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greyrevolver wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 14:17
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greyrevolver wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:47 BMW F30 320D 1995cc 8AT 100km @1700-1800 rpm
Bukan nya 1500 rpm om?
sumber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCTzmUa9Na4
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Tadi dapatnya di 1700-1800rpm om , tapi bukan pas cruising ya pad akselerasi..di video youtube nya pas 80km/h juga di 1500rpm, kayaknya saya juga d gear ratio yang ini..oiya mesinya beda sama yg video, di video 184hp kode n, yg punya saya 191hp kode b, gak tau pengaruh atau ngga :)
Mungkin karena pas jalan 80 nya pakai gigi 7 nya lalu pas jalan 100 pakai gigi 8 nya jadi rpm nya sama2 di 1500 haha.
Kalau gearbox nya masih pakai gear ratio sama sih seharusnya tdk pengaruh...
atau mungkin pas om liat waktu akselerasi jadi torque converter nya belum benar2 fully lockup. Coba jalanin anteng di 100 km/h pasti bisa lebih rendah rpm nya.
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Tats wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:13
syafimsa wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:28 '15 Hrv 1.5 E CVT -2100 RPM
'08 Rush 1.5S MT -3700 RPM
'16 Civic turbo sedan 1.5 ES CVT -1900 RPM
'14 Altis 1.8V CVT -1800 RPM
'13 Camry 2.5V 5AT -2200 RPM
'11 Jeep wrangler rubicon 3.8 5AT (?) -2500an RPM
Halo om, wrangler jk 3.8 itu kalau ga salah 4at
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Mitsubishi Mirage GLS 1200cc CVT 2200rpm
Nissan Evalia 1500cc 5MT 3000rpm

semua cruising speed, sudah tidak ada akselerasi. pake metode naikin speed dulu diatas 100kpj, lalu kurangi throttle sampe stabil 100kpj.
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arfs wrote:
greyrevolver wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 14:17
arfs wrote: Bukan nya 1500 rpm om?
sumber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCTzmUa9Na4
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Tadi dapatnya di 1700-1800rpm om , tapi bukan pas cruising ya pad akselerasi..di video youtube nya pas 80km/h juga di 1500rpm, kayaknya saya juga d gear ratio yang ini..oiya mesinya beda sama yg video, di video 184hp kode n, yg punya saya 191hp kode b, gak tau pengaruh atau ngga :)
Mungkin karena pas jalan 80 nya pakai gigi 7 nya lalu pas jalan 100 pakai gigi 8 nya jadi rpm nya sama2 di 1500 haha.
Kalau gearbox nya masih pakai gear ratio sama sih seharusnya tdk pengaruh...
atau mungkin pas om liat waktu akselerasi jadi torque converter nya belum benar2 fully lockup. Coba jalanin anteng di 100 km/h pasti bisa lebih rendah rpm nya.
Nah iya Om , make sense beda gear kayaknya .. n satu lagi beda seri transmisi f30 pre lci pake 8hp45, setelah lci pake 8hp50, jadi kemungkinan beda gear ratio
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CRV RE 2007 2.4 5AT 1700 rpm an
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greyrevolver wrote: Nah iya Om , make sense beda gear kayaknya .. n satu lagi beda seri transmisi f30 pre lci pake 8hp45, setelah lci pake 8hp50, jadi kemungkinan beda gear ratio
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Yup ternyata memang beda. Yg zf80hp ratio nya bisa bikin rpm lebih rendah :big_love:
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Om Pugman aku bantu rapiin di page 1 ya, karena yang bisa ngedit post lama cuma moderator :mky_01:
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ChZ wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:49 Om Pugman aku bantu rapiin di page 1 ya, karena yang bisa ngedit post lama cuma moderator :mky_01:
Ahayy... Terima kasih banyak, makanya saya kemarin agak bingung, lewat beberapa jam ternyata sudah tidak bisa edit

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POS VETT wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 13:02
Pugman wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 16:14
POS VETT wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:45 Karena speedometer biasanya kurang akurat, kecepatan kalau bisa diukur dengan GPS. Tachometer biasanya cukup akurat.
Nah itu dia lebih jarang yang perhatikan. Karena ga semua orang buka aplikasi juga. Saya pernah bandingkan speedometer Peugeot dengan Android GPS, 40kpj speedometer sekitar 37 di GPS begitu 100kpj di GPS Androis sekitar 95kpj, Pernah 170kpj di speedo di GPS cuma 153kpj jadi makin kencang makin besar bedanya.

BTW mana neh data Corvet nya?
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Untuk Corvettes sbb:
1985 Z51, Doug Nash 4+3 (4-sp MT with 2-sp AT), final 3.07 - 1673 rpm
2002 & 2003 Z06, 6-sp MT, final 3.42 - 1529 rpm
2008 Z06, 6-sp MT, final 3.42 - 1334 rpm
Fakta menarik - kecepatan 100kpj di 2008 Z06 bisa dicapai di gigi satu dan 7000 rpm (redline).
Data diambil dari internet dan nilai engine speed dihitung dengan asumsi diameter ban 26 inci (1985), 26,3 inci (2002 & 2003), dan 26,7 inci (2008).

Kalau untuk pikap2 GM full-size (Chevrolet Silverado dan GMC Sierra 1500) yang half-ton model tahun 2014-2018 sbb:
* Untuk 5.3l V8, 6-sp AT, final 3.42 - 1492 rpm
* Untuk 5.3l V8, 8-sp AT, final 3.42 - 1442 rpm
* Untuk 6.2l V8, 8-sp AT, final 3.23 - 1367 rpm
Datanya diambil dari internet dan nilai engine speed dihitung dengan asumsi diameter ban 32 inci (275/55/20) dan tidak ada selip di transmisi (torque converter lock up).
Bisa detail gitu Rpm-nya, diukur pakai apa Om? Apa iya tacho bawaan GM sedetail itu?
:big_think:
Btw keren juga ya gigi 1 bisa 100, berarti rasio agak berat mungkin ya..
Saya pernah nyoba redline mobil saya di gigi 1 sekitar 6500 cuma 50-60kpj dan cuma 2000cc juga.
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Honda Mobilio 2015 1.5 CVT 1900Rpm (irit poll)
Toyota Kijang Innova 2009 2.5 Diesel 2KD M/T 2800Rpm (Berisik)
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Hyundai Avega Matik 2010 : 100 kmh @ 2200 rpm. Rendah emang sampe ga kedengeran suara mesinnya
Hyundai i20 matik 2011 : 100 kmh @ 2500 rpm
Ayla matik 2015 : 100 kmh @ 2900 rpm
Mazda 323 1.5 elite MT 88 : 100 kmh @ 3000 rpm
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Beberapa mobil yg pernah ane coba dan ane inget:

Avanza 1.3 M/T non VVT-i --> 3950 rpm
Xenia 1.0 M/T non VVt-i --> 4250 rpm
CRV 2.0 M/T --> 3200 rpm
Innova D4D M/T --> 2800 rpm
Jazz GE8 A/T --> 2700 rpm
Carry 1.5 M/T --> 4000 rpm
Avanza Veloz 1.5 A/T --> 3400 rpm
Great Corolla M/T --> 3300 rpm
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2016 - Honda CRV 2.0 M/T
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Pugman wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 3:55
POS VETT wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 13:02
Pugman wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2018 16:14

Nah itu dia lebih jarang yang perhatikan. Karena ga semua orang buka aplikasi juga. Saya pernah bandingkan speedometer Peugeot dengan Android GPS, 40kpj speedometer sekitar 37 di GPS begitu 100kpj di GPS Androis sekitar 95kpj, Pernah 170kpj di speedo di GPS cuma 153kpj jadi makin kencang makin besar bedanya.

BTW mana neh data Corvet nya?
:e-dance:
Untuk Corvettes sbb:
1985 Z51, Doug Nash 4+3 (4-sp MT with 2-sp AT), final 3.07 - 1673 rpm
2002 & 2003 Z06, 6-sp MT, final 3.42 - 1529 rpm
2008 Z06, 6-sp MT, final 3.42 - 1334 rpm
Fakta menarik - kecepatan 100kpj di 2008 Z06 bisa dicapai di gigi satu dan 7000 rpm (redline).
Data diambil dari internet dan nilai engine speed dihitung dengan asumsi diameter ban 26 inci (1985), 26,3 inci (2002 & 2003), dan 26,7 inci (2008).

Kalau untuk pikap2 GM full-size (Chevrolet Silverado dan GMC Sierra 1500) yang half-ton model tahun 2014-2018 sbb:
* Untuk 5.3l V8, 6-sp AT, final 3.42 - 1492 rpm
* Untuk 5.3l V8, 8-sp AT, final 3.42 - 1442 rpm
* Untuk 6.2l V8, 8-sp AT, final 3.23 - 1367 rpm
Datanya diambil dari internet dan nilai engine speed dihitung dengan asumsi diameter ban 32 inci (275/55/20) dan tidak ada selip di transmisi (torque converter lock up).
Bisa detail gitu Rpm-nya, diukur pakai apa Om? Apa iya tacho bawaan GM sedetail itu?
:big_think:
Btw keren juga ya gigi 1 bisa 100, berarti rasio agak berat mungkin ya..
Saya pernah nyoba redline mobil saya di gigi 1 sekitar 6500 cuma 50-60kpj dan cuma 2000cc juga.
Semua hasilnya dihitung dari data yang ada; ada rumusnya untuk cari putaran mesin (rpm) dari rasio gigi persneling, rasio gigi differensial, diameter ban (meter), dan kecepatan mobil (kpj). Kalau dilihat di tachometer, amannya dibulatkan ke 100 rpm ke atas, contohnya: 1442 rpm --> 1500 rpm dan 1529 rpm --> 1600 rpm.

Corvette C6 Z06 memang begitu karena mesinnya sangat besar, 7000cc V8 (kode LS7) yang outputnya 505 hp (di 7000 rpm) dan 475 ft-lbs (644 Nm).
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Pug 407 2.0 4at 100kpj @2600
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POS VETT wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 13:02 Untuk Corvettes sbb:
1985 Z51, Doug Nash 4+3 (4-sp MT with 2-sp AT), final 3.07 - 1673 rpm
2002 & 2003 Z06, 6-sp MT, final 3.42 - 1529 rpm
2008 Z06, 6-sp MT, final 3.42 - 1334 rpm
Fakta menarik - kecepatan 100kpj di 2008 Z06 bisa dicapai di gigi satu dan 7000 rpm (redline).
Data diambil dari internet dan nilai engine speed dihitung dengan asumsi diameter ban 26 inci (1985), 26,3 inci (2002 & 2003), dan 26,7 inci (2008).

Kalau untuk pikap2 GM full-size (Chevrolet Silverado dan GMC Sierra 1500) yang half-ton model tahun 2014-2018 sbb:
* Untuk 5.3l V8, 6-sp AT, final 3.42 - 1492 rpm
* Untuk 5.3l V8, 8-sp AT, final 3.42 - 1442 rpm
* Untuk 6.2l V8, 8-sp AT, final 3.23 - 1367 rpm
Datanya diambil dari internet dan nilai engine speed dihitung dengan asumsi diameter ban 32 inci (275/55/20) dan tidak ada selip di transmisi (torque converter lock up).
Sebenernya ga heran si corvette bisa nyentuh 100 km/h di gigi 1
Jadi inget dulu jeremy clarkson pernah iseng pake corvette (lupa yg mana, zr1 kali ya) cobain start dari berhenti pake gigi 5/6
Saking gede torsi bawahnya bisa start dgn mudah sampe redline ahahaha

Sori sedikit oot, jadi inget dulu saya dikasih pinjem cbr1000rr 2014 sama temen saya
Pake gigi 1 bisa sampe 140 km/h, mungkin bisa lebih tp ga berani
Uniknya pake gigi 6 di 100 km/h putaran mesinnya agak tinggi, kira2 3500-4000an rpm
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Tats wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 18:19
POS VETT wrote: Sun Jan 07, 2018 13:02 Untuk Corvettes sbb:
1985 Z51, Doug Nash 4+3 (4-sp MT with 2-sp AT), final 3.07 - 1673 rpm
2002 & 2003 Z06, 6-sp MT, final 3.42 - 1529 rpm
2008 Z06, 6-sp MT, final 3.42 - 1334 rpm
Fakta menarik - kecepatan 100kpj di 2008 Z06 bisa dicapai di gigi satu dan 7000 rpm (redline).
Data diambil dari internet dan nilai engine speed dihitung dengan asumsi diameter ban 26 inci (1985), 26,3 inci (2002 & 2003), dan 26,7 inci (2008).

Kalau untuk pikap2 GM full-size (Chevrolet Silverado dan GMC Sierra 1500) yang half-ton model tahun 2014-2018 sbb:
* Untuk 5.3l V8, 6-sp AT, final 3.42 - 1492 rpm
* Untuk 5.3l V8, 8-sp AT, final 3.42 - 1442 rpm
* Untuk 6.2l V8, 8-sp AT, final 3.23 - 1367 rpm
Datanya diambil dari internet dan nilai engine speed dihitung dengan asumsi diameter ban 32 inci (275/55/20) dan tidak ada selip di transmisi (torque converter lock up).
Sebenernya ga heran si corvette bisa nyentuh 100 km/h di gigi 1
Jadi inget dulu jeremy clarkson pernah iseng pake corvette (lupa yg mana, zr1 kali ya) cobain start dari berhenti pake gigi 5/6
Saking gede torsi bawahnya bisa start dgn mudah sampe redline ahahaha

Sori sedikit oot, jadi inget dulu saya dikasih pinjem cbr1000rr 2014 sama temen saya
Pake gigi 1 bisa sampe 140 km/h, mungkin bisa lebih tp ga berani
Uniknya pake gigi 6 di 100 km/h putaran mesinnya agak tinggi, kira2 3500-4000an rpm
0-150 mph in one gear, 5th. Mobilnya Corvette C6 Z06. Sebenarnya di gigi 5, mobilnya bisa sampai ke top speed, 198 mph, tapi dia kehabisan jalan karena diadakan di runway.
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Subaru XV 2000 cc CVT 1900 rpm (1700 with cruise control)
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ChZ wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:49 Om Pugman aku bantu rapiin di page 1 ya, karena yang bisa ngedit post lama cuma moderator :mky_01:
Ralat boss, pake Mirage GLS A/T CVT ternyata kalau cruising di 100 km/h bisa 2000 RPM doang.
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