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Brand Datsun akan di off, semoga aftersales ngak ikut ke cut juga
Exclusive: Datsun brand set to go as Nissan rolls back Ghosn's expansionist strategy - sources

YOKOHAMA, Japan (Reuters) - Nissan Motor Co Ltd is likely to axe its Datsun brand, drop some unprofitable products and close a number of assembly lines worldwide as it seeks to boost profits by getting smaller, two company sources with direct knowledge of the matter said.

Known internally as the “performance recovery plan”, the proposed steps mark a sharp break with Nissan’s strategy under ousted leader Carlos Ghosn, who pursued ambitious vehicle sales targets in the United States and other major markets.

The plan is the Yokohama-based automaker’s latest attempt to pull itself out of crisis after Ghosn was arrested for financial misconduct - charges he denies. The scandal has further strained an already dysfunctional alliance with Renault SA and thrown Nissan into disarray as it finds itself on course to book its lowest operating profit in 11 years.

The sources said Nissan will likely kill loss-making variants for the Titan full-size pickup. Unprofitable variants include the single-cab and diesel versions.

A planned shuttering of underutilized production lines will most probably hit plants in emerging markets building Datsun and other small cars hardest, they added.

“We need to chart a recovery but the rot goes deep,” one of the sources said of the many problems facing Nissan.

The second source said all markets with factories except China were being looked at for possible reductions in production capacity. That source also said, however, that there were no plans to close an entire plant or withdraw completely from any country.

In the United States, one of Nissan’s biggest markets, the plan calls for fresh efforts to weed out the practice of buying market share by selling vehicles to rental car and other fleet operators at heavy discounts - a practice which destroyed profitability and undermined Nissan’s brand image.

“We’re trying to clean up what had happened in the past,” one of the sources said, adding that under Ghosn, Nissan sought to meet sales objectives at any cost, including “practically giving away cars” to fleet customers.

A team led by Jun Seki, a senior vice president and incoming vice chief operating officer, is expected to unveil the wide-ranging plan this month though some aspects are still being finalised, said the sources, who were not authorized to speak to media and declined to be identified.

Nissan declined to comment.

Seki is part of a new management team that will see Makoto Uchida, Nissan’s head of China operations, take the helm - an appointment that is expected to take effect by Jan. 1.

The new steps follow plans unveiled in July to cut headcount by 12,500 globally by early 2023 and which also flagged cuts to production capacity. At the time, then-CEO Hiroto Saikawa said 14 facilities would be affected.

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Overall, the plan’s aim is to free up resources to focus more on the United States and China, the sources said.

To that end it will roll back an aggressive expansionist strategy Ghosn set in motion under a five-year plan called Power 88 which aimed to raise profit margins and global market share to 8 percent by fiscal 2016 - goals which were never achieved.

The Datsun brand - revived for emerging markets under Ghosn after being phased out in the 1980s - will likely bear the brunt of the restructuring. The models are manufactured in Indonesia, India and Russia.

The sources said problems emerged after Nissan began deploying the no-frills cars in 2014 in small markets such as Indonesia, India, Russia and South Africa where it also sells vehicles under its mainstay Nissan brand.

In Indonesia, for example, after a relatively good start, Datsun cars soon began eating into Nissan sales.

“We ended up pushing two mainstream brands in a market where you have a one or two percent market share. You cannot do that,” one of the sources said, adding that there had been similar outcomes in India, South Africa and Russia.

In its bigger markets, a steady supply of new or significantly redesigned models – starting with the redesigned Altima which was launched in the United States late last year – is expected to help Nissan reset the way it prices its vehicles.

“Still, it takes about a year to get any sort of tangible results,” one of the sources said, adding that until then the Japanese automaker would continue to see sales by volume fall in the U.S. market.
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Imagenya keburu jelek ni Datsun, gara2 strategi Nissan yang malas kasih penyegaran buat Datsun
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produknya memang kurang laku sih...terutama setelah duo calsig meluncur
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Gimana ya, saya bingung nissan.
Mobilnya enak, tapi atpmnya ogah"an buat berinovasi. Inovasipun setengah2, padahal udh lumayan punya kekuatan image. Akhirnya konsumen bosen & beralih ke merk sebelah.
Sama kaya datsun. Dulu awal2 kemunculannya sempet booming. Eh tapi kualitasnya so-so, kelengkapan juga terlalu alakadarnya. Ga mau ngeluarin varian matic. Perlahan hypenya mulai hilang, apalagi semenjak ada duo calsig.
Facelift terakhir, kelengkapannya sudah jauh meningkat. Tapi rasanya sudah agak terlambat buat berbenah. Sayang sekali si datsun ini. Padahal dia potensial utk jadi merk yg "terpandang" dengan bayang2 nissan
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Pas awal2 keluar padahal mayan laku lho walaupun produknya begitu. Kalo tanggung2 ya ga bakal survive sih, ini faceliftnya aja baru 2018 kmaren dan kursi 2nd row masih model bangku.
Trus malah sosoan pasang2 vsc, orang konsumen harga segitu ya maunya apa sih, kan cm cari keren+irit+murah+nyaman, udah..

Itu juga batu makam sama, keluarin ladder frame tp ya gitu aja ga ada wow nya.
Paling yang aga all out ya mpv roti tawarnya sm suv monokoknya yg cbu japan itu.
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memang bermasalah dari HQ ya. makin kacau nih aliansi. yg rugi mitsu [emo-yesno] :emo-big_love: lagi bagus2nya dapet momentum di certain market, join Nissan malah berantakan itu Nissan [emo-yesno]

ghosn somehow bener, bikin 2nd brand untuk low price/lowest tier passenger market. pake nama datsun. daripada pake brand baru lagi. tapi malah backfire, udah produknya keliatan banget cheapo, eh market yg dituju ternyata dapat perlawanan juga misal di Indo ketemunya astra di LCGC. ketambahan itu HQ kacau balau, ya mendingan buang datsun saja, cut loss daripada dipelihara tanpa ada kelanjutan produk baru.
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sorry to say buat user ya tapi menurut gue mobilnya di indo adalah mobil terjelek yang pernah g naiki (dr taksol)..sangat ga nyaman dan ga enak..model is a big no, ride quality as passenger aja horror apalagi drivingnya...gue kalo naek taksol begitu gue liat mobilnya ini langsung gue cancel...no offence for user its just personal opinion better jauh calsig even semacam agay masih better walopun ga jauh2 banget...mungkin dari segi sales juga ketinggalan jauh mana bengkel susah modal murah doank ga cukup...sebelah bisa kasih murah dan mudah...so anda pilih murah doank atau murah dan mudah
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kl hilang yang kasihan pembeli2nya yg rata2 segmen LCGC DP minim, angsuran panjang, mau dijual jd sakit kelak ( ya mirip nasib yg pakai proton )
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jadi keinget jaman baru pertama kali launching, liat di PRJ...
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Iya, sayang sih R&D nya Datsun kyk jalan ditempat, padahal Renault masih cukup sukses develop mobil yg base nya datsun seperti Kwid, malah di CDM ada versi full elektriknya, dan direbadge mungkin di-downspec lagi oleh dongfeng (DFSK), saya lupa tipenya apa
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Datsun itu salah strategi. Karena Nissan mengkhususkan Datsun untuk mobil murah, apalagi waktu Datsun Go pertama keluar keliatan kualitasnya gimana, sehingga benak konsumen jadinya mikir Datsun=murahan. Sama kayak daihatsu suzuki kesannya mobil murah. Mau dilengkapi teknologi kayak apapun, di benak konsumen Datsun itu mobil irit murah dengan safety ala kadarnya. Untuk keluarga kecil yang ingin mobil pertama yang terjangkau. Kalo keluarga pemghasilan menengah ke atas ya ogah beli Datsun.

Sehingga ketika toyota merebrand xenia jadi avanza, sigra jadi calya, ayla jadi agya, kesannya nih mobil jadi naik pangkat ke lv menengah, karena toyota itu kesannya pembuat mobil kelas menengah.

Coba kalo nissan merebrand datsun jadi nissan, pasti varian nissannya yg dicari orang.
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Harusnya strateginya selain lcgc nissan masukin segmen mobil niaga di kasih brand datsun, misal pikap saingan carry/granmax, evalia blind van atau dcab base model kayak frontier lama gitu. Soalnya tata n dfsk aja bisa laku loh. Cuman usul sotoy ane...
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Seberapa murahan sih brand image datsun? Cuman ngebayangin lagi megang konci datsun....rasanya mending dimasukin kantong dalem2 biar logonya ga keliatan n jgn sekali2 dipamerin di atas meja....wkwkwk
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marama wrote:kl hilang yang kasihan pembeli2nya yg rata2 segmen LCGC DP minim, angsuran panjang, mau dijual jd sakit kelak ( ya mirip nasib yg pakai proton )
Penjajahan ekonomi masyarakat model baru mungkin??
dany_pos wrote:Seberapa murahan sih brand image datsun? Cuman ngebayangin lagi megang konci datsun....rasanya mending dimasukin kantong dalem2 biar logonya ga keliatan n jgn sekali2 dipamerin di atas meja....wkwkwk
Nyesek bgt sadis bang..
Yak kembali lagi bagaimanapun datsun tetaplah mobil. Semoga dibalik kesederhanaan unitnya. Jd memudahkan bengkel non beres untuk memperbaiki bahkan mengakali dengan opsi part merk lain.
Bagaimanapun tujuan beli mobil dasarnya adalah berangkat dari titik A dan sampai ke titik B. Gengsi ga dibawa mati euyy..
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dany_pos wrote: 29 Oct 2019, 18:16 Seberapa murahan sih brand image datsun? Cuman ngebayangin lagi megang konci datsun....rasanya mending dimasukin kantong dalem2 biar logonya ga keliatan n jgn sekali2 dipamerin di atas meja....wkwkwk
Ga gitu jg kali....tergantung masing2 orang lha.
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Shonen wrote: 29 Oct 2019, 13:33 sorry to say buat user ya tapi menurut gue mobilnya di indo adalah mobil terjelek yang pernah g naiki (dr taksol)..sangat ga nyaman dan ga enak..model is a big no, ride quality as passenger aja horror apalagi drivingnya...gue kalo naek taksol begitu gue liat mobilnya ini langsung gue cancel...no offence for user its just personal opinion better jauh calsig even semacam agay masih better walopun ga jauh2 banget...mungkin dari segi sales juga ketinggalan jauh mana bengkel susah modal murah doank ga cukup...sebelah bisa kasih murah dan mudah...so anda pilih murah doank atau murah dan mudah
kalau yg awal memang parah, tapi sejak facelift jadi jauh lebih baik. setidaknya mendekati duo kaleng junior panjang.
ya kesalahan awal datsun itu kelewatan cheapo. bahkan sebenernya sampe sekarang, tapi well at least bisa kasih warna dikit lagi di dunia LCGC, daripada daitoyo melulu.
silentIm2 wrote: 29 Oct 2019, 16:56 Datsun itu salah strategi. Karena Nissan mengkhususkan Datsun untuk mobil murah, apalagi waktu Datsun Go pertama keluar keliatan kualitasnya gimana, sehingga benak konsumen jadinya mikir Datsun=murahan. Sama kayak daihatsu suzuki kesannya mobil murah. Mau dilengkapi teknologi kayak apapun, di benak konsumen Datsun itu mobil irit murah dengan safety ala kadarnya. Untuk keluarga kecil yang ingin mobil pertama yang terjangkau. Kalo keluarga pemghasilan menengah ke atas ya ogah beli Datsun.

Sehingga ketika toyota merebrand xenia jadi avanza, sigra jadi calya, ayla jadi agya, kesannya nih mobil jadi naik pangkat ke lv menengah, karena toyota itu kesannya pembuat mobil kelas menengah.

Coba kalo nissan merebrand datsun jadi nissan, pasti varian nissannya yg dicari orang.
memang tujuan datsun awalnya buat brand murmer. semacam 2nd tier brand nissan, mirip Dai di tangan yoyota. masalahnya yang dijual itu kelewatan cheaponya.

sedangkan daitoyo karena jadi pengikut, jadi udah tau duluan, mau menang dimana, apalagi memang sudah penguasa incumbent, jadi udah megang data duluan. ya jelas menang, kalau dibalik saya rasa duo kaleng junior pun bisa jadi sama cheaponya. dan strategi daitoyo mirip ahond suzuki, masih kasi emblem tulisan nama ahond atau daioyo jadi ada efek ke yg awam kalau ini masih merek ahond atau daitoyo.

ya HQ kacau balau gitu, ga heran jualannya ga jelas, kaya sekarang. seperti yg penting jualan, untung ASS masih lancar.
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nissan mengecewakan...
jadi males lirik produk nissan...
mending Toyota aja
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ya baiknya memang disetop saja. gak jelas arah mereknya mau kemana. tiap pameran yang dipajang selalu Go modifan.

kalopun konsep, yah basicnya Go diapain lagi. Masih ada bau-baunya DatGo.

Daihatsu saja masih lebih jelas tiap pameran pajang mobil konsep (biarpun gak dijual juga).

Dilematis sih mau hajar kelas 200an malah simalakama kena merk Nissan nya. Masalahnya juga nggak ada usaha kek bikin prodak kembar macem daitoyo biar ngangkat imej nya Datsun.

Coba itu March dan Go dibuat mobil kembar mungkin keangkat dikit imej murahannya Datsun. Daitoyo kan selalu seperti itu biarpun Daihatsu versi murahnya tapi punya kembaran di toyota. Hanya beda asesoris dan spek dikit saja. jd yang cari pure functional bisa pilih yang murah.

atau hajar trio kembar Livina cap Datsun - Livina cap Nissan - Xpander. :mky_02:

Brand perception itu penting dan Datsun sukses bunuh diri dengan imej "murahan" nya. imej murahan, lambat update product (dari 2014 baru 2018 keluar metik dan ganti dasbor). 4 taun baru dapet major update ye kali matek lah.
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Saya termasuk yg dulu senang Datsun akan hidup lagi di Indo.

Saya ingatnya persepsi Datsunitu mobil kuat, kenceng spt

Datsun pick up angkut sayur kol di Brastagi

Datsu SSS tetangga saya

Datsun Kotak milik kawan kantor yg suka sy tumpangi

ternyata Datsun zaman now meleset dr persepsi saya.

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ChZ wrote: 30 Oct 2019, 12:20 Dilematis sih mau hajar kelas 200an malah simalakama kena merk Nissan nya. Masalahnya juga nggak ada usaha kek bikin prodak kembar macem daitoyo biar ngangkat imej nya Datsun.

Coba itu March dan Go dibuat mobil kembar mungkin keangkat dikit imej murahannya Datsun. Daitoyo kan selalu seperti itu biarpun Daihatsu versi murahnya tapi punya kembaran di toyota. Hanya beda asesoris dan spek dikit saja. jd yang cari pure functional bisa pilih yang murah.
aslinya kan kembaran, makanya diluar cheapo dipakenya enak. hanya siapa juga yg mau tahu, pas dikasi interior dan build quality kaya gitu.

atau hajar trio kembar Livina cap Datsun - Livina cap Nissan - Xpander. :mky_02:

Brand perception itu penting dan Datsun sukses bunuh diri dengan imej "murahan" nya. imej murahan, lambat update product (dari 2014 baru 2018 keluar metik dan ganti dasbor). 4 taun baru dapet major update ye kali matek lah.
ya HQ saja begitu, gimana kebawahnya, saya rasa nissan datsun indo auto pilot doang. tapi hebatnya masih rajin buka Dealer dan ASS. mungkin habisin target dealer saja kali ya, karena dananya ada. apalagi bikin kembaran 3 merek gitu.
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Ini mah karna nissan Jepun udah dapetin Triple diamond :mrgreen:

Datsun dibiarkan mati pelan2 dan skrg tiba waktuna disniper sendiri oleh nissan dgn alasan efisiensi wkwkwkwk

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dalam kasus ini, cmiiw, yg kasian indomobil-kah? sebagai pemasar kena apes krn keputusan yg dibuat oleh maker-nya..
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pcx wrote: 30 Oct 2019, 14:11 Ini mah karna nissan Jepun udah dapetin Triple diamond :mrgreen:

Datsun dibiarkan mati pelan2 dan skrg tiba waktuna disniper sendiri oleh nissan dgn alasan efisiensi wkwkwkwk

Nissan :snipersmile: datsun
Wkakakakak sepikiran nih sm ane :mky_07:

Tp jujur, ane ngeliat Datsun tuh rasanya gmn ya? Dibanding duo Calsig, better mereka kmn2 soalnya udh ngerasain jd penumpang dr 3 mobil itu.

Ada tetangga pedagang mobkas, blng kalo beli mobil Datsun Go bisa seenak udel nawar harga yg dia mau yg intinya effortless buat dptinnya, kalo lainnya hrs pandai nego. Separah itukah? :big_dunno:
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gak heran kalo bakal di suntik mati, telat upgrade dan imagenya udah terlanjur jelek dimata org Indo. versi awalnya emg salah satu worst car menurut saya, bq lebih jelek daripada calsig, serta gak ada maticnya. sama gila aja 4 tahun baru keluarin versi matik sm ganti dasbor, ya udh keburu tewas dihajar calsig
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