EV's Safety? - Part 2

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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 6:45
Nah itu mbah
Yg sy alami di mobil bensin aja gtu.

Degrade performa aki itu gak bertahap / gradual.
Tp lgs terjun bebas :big_biglaugh:
apalagi aki basah standard, CCA drop dikit ya tewas, gejala paling kalau emang sensitif berasa, cranking kadang2 berat atau apalah.

solusi lain ya pake aki deep cycle, nah kalau ini relatif lebih tahan CCA drop
Anyway klo lgs ganti aki sendiri, itu aman buat m6?
Jd tinggal pesen sopi, instant, pas sampai lgs pasang :mky_03:
kalau dari video di IG kayanya aman tuh mbah? :mky_03:
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 6:45
Salvanost wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 6:39 Copy paste salah satu komunitas BYD M6
Intinya cek aki itu ga guna
mau sharing, minggu lalu sy mengalami hal yg sama,jadi tepatnya tgl 2 dec sy serv 1thn (km 14rb) hasil semua bgs, aki juga bgs ada print testnya, tgl 4 dec malam tiba2 pas mau plg dr rumah teman byd M6 sy mati total, panggil tehnisi diperiksa hasilnya aki drop sampai 4 volt di jumper hidup, d test katanya aki masih bgs, sy bawa plg sampai rumah aman.
besok nya tgl 5 dec sy bawa ke bengkel byd utk d cek ulang hasilnya katanya bgs semua, tidK d temukan yg aneh,akhirnya mbl itu sy pakai aman, saptu dan minggu aman.
seninnya tgl 8 dec lagi2 mogok lagi d rumah, tehnisi dtg diperiksa hasilnya sama aman, tp akhirnya mereka mau bawa mbl sy ke bengkel saja karena alat lebih komplit, kebesokkannya di infokan katanya aki nya ada 1 sel yg mati, karena sdh lewat masa garansi 1thn, M6 saya 1 thn lewat 1 thn lewat 5 hari, jd sy hrs beli harganya 1.174.000.
diganti kemaren ,mudah2an bener akinya yg bermasalah wait n see deh.
oh yach nau tanya apa mbl M6 kalian pas starter indokator pengisian aki timbul gak d display utk beberapa detik mati sendiri?
Nah itu mbah
Yg sy alami di mobil bensin aja gtu.

Degrade performa aki itu gak bertahap / gradual.
Tp lgs terjun bebas :big_biglaugh:

Anyway klo lgs ganti aki sendiri, itu aman buat m6?
Jd tinggal pesen sopi, instant, pas sampai lgs pasang :mky_03:
Aman udah tanya seller aki langganan
Garansi cuma 1 tahun aki 12V :big_biglaugh:

Tar gua mau ke BYD buat tanya2 doank
Sekalian cek cara dia cek aki gimana
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:51
nah yang bener kek atto 1 om :big_think:
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b0ku wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:36
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:51
nah yang bener kek atto 1 om :big_think:
PR lagi mbah, aki LFP kan biasanya pake BMS :mky_03: BMS juga bisa rusak :ungg:

tar ganti aki mesti pake scantool, reset dulu, input VIN, alasannya sekuriti atau apalah kaya mobil yurop, atau kalau lewat predicted life cycle auto Engine Check padahal masih sehat = planned obsolences :mky_03:
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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kunaskun wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 13:39
b0ku wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:36
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:51
nah yang bener kek atto 1 om :big_think:
PR lagi mbah, aki LFP kan biasanya pake BMS :mky_03: BMS juga bisa rusak :ungg:

tar ganti aki mesti pake scantool, reset dulu, input VIN, alasannya sekuriti atau apalah kaya mobil yurop, atau kalau lewat predicted life cycle auto Engine Check padahal masih sehat = planned obsolences :mky_03:
hah seribet itu ya saya gak tau loh soalnya sempet kepikiran pake ke GE8 cuma takut meleduk mendingan yang aman2x aja :big_slap:
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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b0ku wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 13:45 hah seribet itu ya saya gak tau loh soalnya sempet kepikiran pake ke GE8 cuma takut meleduk mendingan yang aman2x aja :big_slap:
banyak yang pake di motor mbah, rakitan DIY pula :mky_03: entah ngejer awet, ngejer CCA, atau ya motor modif gitu2, ada juga pake rakitan yg biasa build batere buat RC Car, Drone, dsb.
BMS juga sifatnya universal buat load balancing, charge discharge controller, safety, etc.

dan bener mikirnya karena DIY kok serem ya di pasang di mobil :mky_03:
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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kunaskun wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 13:39
b0ku wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 12:36
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 11:51
nah yang bener kek atto 1 om :big_think:
PR lagi mbah, aki LFP kan biasanya pake BMS :mky_03: BMS juga bisa rusak :ungg:

tar ganti aki mesti pake scantool, reset dulu, input VIN, alasannya sekuriti atau apalah kaya mobil yurop, atau kalau lewat predicted life cycle auto Engine Check padahal masih sehat = planned obsolences :mky_03:
Hidup itu rumit

Jangan dibikin sederhana :ngacir:
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kalau aki lithium ngga pakai BMS ya jadi korek api di kabin dong
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 16:32
Hidup itu rumit

Jangan dibikin sederhana :ngacir:
mindset si beli mobil baru biar ngirit duit................. :wkkk:
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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ilhami wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 0:49 kalau aki lithium ngga pakai BMS ya jadi korek api di kabin dong
Ya paling hamil doang mbah 🫠
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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sebagai informasi saja, untuk mobil listrik:

1. Aki Lithium lebih stabil voltasenya

2..Lead-acid sangat buruk untuk micro-cycling
Pada mobil listrik:
aki 12V sering dicharge sedikit demi sedikit oleh DC-DC
bisa puluhan sampai ratusan kali per hari
sering drop ke 11–12V
sering kesedot parasitic load 24/7 (telematika, gateway CAN, passive entry)
Ini dinamakan micro-cycling.
Lead-acid tidak tahan micro-cycle → cepat sulfat → umur pendek.
Lithium jauh lebih tahan → ribuan micro-cycle tidak masalah.
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 16:32 Hidup itu rumit

Jangan dibikin sederhana :ngacir:
moto hidup genzet beli mobil zaman now :ungg:
ilhami wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 2:06 sebagai informasi saja, untuk mobil listrik:

1. Aki Lithium lebih stabil voltasenya

2..Lead-acid sangat buruk untuk micro-cycling
Pada mobil listrik:
aki 12V sering dicharge sedikit demi sedikit oleh DC-DC
bisa puluhan sampai ratusan kali per hari
sering drop ke 11–12V
sering kesedot parasitic load 24/7 (telematika, gateway CAN, passive entry)
Ini dinamakan micro-cycling.
Lead-acid tidak tahan micro-cycle → cepat sulfat → umur pendek.
Lithium jauh lebih tahan → ribuan micro-cycle tidak masalah.
tapi kadang2 lebih baru lebih baik belum tentu lebih efektif mbah :mky_03:
paradox kehidupan yak :mky_02:
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kok jd sering gini yang bikin susah itu kalo ud mogok ngelock ban mampus dah loe sono evakuasinya :mky_07:
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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b0ku wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 0:16



kok jd sering gini yang bikin susah itu kalo ud mogok ngelock ban mampus dah loe sono evakuasinya :mky_07:
Tebak2an :
Yg Nguyen aki 12V gak ngisi -> cek inverter, masa iya scanner tool-nya ndak bisa baca inverter. Jumper dulu sampe relay naik, baca scanner. Masa iya ATPM-nya kagak kasih scanner ?, wong modal OBD doang, tinggal data-nya kasih ke ATPM gak. Kalo dah nyala, liat itu inverter ngisi aki kecil gak, kalo gak ngisi samsek tilpun Hanoi :big_peace: :big_peace: :big_peace:

Yg Sahabat Peng. Agak rumit ni, antara inverter AC mati -> Batere ndak mau kasih power takut panas, ATAU batere ada soak satu dua cell ndak mau kasih power ke AC. Harusnya coret2an-nya ngarah ke dua itu. Cek bacaan voltase batere, ada cell yg aneh gak, kalo ada beresin dulu (semoga bukan jenis batere lem mati). Lagian ngapain jg. ke HVIL. Kalo HVIL itu harus cutoff 100% kecuali pingin kesetrum seisi mobil :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

Alat ada, mahal tapi :
Screenshot_20251214_074104_Chrome.jpg
Nah bengkel suru beli 80 jetong emang mumet, apalagi ntar yg punya mobil nanya : Sampeyan dzholim, colok alat begitu doang tagihan dua juta :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

Yang repot bahkan kl bengkel mau invest, belun tu merek menlen ama nguyen disupport pabrikan alat diagnosa apa gak. Kalo scanner2an di HP si kalo dicek malah si tukang buat mimpi ada semua..
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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Bibieight wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 0:47

Tebak2an :
Yg Nguyen aki 12V gak ngisi -> cek inverter, masa iya scanner tool-nya ndak bisa baca inverter. Jumper dulu sampe relay naik, baca scanner. Masa iya ATPM-nya kagak kasih scanner ?, wong modal OBD doang, tinggal data-nya kasih ke ATPM gak. Kalo dah nyala, liat itu inverter ngisi aki kecil gak, kalo gak ngisi samsek tilpun Hanoi :big_peace: :big_peace: :big_peace:

Yg Sahabat Peng. Agak rumit ni, antara inverter AC mati -> Batere ndak mau kasih power takut panas, ATAU batere ada soak satu dua cell ndak mau kasih power ke AC. Harusnya coret2an-nya ngarah ke dua itu. Cek bacaan voltase batere, ada cell yg aneh gak, kalo ada beresin dulu (semoga bukan jenis batere lem mati). Lagian ngapain jg. ke HVIL. Kalo HVIL itu harus cutoff 100% kecuali pingin kesetrum seisi mobil :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

Alat ada, mahal tapi :
Screenshot_20251214_074104_Chrome.jpg
Nah bengkel suru beli 80 jetong emang mumet, apalagi ntar yg punya mobil nanya : Sampeyan dzholim, colok alat begitu doang tagihan dua juta :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:

Yang repot bahkan kl bengkel mau invest, belun tu merek menlen ama nguyen disupport pabrikan alat diagnosa apa gak. Kalo scanner2an di HP si kalo dicek malah si tukang buat mimpi ada semua..
mahal amat om scanner nya biasanya 5-30jt disini ud semua merek :big_biglaugh:
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b0ku wrote: Wed Dec 10, 2025 23:59
nah ini biasanya si mereka lsg buyback om kalo masalahnya berat kayak kasus kolong gubuq sama sealion batre mampus :big_bored:

setau saya mereka itu lebih ke yang penting jgn makin viral mendingan bakar duit :big_bored:

biarin aja lah mereka ngadepin kek gini next bakalan lebih kenceng suaranya kok, bom ud kesebar kemaren okt 9000 nov 8000 tinggal tunggu aja komplennya :mky_07:

padahal di brazil ud banyak kasus mereka anggep wear and tear gak di perbaiki juga masuk sini :big_bored:

justru cherry lebih ancur bukannya malah nyalain customer mobilnya mogok :wkkk:
ya makanya, kliatan itu jeki belon di hubungin ama bedeye, skrg malah ngelebar ke komunitasnya :big_biglaugh:

tapi chery issue spt ini hampir ga kedengeran, walaupun entah mobilnya diperbaiki/ nggak, setidaknya di redam dengan baik mbah

btw, boleh nemu

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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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darrelund wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 1:55
ya makanya, kliatan itu jeki belon di hubungin ama bedeye, skrg malah ngelebar ke komunitasnya :big_biglaugh:

tapi chery issue spt ini hampir ga kedengeran, walaupun entah mobilnya diperbaiki/ nggak, setidaknya di redam dengan baik mbah

btw, boleh nemu

Jeki ud om itu malah sya liat dia foto sama orang denza juga :big_think:

mobil china apalagi tuh om yang putih???? :big_think:
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akhirnya aturan2x bodo di cabut2xin

:big_grin:
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pabrik mobil amerika belum pada bangkit ya?
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b0ku wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:05

akhirnya aturan2x bodo di cabut2xin

:big_grin:
NOICE!!!
ilhami wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:35 pabrik mobil amerika belum pada bangkit ya?
??? :big_think:
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kunaskun wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 13:51
Suryaputra wrote: Thu Dec 11, 2025 16:32 Hidup itu rumit

Jangan dibikin sederhana :ngacir:
moto hidup genzet beli mobil zaman now :ungg:
Mo nyetel AC aja harus masuk menu-> Sub Menu -> Sub sub menu...
Apa itu AC puteran kompor?
:mky_03:
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Re: EV's Safety? - Part 2

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IGedeAmat wrote: Mon Dec 15, 2025 0:39 Mo nyetel AC aja harus masuk menu-> Sub Menu -> Sub sub menu...
Apa itu AC puteran kompor?
:mky_03:
yang keren setel2x cruise control dari layar tengah :mky_07:



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retard design :wkkk:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Dec 15, 2025 1:23
IGedeAmat wrote: Mon Dec 15, 2025 0:39 Mo nyetel AC aja harus masuk menu-> Sub Menu -> Sub sub menu...
Apa itu AC puteran kompor?
:mky_03:
yang keren setel2x cruise control dari layar tengah :mky_07:



:big_biglaugh:

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Step 1 : Masukin semua basic function ke layar tengah

Step 2 : aktifkan paket subscription bulanan kayak software, tiap bulan harus bayar subscription buat aktifin fungsi2 dasar kayak Audio dan AC.

Step 3 : Lock layar tengah kalau belum perpanjang subscription.

Step 4 : Profit cring.. cring...