milih yamaha scorpio atau honda tiger ?

Segala motor tipe sport (GL, CBR, Tiger, dll).

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akhirnya kemaren saya nyobain make fxr..
enak yah handlingnya, rasanya tuh antara setang trus ngepasnnya paha sama delta boxnya pas, trus pas nikung juga lebih enak daripada tiger, tp sayang.... mesinnya nanggung.. klo aja 250 cc ato skalian 400cc..

pengen nyobain bandit400.. ada yg udah make?
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Dulu pas ada tarikan ada tiger korekan ama FXR pertama sih menang tigernya,trus kali kedua FXR bisa menang tuh.Kalo start dr diam,angkatan startnya penting banget.
Kalo ama Satria FXR sama Tiger sih lewat.Rumus 2 tak:4tak kan 1:1,5.Jd kalo 2t 100cc, powernya sebanding dng 4t 150cc.Tapi seiring perkembangan jaman,dng adany teknologi baru smcm DOHC,TSFC,TSCC,injeksi dsb. Perbandingannya bisa menipis.
Ada gosip kalo "geng ijo" mau ngeluarin produk baru.Kawasaki ZZR250,4 cyl,250cc.! :lol: :o :(
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wah kawasaki nya pasti ditunggu banget :)
btw.. emang mesin yg udah tua kaya tiger, thunder masih bisa nge gigit yah klo udah dikorek..?
btw yg masih bisa dipercaya untuk cepat sih raider 150, udah mah bobot ringan, 150 cc twin cam lagi.. ck ck..
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ZZR-250 ??? Itu bukannya motor lama?? Atau memang thailand bikin motor baru lagi ??? Ada yg. punya foto-nya ???
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kemungkinan sih zzr mo masuk, orang kawasainya udah nyoba, cuman dengan teknologi yg segitu canggih apa nggak kemahalan tuh.
Yang ada kalo mo disesuaikan sama pasar lokal kejadiannya down spek, sayang kan ....
Jadi itu sebabnya kawasaki indonesia masih blom mau keluarin nih motor, masa' sih mo dijual 40 juta, sapa yg beli atuh .....
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Kalo dilihat dr pasarnya mungkin sih ada.Lihat sj kawasaki ninja rr.Nyatanya laris juga.Ini membuktikan banyak juga pecinta motor seperti itu.Palingan nambah 10jt dah dapat yg baru.

Spesifikasinya:
Displacement
248 cc

Bore & Stroke
62.0 x 41.2 mm

Compression Ratio
12.4:1

Carburettor
Keihin CVKD 30 x 2

Rake Angle
26.5 degrees

Front Wheel Travel
125 mm

Rear Wheel Travel
110 mm

Front Tyre Size
100/80-17

Rear Tyre Size
140/70-17

Wheelbase
1,405 mm

Fuel Tank Capacity
18 litres

Seat Height
760 mm

Dry Weight
146 kg

Warranty
24 months

RRP $8,490
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ooo... kalo yg. ini sih sebenarnya versi lawas banget, cuman di release baru.
Kirain kawasaki thailand bikin model baru lagi... :)
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harga 40 juta itu baru harga kisaran di luar lho, kalo masuk sini bisa hampir 2 kali lipat, liat aja harga rr di thai kalo dirupiahin ngak sampe 20 an, cuman disini dilepas 29 juta.
dan yg pasti motor di indo kiblatnya kan ke thai, nih motor di thai nggak populer, jadi kayaknya dalam mimpi aja deh, kemungkinan besar kawasaki mungkin masukin (nggak mungkin buat) bukan type zzrnya cuman yg 2 silinder 250 cc (sori typenya nggak tau) ini yg mungkin bisa diserap pasar ... CMIIW
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yah benar kalo motor dgn besar cc 250 dengan spek full BU ambil contoh Suzuki bandit 250 (4 cyl) thn 2002 dilepas 70-an jt di Suzuki barito beda dengan Thunder 250 yg -/+ 20-an jt kalo dilihat memang pengendara motor di indonesia susah berkembang atau ikut merasakan teknologi baru roda 2 karena besarnya pajak yg dikenakan kecuali mau main kucing2an dengan aparat baru kita bisa merasakan jenis motor yg lain yg bukan pada umumnya motor yg berseliweran di jalan dan tentunya the real biker yg biasanya bisa seperti ini.
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Yah kynya indonesia tinggal menunggu perkembangan bebek jadi 750cc/1000cc.Knp pajaknya mahal sekali ya.Apa motor gede itu termasuk barang yang mewah.Bukankah di luar itu barang umum?
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JADI BAGUS MANA SCORPIO SAMA MOTOR2 SEJENIS DI SINI????
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Post by indy »

SEKORPIO bagus dimesin dari pada TIGER. Dan udah monoshock, tapi modelnya kaku.
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cuma itu aja kelebihan scorpio??? bagaimana dengan spare path dan pemakaian buat harian?? irit??? tahan banting??? (kembali ke topik nih:)
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Segitu udah baguslah, harganya lebih murah juga.
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klo soal keiritan sama tiger irit mana???
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kalu soal keiritan, irit karisma.tapi kalo ditanya soal milih mana, milih ninja deh abiz harga ga jauh beda dgn macan ato kalajengking. :e-dance: .sori OOT.abaikan aja :mrgreen:
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Gw jg lagi bingung nih mo pilih tiger ato scorpio z.
Tolong donk kasih masukannya.
Yang mana yg lebih baik?
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Gw sih milih scorpio Z diliat dari performa lebih unggul, modelnya juga mirip tiger..
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electrofuq wrote:waw minat banget dong kalo tigernya kaya gitu.. btw mesinnya dohc yah?

Engine: DOHC 4 stroke air-cooled, one vertical cylinder with oil radiator
Displacement: 249 cm3
Max.Power Output: 24hp /8000rpm
Max.Torque: 2.48Kgf.m /6000 rpm
Transmission: 6 speed
Fuel Tank: 16.5 Liters ( 2.5 Liters reserve)
Bandingkan saja dengan Scorpio 225cc:
Tipe Mesin : 4 langkah, SOHC pendingin udara
Volume Silinder : 223 cm.
Susunan Silinder : Silinder Tunggal Tegak
Gigi Transmisi : 5 kecepatan.
Pola Pengoperasian Gigi : N-1-2-3-4-5.
Kapasitas Tangki : 13,5 liter.
Daya Maksimum : 19 PS/8.000 RPM
Torsi Maksimum : 1.86 kgf.m/6.500 RPM.
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Itu perbandingan dengan Twister kan?

perbandingan dengan Tiger 2000
http://www.astra-honda.com/index.php?fu ... pec&id1=09
Spesifikasi
Panjang X lebar X tinggi 1.990 x 742 x 1.035 mm
Jarak sumbu roda 1.330 mm
Jarak terendah ke tanah 145 mm
Berat kosong 123 kg
Tipe rangka Pola Berlian
Tipe suspensi depan Teleskopik
Tipe suspensi belakang Lengan ayun dengan sok breker ganda, peredam dapat disetel
Ukuran ban depan 2,75 - 18 - 42L
Ukuran ban belakang 100/90 - 18 - 47P
Rem depan Tipe cakram hidrolik, dengan piston ganda
Rem belakang Tipe Tromol, digerakkan dengan tuas mekanis
Kapasitas tangki bahan bakar 13 Liter
Tipe mesin 4 Langkah OHC, pendinginan udara bebas
Diameter x langkah 63,5 x 62,2 mm
Volume langkah 196,9 cc
Perbandingan kompresi 9,0 : 1
Daya maksimum 17,4 PS / 8.500 RPM
Torsi maksimum 1,62 kgf.m / 7.000 RPM
Kapasitas minyak pelumas mesin 1,0 liter pada penggantian periodik
Kopling Manual, tipe basah dan pelat majemuk
Gigi transmsi 6 kecepatan, bertautan tetap
Pola pengoperan gigi 1-N-2-3-4-5-6
Starter Pedal dan elektrik
Aki 12 V - 7 Ah
Busi ND x 24 FS U9 / NGK DP8EA-9
Sistem pengapian CDI-AC, Magneto
Konsumsi bahan bakar 48 km/liter pada kecepatan 50 km/jam
Yamaha Scorpio Z
http://www.yamaha-motor.co.id/product-d ... _PRODUCT=8
Spesifikasi Mesin :

Tipe Mesin : 4 langkah, SOHC pendingin udara
Diameter x Langkah : 70 x 58 mm.
Volume Silinder : 223 cm.
Perbandingan Kompresi : 9.5 : 1.
Kopling : Manual
Susunan Silinder : Silinder Tunggal Tegak
Gigi Transmisi : 5 kecepatan.
Pola Pengoperasian Gigi : N-1-2-3-4-5.
Sistem Pengapian :DC-CDI.
CHASIS :

Berat : 125 kg.
Tipe Rangka : Double Cradle
Kapasitas Tangki : 13,5 liter.
Jarak Sumbu Roda : 1295 mm.
Jarak ke Tanah : 165 mm.
Tinggi Tempat Duduk : 770 mm.
SUSPENSI :

Suspensi Depan : Teleskopik.
Suspensi Belakang : Monocross.
Ukuran Ban Depan : 80/100-18-47 P.
Ukuran Ban Belakang : 100/90-18-56 P.
PERFORMA :

Dimensi : PxLxT : 2020 x 770 x 1090 mm.
Sistem Starter : Kick & Electric.
Daya Maksimum : 19 PS/8.000 RPM
Torsi Maksimum : 1.86 kgf.m/6.500 RPM.
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Rem Depan : Cakram double piston
Rem Belakang : Tromol.
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Post by Sheva »

Kalo saya mah pilih Scorpi Z aja dach...
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emang sz lebih panjang yah toraknya?
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Scorpio-Z lebih OK deh drpd Tiger, soalnya aku dah pernah punya Tiger n sekarang ganti ke Scorpio-Z. Cocok motor ini nyandang gelar RX-King 4-Tak, bagi yg punya Tiger coba S-Z deh pasti kesengsem (rasakan lonjakan Rpm-nya cepet bener naiknya). Posisi bawa yg kurang enak kalo std pabrik posisi setang n shocknya terlalu lembut untuk yg belakang. Tp gampang kok solusinya setang+shock belakang ganti aja dg Kawak Ninja punya. Setuju....
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Bro Speed, shock belakang ganti ninja punya harus diakalin ga? apa aja? trus jadi nungging ga?? habis berapa? sharing please thanks.
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sayangnya tutup tanki scorpio Z malah jelek...yg scorpio non-Z lama kan mirip moge punya ...tapi maklumlah harganya kan sekarang lebih murah dari yg lama......yg gw punya beli 19jt.500rb waktu jaman harganya diatas 20 jt malah ban nya dunlop....
yg jelas kenyamanan dan performa lebih baik scorpio, bentuk lebih bagus tiger..