Tune Up Semi Sport

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wah ga juga bro... buka tutup klep, yang menyebabkan efisiensi volumetrik bisa menyebabkan kompresi naik..
Kalo yang dibrosur2 kan kompresi secara hitungan...
kenyataan pasti kurang dari segitu...
makanya kadang2 10:1 SOHC bisa minum premium...

Tapi emang sih PnP ga membuat yang tadinya premium jadi minum pertamax...
Kan PnP memperbaiki efisiensi volumetrik mendekati yang hitung2an...
Kalo tadinya 9:1 ya masih bisa premium, kecuali kompresinya lebih..
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namanya pnp tuh menghaluskan kulit jeruk... bukan memapas

kalo klep udah dipapas dibentuk sudutnya itu udah 3 angle ato 5 angle kayanya sih

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kalo kata poeticmind sih digedein juga sesuai itungan abis kulit jeruknya ilang...
nah kalo 3 angle 5 angle tuh apa ya?
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satyr wrote:namanya pnp tuh menghaluskan kulit jeruk... bukan memapas

kalo klep udah dipapas dibentuk sudutnya itu udah 3 angle ato 5 angle kayanya sih

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ealah... kalo elo dah muncul mulai deh ngeracun... :D
buset lu 5angle... dibikin berlian sekalian... hahaha ! sori oot..
3 aja ah, cukup! :)
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Shaqilla wrote:bro.. denger2 juga kalo udah PnP ndak bisa pake premium yah?? minimal pertamax gituh.. kan perubahan sudut2 bisa ngaruh ke kompresi?? trus kalo tanpa upgrade komponen I/H/E + piggy bisa maksimal yah PnPnya??
hehehe kompresi tetep2 aja, bro...
wah, ga jelas maksudnya PnP bisa maksimal tanpa upgrade IHE...? atau maksud bro setelah PnP bisa maksimal tanpa upgrade IHE? kalo itu, saya jawab tidak... hanya mesin bro lebih enak aja jadi enteng, irit(tergantung kaki), dll.
maksimal itu sampe brp? tergantung bro mau sampe segimana performance nya... tentu ada batasnya sesuai kemampuan mesin.

secara umum utk mobil2 saat ini, gue saranin pertamax... meskipun pabrikan menyarankan premium cukup...karena bbm di setiap spbu tidak semuanya murni... (oplosan). Dari pertamina memang murni, sampe spbu siapa yg tau... gitu bro...

coba baca2 di sebelah ttg PnP, penjelasan nya lebih enak... kalo gue sih teori doang!! hahahaha! secara mobil masih standar cupu abis...! :)
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bro..pertanyaan nich...kalo PnP salah prosedur..akan menyebabkan mesin gimana?hehehe
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seperti salah asah / ukuran lubang2 tidak seragam waktu porting gitu? wah ganti head deh..
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salah PnP? yaaa tenaga jadi lebih boyo dari standar... :P
ngemposss, boros... dst.

setau gue, belom pernah ada yg gagal PnP... kecuali bengkelnya (sori) blo'on... ga tau juga.
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btw, suhu2 SM pada kemana ya?

yang ginian gue mana ngerti... ilmu pas2an gini... hehe
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GTR wrote:seperti salah asah / ukuran lubang2 tidak seragam waktu porting gitu? wah ganti head deh..
waduh dimana tuh bengkelnya bro? hehehe rada impossible, like I said... kalo bengkel ga bisa PnP ga mungkin berani utk ngerjain... :)
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Tp sulit deteksinya, krn kalo udah PnP, biasanya user hanya pakai mata & kelihatannya mengkilat semua permukaanya.
nah utk ini hrs pakai alat ukur, sangat jarang kita ukur keakuratan satupersatu keseluruhan semua lubang nya apalagi keseragaman membentuk design saluran yg sela2 bagian dalam.
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ganti header aja dulu, sekalian resonantor n mufflernya... trus ganti air filter.. + soft tuning 125 detik ala PPT.. langsung berasa dan risikonya lebih kecil dari kerusakan2 daleman mesin...
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PnP lebih efektif sih sblm tahap add-on parts. cuma aja penasaran bgm alat ukurnya bentuk & size semua 8 lubang intake nya seragam juga semua 8 lubang exhaust nya.
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saya jadi agak ngeri kalo mo PnP abis membaca postingan di atas..hehehe
bro..bknnya skg pabrikan kebykan uda melakukan micro polishing sblm itu mesin di fit?
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ngga semua. mesin seri hi-performance spt seri AMG merc dan seri Type-R honda sudah hand-PnP standar pabrik, nah kalo ini hampir pasti seragam karena pasti ada SOP pabrikan yg benar2 ketat.
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santai aja... selama ini yg sudah PnP tidak ada masalah... 90% mengatakan nyaman2 saja... yg 10% kena tipu bengkel ga jelas... tapi masih bisa dibenerin.

so, why not?
everything polesan pabrik ga selamanya maksimal. :)
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GTR wrote:PnP lebih efektif sih sblm tahap add-on parts. cuma aja penasaran bgm alat ukurnya bentuk & size semua 8 lubang intake nya seragam juga semua 8 lubang exhaust nya.
alat ukurnya namanya Air Flow Bench...
wait ajah deh... klo sempet seh.. see :mrgreen:
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kira2 begini lah... tapi ada juga bengkel yg pake feeling dewa...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_flow_bench

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Wew ribet juga ya.. Pantesan mahalll...
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tentu setelah PnP hasilnya akan lebih baik drpd standar.
kalo pabrikan maybe pakai alat ukur tsb, or maybe rumah modifikasi luar spt AMG Mugen Spoon racingdynamics saleen dsb.
kalo disini, maybe feeling blm tentu pakai alat, ini yg membuat keraguan, tapi semoga rumah modifikasi disini makin improve agar hasil PnP tentu makin baik(efektif) lagi, gitu.
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PnP umumnya aman2 saja... karena bengkel akan cek dan ricek lagi setelahnya. jika masih dirasa kurang optimal, akan dicari permasalahan nya.
itu mengapa waktu pengerjaan tidak bisa cepat, dan ada waiting list.

dan, lucunya... saya mempunyai bengkel langganan kecil, dia biasa membongkar angkot. secara tidak sengaja, karena kebetulan saya servis 1/2 mesin, dia melakukan PnP. tanpa sadar karena mereka otodidak... hasilnya sangat memuaskan!
sewaktu saya tanya, apa saja yg mereka kerjakan... mereka hanya bilang ini dan itu, mereka tidak sadar telah melakukan PnP dengan feeling dan alat seadanya pada kijang super saya.

amazing, hasilnya selama bertahun2 tidak ada masalah... itu makanya, saya bilang alat tidak menjamin apa2 dibanding keahlian montir.
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GTR wrote:tentu setelah PnP hasilnya akan lebih baik drpd standar.
kalo pabrikan maybe pakai alat ukur tsb, or maybe rumah modifikasi luar spt AMG Mugen Spoon racingdynamics saleen dsb.
kalo disini, maybe feeling blm tentu pakai alat, ini yg membuat keraguan, tapi semoga rumah modifikasi disini makin improve agar hasil PnP tentu makin baik(efektif) lagi, gitu.
:mrgreen: rumah modif di sidoarjo pun dah punya alat air flow bench ini... klo mo PnP pasti d tanya mo skalian flow bench / gak... :D
wait ajah deh... klo sempet seh.. see :mrgreen:
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tonie wrote:
GTR wrote:tentu setelah PnP hasilnya akan lebih baik drpd standar.
kalo pabrikan maybe pakai alat ukur tsb, or maybe rumah modifikasi luar spt AMG Mugen Spoon racingdynamics saleen dsb.
kalo disini, maybe feeling blm tentu pakai alat, ini yg membuat keraguan, tapi semoga rumah modifikasi disini makin improve agar hasil PnP tentu makin baik(efektif) lagi, gitu.
:mrgreen: rumah modif di sidoarjo pun dah punya alat air flow bench ini... klo mo PnP pasti d tanya mo skalian flow bench / gak... :D
betul, saat ini sudah umum... tidak spt dulu. saya juga no clue, istilah PnP itu kapan mulai beken ya... :)
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keq nya kalo di bengkel resmi turun setengah mesin aza uda termasuk PnP kan?ada prosedur skir ulang klep nya...pembersihan karbon trus di ganti seal2nya..tuning ulang..itu termasuk ga bang?hehehe