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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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marmut wrote: 06 Apr 2021, 23:39
Omnibus wrote: 06 Apr 2021, 23:21
menurut mbah, itu insert head mendingan yg 3/8 atau 1/2 tuh buat 730/10? tp yg 1/2 edan harganya, seharga TW nya hampir. TW sy yg kemurahan jualnya .... :big_weee:

saya pilih 3/8".

tapiii..... setau saya, 725qr yang 3/8" max. 50 n.m mbah.... dan saya belum ada info buat 725qr/10 itu sq. dr. berapa.
males mau buka stahlwille.de.

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misleading information minta dijitak bikin orangnya spanning! orgnya disini juga lagi baca dia. :big_biglaugh:

3/8 dan 1/2 max 100Nm mbah. kecuali yg kecil 1/4 itu cuma max 40Nm.

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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Omnibus wrote: 06 Apr 2021, 23:49
misleading information minta dijitak bikin orangnya spanning! orgnya disini juga lagi baca dia. :big_biglaugh:

3/8 dan 1/2 max 100Nm mbah. kecuali yg kecil 1/4 itu cuma max 40Nm.


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lha kan ada kalimat "setau saya"....
jadi ngga bisa dikenakan pasal mbah.

:big_weee:

kalo ngga ada keterangan "setau saya", baru bisa dikenakan pasal.

:big_grin: :big_weee:

yang baca spanning? cemen ah..... gimana kalo salah timing mark? bisa black out.

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Nanti kalo dah sampe ke tangan pemilik barunya apa dipajang jg dimari? :big_childish:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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marmut wrote: 06 Apr 2021, 23:56
Omnibus wrote: 06 Apr 2021, 23:49
misleading information minta dijitak bikin orangnya spanning! orgnya disini juga lagi baca dia. :big_biglaugh:

3/8 dan 1/2 max 100Nm mbah. kecuali yg kecil 1/4 itu cuma max 40Nm.


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lha kan ada kalimat "setau saya"....
jadi ngga bisa dikenakan pasal mbah.

:big_weee:

kalo ngga ada keterangan "setau saya", baru bisa dikenakan pasal.

:big_grin: :big_weee:

yang baca spanning? cemen ah..... gimana kalo salah timing mark? bisa black out.

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:
Jd inget kaya waktu jaman kuliah

Bkin tesis wajip tulis "dikutip dr", ga bole ide sendiri apalagi setau saya, auto revisi dah tuh

Trus pake endnote yg list nya berlembar2 gara saking banyak kutipan


Salah timing mark ?? Kl enjin non interference gapapa.. tp kl iya, kebon binatang campur emak2 lg masak rendang ama cabe ijo smuanya kluar
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yanuarra wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:09 Nanti kalo dah sampe ke tangan pemilik barunya apa dipajang jg dimari? :big_childish:

wajip.

kecuali rela diiket di pohon trus kakinya dikelitikin pake bulu ayam semaleman.
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ha ha ha ha

kocak semua ha ha ha ha

apalagi orgnya baca juga

wah sakit perut saya terpingkal2
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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DOHC wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:15
Salah timing mark ?? Kl enjin non interference gapapa.. tp kl iya, kebon binatang campur emak2 lg masak rendang ama cabe ijo smuanya kluar

pelajaran berharga mbah... pelajaran berharga.
kebon binatang ngga sempet keluar, apalagi cabe-cabean ga kepikir lagi karena lidah sudah kaku kaya as kopel kena sildenafil.
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Udah baca sampe bawah ternyata udah ada yg nyerok mbah... (Aslinya ngeles) hahaha...
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indeskey wrote: 06 Apr 2021, 16:03 wow.... mantuls :big_love:

ayo dibeli mbah...
kapan lagi manoskop stahlwille plus ratchet italiano dapet harga segitu?
ampe borok sikutan ga bakal ada lagi....
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marmut wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:22
yanuarra wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:09 Nanti kalo dah sampe ke tangan pemilik barunya apa dipajang jg dimari? :big_childish:

wajip.

kecuali rela diiket di pohon trus kakinya dikelitikin pake bulu ayam semaleman.
Siapa ya mbah pembeli beruntung tsb? Mbah dohc kayanya ya.. apa org depok ya.. :big_think:

Timingnya ngga tepat nih ane nggk dpt krn THR belom turun..wkwkw
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wooh jangan salah ..... tret hand tools ini gini2 banyak silent reader nya. waktu itu aja yg akhirnya beli britool satu Om Zzzprince. jarang banget doi posting dimari.

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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yanuarra wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:39
Siapa ya mbah pembeli beruntung tsb? Mbah dohc kayanya ya.. apa org depok ya.. :big_think:

Timingnya ngga tepat nih ane nggk dpt krn THR belom turun..wkwkw

lha ngapain beli lagi? kan itu cuman 20-100 n.m, sedangkan udah ada yang digital 20-200 n.m...
kecuali range torsinya lebih gede.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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Omnibus wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:53 wooh jangan salah ..... tret hand tools ini gini2 banyak silent reader nya. waktu itu aja yg akhirnya beli britool satu Om Zzzprince. jarang banget doi posting dimari.

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tul. salah tiganya trio mark x - e36 - ignis.

wkwkwkwkwkwkwkwk........
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marmut wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 01:04
yanuarra wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:39
Siapa ya mbah pembeli beruntung tsb? Mbah dohc kayanya ya.. apa org depok ya.. :big_think:

Timingnya ngga tepat nih ane nggk dpt krn THR belom turun..wkwkw

lha ngapain beli lagi? kan itu cuman 20-100 n.m, sedangkan udah ada yang digital 20-200 n.m...
kecuali range torsinya lebih gede.
Bonus ratchet swivelnya itu mbah yg jd kejutan.. :big_biglaugh:
Cakep loh Beta mbah.. dlu di kampus jg ada cwe namanya Beta cakep bener :big_slap:
Kalo TWnya sendiri kan bisa dioper lg wkwkwkwkwk. ke yg lebih butuh misalnya :mky_02:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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marmut wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 01:04
yanuarra wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:39
Siapa ya mbah pembeli beruntung tsb? Mbah dohc kayanya ya.. apa org depok ya.. :big_think:

Timingnya ngga tepat nih ane nggk dpt krn THR belom turun..wkwkw

lha ngapain beli lagi? kan itu cuman 20-100 n.m, sedangkan udah ada yang digital 20-200 n.m...
kecuali range torsinya lebih gede.
ane mencium aroma kekhawatiran mbah ..... perlu beli yg manual spy kl yg digital ada apa2 msh tenang ada yg manual







kabooooeerrrr ........... :ngacir:
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Hmmm kalo khawatir mah belinya yg padanannya mbah alias 730N/20 :big_weee:
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Katalog stahlwille 2020-2021 yg di share Stahwille Thailand :mky_01:
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ok ane bukan bermaksud apa2, sama sekali bukan, cuma mau sharing alangkah salutnya ane dgn cara customer handling Amazon. jadi spt pernah disinggung sebelumnya ada paket ane yg dikirim dr Amazon yg isinya kosong, ane selain info ke carrier juga kirim notif ke sender spy mereka tau kl ada problem. diluar dugaan ane, tanpa nunggu2 dan tanpa babibu Amazon langsung kirim replacement nya dan pakai expedited shipment.

what a fantastic customer service. :big_exellent:


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Omnibus wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 02:19 ok ane bukan bermaksud apa2, sama sekali bukan, cuma mau sharing alangkah salutnya ane dgn cara customer handling Amazon. jadi spt pernah disinggung sebelumnya ada paket ane yg dikirim dr Amazon yg isinya kosong, ane selain info ke carrier juga kirim notif ke sender spy mereka tau kl ada problem. diluar dugaan ane, tanpa nunggu2 dan tanpa babibu Amazon langsung kirim replacement nya dan pakai expedited shipment.

what a fantastic customer service. :big_exellent:



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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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Omnibus wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 01:16
marmut wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 01:04
yanuarra wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:39
Siapa ya mbah pembeli beruntung tsb? Mbah dohc kayanya ya.. apa org depok ya.. :big_think:

Timingnya ngga tepat nih ane nggk dpt krn THR belom turun..wkwkw

lha ngapain beli lagi? kan itu cuman 20-100 n.m, sedangkan udah ada yang digital 20-200 n.m...
kecuali range torsinya lebih gede.
ane mencium aroma kekhawatiran mbah ..... perlu beli yg manual spy kl yg digital ada apa2 msh tenang ada yg manual







kabooooeerrrr ........... :ngacir:
Beli tools jgn yg digital2

Kl rusak tu sakit bkinn tensi meledug

Importir jg bsanya jualan doank, dsuru tanggung jawap btulin pd planga plongo doank :big_think:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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marmut wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:27
DOHC wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 00:15
Salah timing mark ?? Kl enjin non interference gapapa.. tp kl iya, kebon binatang campur emak2 lg masak rendang ama cabe ijo smuanya kluar

pelajaran berharga mbah... pelajaran berharga.
kebon binatang ngga sempet keluar, apalagi cabe-cabean ga kepikir lagi karena lidah sudah kaku kaya as kopel kena sildenafil.
Mumpung lg bahas klep kepentok

Mbah,

Jd crita nya 2 taon silam nubie perna iseng bareng sepupu ganti timing belt lancer nya doi, nah pas belt ud copot, tangan doi iseng ogel2in tu kruk as, dan bergerak donk lmayan pula krn waktu itu busi lupa ta copot.. nahh trus nubie puter lg tu krukas balikin ke timing marknya... nahhh pertanyaan nya, kl kaya gt klep ud sempet kepentok ancur ga mbah ? Mesin ampe ari ini (kayanya) aman.. mobil simpenan jarang pake, tp trakir sempet dibawa doi jakarta bandung pp via cipularangbahn kesetanan bawanya
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sebetulnya kl pake SST utk ngejam kruk n noken as ga akan terjadi masalah. yg jd soal kemana beli SSTnya. even mobil sejuta umat macam papanjah, ipah, n para lcgc2 yg hrsnya banyak yg memerlukan sst bingung belinya dimana.

pak gentong hrsnya masspro itu sst kan doi demen tuh bikin2 begituan. sayang orgnya doyan bgt kecemplung. :mky_07:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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DOHC wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 08:56
mbah, ngomingin valve timing ini kan kl di YT banyak bgt mobil eropa yg aktuator vvt/cam phaser nya pada rusak tuh dan sering juga bikin catastrophic damage. bahkan audi vw jg ditambah lagi masalah timing chain nya stretched. kl gitu berarti komponen2 itu harusnya preventive maintenance dong ya tiap brp puluh/ratus ribu sebelum bikin catastrophic damage.

nah kl di L15z itu kan i-vtec nih, jadi selain ada aktuator vtec yg pin utk on/off multi valve nya juga harusnya ada bagian vvt nya utk ubah2 derajatnya kan mbah. waktu dulu nyetel klep emang ada ya mbah dkt sprocket cam benda vvt aktuator itu di l15z?
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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DOHC wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 08:56
Mumpung lg bahas klep kepentok

Mbah,

Jd crita nya 2 taon silam nubie perna iseng bareng sepupu ganti timing belt lancer nya doi, nah pas belt ud copot, tangan doi iseng ogel2in tu kruk as, dan bergerak donk lmayan pula krn waktu itu busi lupa ta copot.. nahh trus nubie puter lg tu krukas balikin ke timing marknya... nahhh pertanyaan nya, kl kaya gt klep ud sempet kepentok ancur ga mbah ? Mesin ampe ari ini (kayanya) aman.. mobil simpenan jarang pake, tp trakir sempet dibawa doi jakarta bandung pp via cipularangbahn kesetanan bawanya

syarat klep bisa hancur adalah, saat piston cukup mendapatkan momentum dari kruk as dan/atau flywheel.

berapa kali saya iseng dengan sengaja muter camshfaft sampai fully open lalu kruk as diputar (kondisi tanpa timing chain/belt).

apa yang terjadi?
mentok ga bisa diputer lagi.

kalau dipaksa bagaimana?
antara batang klep bengkok atau payung klep somplak.

tapi apa iya punya kekuatan tangan sampe segitunya dan akal sebodoh itu.

kalo saya, udah tau mentok dan berasa stuck ya sudah, puter kebalikannya. selesai.
dan saat selesai pasang timing chain/belt, selalu putar setidaknya 2x putaran supaya yakin nggak ada kesalahan.

busi juga sebaiknya dilepas biar saat muter kruk as lebih gampang nggak ngelawan kompresi.
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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Omnibus wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 10:41
DOHC wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 08:56
mbah, ngomingin valve timing ini kan kl di YT banyak bgt mobil eropa yg aktuator vvt/cam phaser nya pada rusak tuh dan sering juga bikin catastrophic damage. bahkan audi vw jg ditambah lagi masalah timing chain nya stretched. kl gitu berarti komponen2 itu harusnya preventive maintenance dong ya tiap brp puluh/ratus ribu sebelum bikin catastrophic damage.

nah kl di L15z itu kan i-vtec nih, jadi selain ada aktuator vtec yg pin utk on/off multi valve nya juga harusnya ada bagian vvt nya utk ubah2 derajatnya kan mbah. waktu dulu nyetel klep emang ada ya mbah dkt sprocket cam benda vvt aktuator itu di l15z?
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 04]

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marmut wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 13:44
DOHC wrote: 07 Apr 2021, 08:56
Mumpung lg bahas klep kepentok

Mbah,

Jd crita nya 2 taon silam nubie perna iseng bareng sepupu ganti timing belt lancer nya doi, nah pas belt ud copot, tangan doi iseng ogel2in tu kruk as, dan bergerak donk lmayan pula krn waktu itu busi lupa ta copot.. nahh trus nubie puter lg tu krukas balikin ke timing marknya... nahhh pertanyaan nya, kl kaya gt klep ud sempet kepentok ancur ga mbah ? Mesin ampe ari ini (kayanya) aman.. mobil simpenan jarang pake, tp trakir sempet dibawa doi jakarta bandung pp via cipularangbahn kesetanan bawanya

syarat klep bisa hancur adalah, saat piston cukup mendapatkan momentum dari kruk as dan/atau flywheel.

berapa kali saya iseng dengan sengaja muter camshfaft sampai fully open lalu kruk as diputar (kondisi tanpa timing chain/belt).

apa yang terjadi?
mentok ga bisa diputer lagi.

kalau dipaksa bagaimana?
antara batang klep bengkok atau payung klep somplak.

tapi apa iya punya kekuatan tangan sampe segitunya dan akal sebodoh itu.

kalo saya, udah tau mentok dan berasa stuck ya sudah, puter kebalikannya. selesai.
dan saat selesai pasang timing chain/belt, selalu putar setidaknya 2x putaran supaya yakin nggak ada kesalahan.

busi juga sebaiknya dilepas biar saat muter kruk as lebih gampang nggak ngelawan kompresi.
Hmm berarti kl enjin masi bsa nyala dan dipake cipularangbahn

Artinya klep masi aman yah mbah

Mungkin jgn2 sebenernya kubah piston dan klep masi ad ruang sedikit kl.. jd makanya kruk as diputer dikit tanpa belt pun masi gapapa
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