Kalo beli mbl, sukanya mbl mesin bensin ato diesel?

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Mbl bensin atau diesel?

Bensin, alasannya...
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Diesel, alasannya...
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Re: Kalo beli mbl, sukanya mbl mesin bensin ato diesel?

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htannis wrote:
WongZo wrote:
imingwahyudi wrote:wow :big_chicken:

6 detik cukup bikin nonik teteriakan di tol ni :mky_03:
Apalagi klw diupgrade ke 400HP 800NM yh :e-think:
udah gak masuk diakal lagi, mau ke 400HP, perlu dana kira2 50 juta om :mky_01: kecuali kalau nambah nos doang yah 7 jt-an
Buset 50jt, tpi klw cmn nambah NOS kta ane gaterlalu guna bwt jalan di info, kecuali om suka ikut balap liar :big_peace: .
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saya gak suka balap liar om, wong harian WMI saya matiin, over banget powernya, boost pun saya set di 1.8 bar doang. Ini persiapa drag race sentul bulan agustus, mau ngejer 402m nya 14 flat detik tanpa NOS. rekor 2KD D4D 280HP + NOS 100HP itu 14.1 detik dan rekor 2KD 310HP+WMI tanpa Nos 14.9 detik :mky_01:
Oh yah 14 detik itu dulu 2kd itu imbang sama subaru wrx, yg pasti subaru wrx nya dah di modif juga pastinya kl ikut drag race sentul
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
well it is, but who cares
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htannis wrote:saya gak suka balap liar om, wong harian WMI saya matiin, over banget powernya, boost pun saya set di 1.8 bar doang. Ini persiapa drag race sentul bulan agustus, mau ngejer 402m nya 14 flat detik tanpa NOS. rekor 2KD D4D 280HP + NOS 100HP itu 14.1 detik dan rekor 2KD 310HP+WMI tanpa Nos 14.9 detik :mky_01:
Oh yah 14 detik itu dulu 2kd itu imbang sama subaru wrx, yg pasti subaru wrx nya dah di modif juga pastinya kl ikut drag race sentul
Wih mw ikutan ngedrag mantap dah, berarti klw om pke NOS bisa tembus <14 detik :big_grin:
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...pake suzuki hayabusa aja bro, kondisi standard tanpa modif apa2 0-400m di bawah 10 detik, tinggal masalah nyali & kemampuan aja :P
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g4ndalf wrote:...pake suzuki hayabusa aja bro, kondisi standard tanpa modif apa2 0-400m di bawah 10 detik, tinggal masalah nyali & kemampuan aja :P
kalau bisa muat 7 orang ++ dan barang banyak sih, ogut beli :big_weee:
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
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Mau bs bawa 7 orang?

Gampang...

Tinggal derek ini aja...

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ricz wrote:Mau bs bawa 7 orang?

Gampang...

Tinggal derek ini aja...

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itu gak nyampe 1 HP tuh, itu 1 MP, 1 man power :big_weee:
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
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htannis wrote:......pake turbo warner boost 2.3 bar.....
Jadi skarang turbocharger D4D om htannnis sudah pake Borg Warner ?
Ngeri kali om.... :drinking:


Oh ya btt, ane suka mesin diesel yang udah ada system geometry turbo coz gampang dinaekin HP and Torque-nya tinggal install piggyback.

Kalo gasoline minimal yg V6/V8 donk.
Apalagi mesin M156 6,208 cc N/A V8. When you rev it, its like firing blast cannons right beside your bedroom window. 8)

So in conclusion, I love both.
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KielConstantine wrote:
htannis wrote:......pake turbo warner boost 2.3 bar.....
Jadi skarang turbocharger D4D om htannnis sudah pake Borg Warner ?
Ngeri kali om.... :drinking:


Oh ya btt, ane suka mesin diesel yang udah ada system geometry turbo coz gampang dinaekin HP and Torque-nya tinggal install piggyback.

Kalo gasoline minimal yg V6/V8 donk.
Apalagi mesin M156 6,208 cc N/A V8. When you rev it, its like firing blast cannons right beside your bedroom window. 8)

So in conclusion, I love both.
Give full respect to all engineers out there! :)
my D4D now have borg warner installed, cam (only the ex part) replacement, Water Methanol injection :mky_01:
STREET RACING IN A 4xx whp/1xxx nm atw in a 3050cc DIESEL MPV IS NOT A CRIME
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htannis wrote:itu gak nyampe 1 HP tuh, itu 1 MP, 1 man power :big_weee:
Kan ceritanya diderek pake Hayabusa, om... :big_weee:
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KielConstantine wrote:-cut-
Apalagi mesin M156 6,208 cc N/A V8. When you rev it, its like firing blast cannons right beside your bedroom window. 8)

So in conclusion, I love both.
Give full respect to all engineers out there! :)
Suka banget sama quote ini... :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02:

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ini engine kalo sdh tdk ada yg std ...

tar pas dibuang tdk ada yg pungut ...ha ha ha
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madcat015 wrote:
KielConstantine wrote:-cut-
Apalagi mesin M156 6,208 cc N/A V8. When you rev it, its like firing blast cannons right beside your bedroom window. 8)

So in conclusion, I love both.
Give full respect to all engineers out there! :)
Suka banget sama quote ini... :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02:

+1 :big_smoking:
Udah pernah denger V8 American Muscle belom ?
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Pernah, om turbo...

Langsung merinding dengar enjin V8 4800cc Ford Mustang SVT warna hitam di tempat temen ane...

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ahahha..modcat apa sih yg gak pernah dengar..v12 aja udah.. :mky_02:

saya skrg senang mesin diesel..torsinya luar biasa..cm msh takut bau knalpotnya aja..bikin sesak..ngeri klo digarasi..
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kalo galant hiu tahun 91 itu v brp ya?
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montirangin wrote:kalo galant hiu tahun 91 itu v brp ya?
Galant Hiu mh baru taun '98 om. Klw yg taun '91 mh yg model eterna kali. Taun '93 ad tuh yg V6 sma yg 4 silinder biasa 2000cc.
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kompresorz wrote:ahahha..modcat apa sih yg gak pernah dengar..v12 aja udah.. :mky_02:

saya skrg senang mesin diesel..torsinya luar biasa..cm msh takut bau knalpotnya aja..bikin sesak..ngeri klo digarasi..
Halo om kompresorz... :mky_02:

Hehehe, cuman kebagian denger aja kok om... V12 paling halus punya Royces, paling sadis punya LP700, dan paling pas suaranya punya F599... *menurut kuping kampungan ane...* :ngacir:


Ane sama kayak bokap ane, om. Masih rada ga ngeh piara diesel lagi. Apalg karakter mesin petrol sudah mendekati mesin diesel... low rev torque dan rentang tenaga begitu lebar...

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madcat015 wrote:
kompresorz wrote:ahahha..modcat apa sih yg gak pernah dengar..v12 aja udah.. :mky_02:

saya skrg senang mesin diesel..torsinya luar biasa..cm msh takut bau knalpotnya aja..bikin sesak..ngeri klo digarasi..
Halo om kompresorz... :mky_02:

Hehehe, cuman kebagian denger aja kok om... V12 paling halus punya Royces, paling sadis punya LP700, dan paling pas suaranya punya F599... *menurut kuping kampungan ane...* :ngacir:


Ane sama kayak bokap ane, om. Masih rada ga ngeh piara diesel lagi. Apalg karakter mesin petrol sudah mendekati mesin diesel... low rev torque dan rentang tenaga begitu lebar...

:mky_01:
aje gile dah...ini sih bukan dengar doang..lgsg pake mobilnya.. :big_biglaugh: ..mungkin w16 aja yg belum.. :e-think:


good info modcat..saya liat spek aja..tp gak tau prakteknya diesel..hehehe jd bensin udah enak ya..mungkin krn pake turbo jg x ya..ah mantap balik lg ke bensin dah..

*pe skrg msh kepikiran 250 diesel...tdnya*
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dulu hobi mobil petrol,tapi sekarang udah ga suka ngebut lagi,cari irit aja BBM mahal jadi pakenya mobil diesel
enaknya diesel VS petrol sama2 manual,biarpun ga ahli kopling,mesin ga mati baik di jalan datar maupun nanjak,jadi ga malu2in kek orang ga bisa nyetir mobil
sempat pake CRV 2.4 2010,throttlenya berasa sama dengan D4D A/T GNKI,cuma beda suspensi doang
jadinya sekarang pake diesel
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madcat015 wrote:
Ane sama kayak bokap ane, om. Masih rada ga ngeh piara diesel lagi. Apalg karakter mesin petrol sudah mendekati mesin diesel... low rev torque dan rentang tenaga begitu lebar...

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Kalau mesin bensin yg karakter Torsi RPM rendah kayak Diesel dengan CC 1400 - 2000 biasanya mesti beli yang standard-nya udah ada Turbo-nya......terutama yang GDI Turbo - mesin2 Petrol modern

Konsekuensi = BBM RON 95....recommended RON 98

Potensi utk naekkin Hp / Torsi scr signifikan ya bisa utk bbrp mobil (gak semua), tapi kit upgrade-nya muahal / muahal banget, karena upgrade mesin bensin harus hati2 sekali

Suka dengan mesin GDI - Turbo ? Ya, saya pribadi suka juga (favorit ane si 1.4 TSI).......tapi bagi saya pribadi mobil tsb bukan utk Daily driving car (terutama utk kondisi Indonesia)

Ibarat atlet angkat berat, tapi kalau sering diajak makan di warteg aja perut bisa sakit / bahkan mungkin bisa masuk UGD.....makannya harus tempat yg bersih banget.....trus kalo kalau disuru angkat berat2 terus2-an juga bisa berisiko sakit.......

Salah 1 contoh :
http://mobil.otomotifnet.com/read/2014/ ... rame-Jebol

Bukan salah mesinnya, ya gak cocok aja dengan std BBM di Indonesia.


Buat daily Driving yg paling enak adalah TurboDiesel CRD, terutama mesin2 yang Heavy Duty based / Mini Truck based" spt 1 dan 2 KD / Isuzu 4JJ / 4JK dan sebangsanya. Dimana sejak awalnya memang mesin2 tsb didisain utk "tahan siksa" / kerja kayak kuli secara terus menerus.

Upgrade Power sangat mudah & biaya start dari Low cost hingga medium cost aja (kecuali kalo dah extreme kayak si htannis)

Biar Power udah naek 2X lipat, tetep bisa "makan warteg" dan gak mudah sakit perut, jika sakit perut, cukup minum obat sedikit dan sembuh lagi

Diajak kerja berat terus2-an juga hayuk ajah, gak mudah jatuh sakit.


Jadi biarpun sama2 memberikan "Driving pleasure" yang baik, mesin Diesel CRD yg truck based lebih reliable / convenient / hemat di kantong, walau dgn Trade Off = getaran dan suara.........wkwkkwkwkwkwkw

*Sisi pandang pribadi ajah*

*Bukan seles Diesel*

*Udah pernah TD VW 1.4 TSI / BMW twin Power T / MB CGI / Audi TFSI engine / Pug EP 16 CDT engine / Proton 1.6 T*
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O ya

Kalau mau lihat mobil2 bensin Turbo yg di modif extreme2 konon bisa ke bengkel Eworx (di Jkt)

Itu maenannya mesin 2JZ-GTE / RB 26 DETT / mesin Subaru / 4B11 T/C dll

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saya tidak vote karna saya suka keduanya...
saya pilih mesin bensin jika mobil luxury, mengutamakan kenyamanan, sedan atau weekend car.
alasannya menurut apa yang sudah pernah saya alami, bagaimanapun mobil bensin tetep lebih nyaman dari mesin diesel. mau sehalus apapun mesin diesel itu. walau beberapa mesin diesel seperti VW, BmW dan Merc sangat menakjubkan soal kehalusan. tapi tetep gak bisa mengungguli keluarga bensin mereka.

pilih mesin diesel jika mobil oprasional, mengutamakan torsi dengan biaya hemat, dan buat masuk medan berat.
alasannya so pasti mesin diesel lebih irit bahan bakar, perawatan murah (kelas toyota innova, fortuner) dan tenaganya lebih besar torsi untuk kelas cc rendah. dan soal daya tahan juga bagus untuk medan berat (tb misalnya).

kesimpulannya, saya suka keduanya sesuai peruntukannya.

Note :
jika hanya boleh punya 1 mobil saja, maka, saya ambil diesel sekarang, dan ambil bensin jika sudah tua nanti.
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Ane lebih prefer ke bensin

belom terbiasa pake mobil diesel sih :big_biglaugh:
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