Dari premium ke pertamax.. kok sama ya ?, beda kualitas ??

[asudarsono]

Om Wib,
Yah, aku sering beli aditif yg bersihin kerak (carbon clean). Juga pakai yg botol kecil, dimasukinnya pakai pipet, buatan dalam negeri lagi. Lumayan terasa menfaatnya, walau aku gak pakai terus menerus sih. Takut ada efek samping.

Kalau yg buatan Amrik mah, aku ogah pakai. Gak efek banget.

Om Jam, coba ke beres Daihatsu. Minta ECUnya distel. Timing juga distel. Jarang denger Terios ngelitik. Moga2 di kota om beresnya bagus dan bisa nyetelnya. Kalau Nissan biayanya Rp150 rebu, gak tahu kalau Daihatsu.

[Cloud]

Selama pakainya di light load, alias tanpa beban di rpm rendah, sebenarnya hampir sama saja, baru terasa ketika ada beban, atau rpm tinggi. Mau disetel ulang bagaimanapun, kalau rasio kompresi terlalu tinggi (gk sesuai) ya bakal knocking.
sebenarnya bisa diakali dengan memundurkan timing katup intake. tapi efeknya cuma berlaku di low rpm n mid load. kalo rpm tinggi atau high load tetap knocking, malah bisa lebih parah.

[Rebellion]

cara lain, ya jangan di geber2 mobilnya, jangan di beri high engine load, jgn main high rpm.. karna di kondisi lebih rawan terjadi knocking. dan d highrpm jarang terdengar telingan driver... which is klw bawanya nyantai2 aja y relatif aman..

jd imho sulit klw ngarep timing n afr d optimal,tenaga optimal tp pke low oktan..
dan pke high oktan melebihi rekomendasi juga blm tentu berguna.

ya kec bisa niru skyactiv engine DIY beda lg critanya....

soal durabilitas.. di liat lagi knocking n detonasi itu apa. kerak sih lebih akibat timbal, dan kerak juga bisa bikin knocking lebih mudah terjadi karna endapan cabon bisa jadi heat spot.

cmiiw

Wah thank's bro billy infonya sangat berguna saya hampir saja ngelakuin italian tune seperti member2 dsini sering sarankan, klo di inget ngisinya cm pake low oktan / 88, padahal syarat dmobilnya butuh oktan 91 up . memang eco driving n "nyantai driving" lebih baik untuk mesin n lingkungan . Nah kalo masalah karbon n timbal yg numpuk tinggal cari2 postingan bro turboman tentang fuel aditif n cleaner, sm emang tempat yg tepat nyari ilmu otomotif dah . [cmiiw,imho]

[outlaw]

wah trimakasih om billy yg klo dr ulasanya pasti pengalamanya segudang neeh. . .hehe :piss

Sepakat dg optimal kerja mesin y sesuaikan rasio kompresi dg bahan bakarnya,ini paling optimal.

Sedikit cerita pengalaman di mobil saya yg rasio nya 9.5,karena kasus gear timingbeltnya yg aus shg timing jd mundur jg bukaan klep ga normal. . . krg th brp derajatnya,di isi premios tdk ada knocking sedikitpun,mau di gas spontan apa santai ga ada itu knocking,akan tetapi sentakan tenaga jd boyo,apalagi di tanjakan saat ditambah injakan gas,bukanya rpm naik tp malah mesin spt mau stall ga kuat nanjak. . .itu jg ga ada knocking. . .inilah akibat timing terlalu retard,ga knocking tp mesin jd boyo abis. . .stlh normalin timingbelt,tenaga jd kuat tp ya. . . knocking ada lg

[madcat015]

Baru ngecek M8, kompresi mesin 9.7

Ane kasi minum Super, Perta+, atau V-Power...

[ricz]

9.7? Premios dah...

M2 yg kompresinya 10.5 aja dihajar Premios ama gw....

[JESKONENG]

Baru ngecek M8, kompresi mesin 9.7

Ane kasi minum Super, Perta+, atau V-Power...

kalok berdasarkan tabel itu, utk kompresi 9.7 : 1 agar performa maksimal, cocoknya pake Oktan 92 om

[kompresorz]

Baru ngecek M8, kompresi mesin 9.7

Ane kasi minum Super, Perta+, atau V-Power...

itu kompresi spesial...M8 itu versi limited edition..SUPERCAR BMW..

minimal pertamak racing..mnrt buku otomatis rekomendasi.. AVTUR

[Turboman]

Avtur itu bukannya Kerosene aka minyak tanah hi grade ya ?

[artoodetoo]

Mau Premium ataupun Pertamax, yang penting jangan sampai diminum.
Kalaupun terpaksa minum, jangan kentut.

[madcat015]

Kalo mobil hybrid harus di charge dulu...

98 purr-cent charge...

[ricz]

Kalo kucing hybridnya udh siap dicharge, nanti hidup lampu depannya...

[madcat015]

Kalo uda low batt...




Untungnya pake batere rechargeable. Jadi bersahabat utk lingkungan...

LCGC, Lol Cat Green Cat...

[artoodetoo]

Bujug, where are you two come from?

[madcat015]

[wibawana]

Mau Premium ataupun Pertamax, yang penting jangan sampai diminum.
Kalaupun terpaksa minum, jangan kentut.

ah ha ha ha ha ha a

[hitutbaw]

Kalau secara RESMi = statemen honda indonesia apakah crv gen 4 boleh pakai premium?
Om medcet butuh pencerahannya nih..
Sy selama ini selalu isi pertamax..

[asudarsono]

Kalau digoogle banyak posting, tapi jawabannya sama / mirip. Ini salah satunya, untuk CRV : http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_r ... Honda_CR-V

[madcat015]

Untuk CRV 2.0 disarankan RON min 90, untuk CRV 2.4 min ron 88...

Mesin 2.0 kompresinya lebih tinggi drpd yg 2.4

Cmiiw

[ilhami]

kasusnya sama dengan avanza vs innova
innova cukup pertamax, avanza pertamax plus

[billyd1773dz]

Kalau digoogle banyak posting, tapi jawabannya sama / mirip. Ini salah satunya, untuk CRV : http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_r ... Honda_CR-V

di amrik beda loh standar octane ratingnya.. octane 87 di sana bukan ron88 di indo.

United States: in the US octane rating is displayed in AKI. In the Rocky Mountain (high elevation) states, 85 AKI (90 RON) is the minimum octane, and 91 AKI (95 RON) is the maximum octane available in fuel[citation needed]. The reason for this is that in higher-elevation areas, a typical naturally aspirated engine draws in less air mass per cycle because of the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to less fuel and reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock. It is safe to fill a carbureted car that normally takes 87 AKI fuel at sea level with 85 AKI fuel in the mountains, but at sea level the fuel may cause damage to the engine. A disadvantage to this strategy is that most turbocharged vehicles are unable to produce full power, even when using the "premium" 91 AKI fuel. In some east coast states, up to 94 AKI (98 RON) is available.[32] As of January, 2011, over 40 states and a total of over 2500 stations offer ethanol-based E-85 fuel with 105 AKI.[33] Often, filling stations near US racing tracks will offer higher octane levels such as 100 AKI[citation needed].

jeep JK tulisannya regular fuel 87 octane ......... tp bukan ron88 a.k.a premium.. tp ron 90-92an setara pertamax.......

[asudarsono]

Ya ya, banyak yg membingungkan khan?

[ilhami]

kalau sehari-hari pakai nya di grasberg papua sepertinya aman pakai premium oktan 88

[JESKONENG]

Kalau digoogle banyak posting, tapi jawabannya sama / mirip. Ini salah satunya, untuk CRV : http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_r ... Honda_CR-V

di amrik beda loh standar octane ratingnya.. octane 87 di sana bukan ron88 di indo.

United States: in the US octane rating is displayed in AKI. In the Rocky Mountain (high elevation) states, 85 AKI (90 RON) is the minimum octane, and 91 AKI (95 RON) is the maximum octane available in fuel[citation needed]. The reason for this is that in higher-elevation areas, a typical naturally aspirated engine draws in less air mass per cycle because of the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to less fuel and reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock. It is safe to fill a carbureted car that normally takes 87 AKI fuel at sea level with 85 AKI fuel in the mountains, but at sea level the fuel may cause damage to the engine. A disadvantage to this strategy is that most turbocharged vehicles are unable to produce full power, even when using the "premium" 91 AKI fuel. In some east coast states, up to 94 AKI (98 RON) is available.[32] As of January, 2011, over 40 states and a total of over 2500 stations offer ethanol-based E-85 fuel with 105 AKI.[33] Often, filling stations near US racing tracks will offer higher octane levels such as 100 AKI[citation needed].

jeep JK tulisannya regular fuel 87 octane ......... tp bukan ron88 a.k.a premium.. tp ron 90-92an setara pertamax.......

Yg dimaksud AKI adalah Anti Knocking Index yaitu angka RON + MON lalu dibagi dua ...

[VanzMatic]

Kalau digoogle banyak posting, tapi jawabannya sama / mirip. Ini salah satunya, untuk CRV : http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_r ... Honda_CR-V

di amrik beda loh standar octane ratingnya.. octane 87 di sana bukan ron88 di indo.

United States: in the US octane rating is displayed in AKI. In the Rocky Mountain (high elevation) states, 85 AKI (90 RON) is the minimum octane, and 91 AKI (95 RON) is the maximum octane available in fuel[citation needed]. The reason for this is that in higher-elevation areas, a typical naturally aspirated engine draws in less air mass per cycle because of the reduced density of the atmosphere. This directly translates to less fuel and reduced absolute compression in the cylinder, therefore deterring knock. It is safe to fill a carbureted car that normally takes 87 AKI fuel at sea level with 85 AKI fuel in the mountains, but at sea level the fuel may cause damage to the engine. A disadvantage to this strategy is that most turbocharged vehicles are unable to produce full power, even when using the "premium" 91 AKI fuel. In some east coast states, up to 94 AKI (98 RON) is available.[32] As of January, 2011, over 40 states and a total of over 2500 stations offer ethanol-based E-85 fuel with 105 AKI.[33] Often, filling stations near US racing tracks will offer higher octane levels such as 100 AKI[citation needed].

jeep JK tulisannya regular fuel 87 octane ......... tp bukan ron88 a.k.a premium.. tp ron 90-92an setara pertamax.......

Yg dimaksud AKI adalah Anti Knocking Index yaitu angka RON + MON lalu dibagi dua ...

Tepat.

Sudah straightly stated as AKI.