All About Grease (gemuk pelumas)

[Turboman]

All About Grease

Sumber :
https://www.kyodoyushi.co.jp/english/kn ... /category/


Soap Grease

Calcium Soap Grease

In a typical manufacturing process of calcium soap grease, mineral oil, fatty acid, calcium hydroxide (hydrated lime) and water are mixed and cooked to bring to saponification. The process is complete after adjustment of water content. Grease made with tallow contains a small amount of water as structural stabilizer, and, when heated above 80°C, it loses its associated water, resulting in structure breakdown and separation of oil from thickener. Due to this poor heat resistance, it is used for general plain bearings operating under rather low speed and low load where temperature would not rise above 70°C in service. The water resistance is good on the other hand, and thus the grease performs well in applications exposed to water.
Use of caster oil fatty acid results in a grease which contains no water. Because the structure is stabilized without water, it can be used up to about 100°C.

Lithium Soap Grease

Lithium soap grease is the most widely used multi-purpose grease, from general industrial uses to automobiles, bearings and home electric products. It consists of mineral or synthetic oil and lithium stearate or lithium salt, a hardened fatty acid derived from castor oil. Usable in a wide range of temperature, and has excellent water resistance and mechanical stability.

Aluminum Complex Soap Grease

Aluminum complex grease is made from a complex soap which is formed by reaction of aromatic carboxylic acid and stearic acid on aluminum hydroxide. Aluminum complex grease is characterized by a very fine fiber structure, high dropping point (200°C or above) , excellent heat and water resistance and mechanical stability.
Lithium Complex Soap Grease

The soap is formed by reaction of lithium hydroxide with the mixture of fatty acid and dibasic acid. The dropping point of the finished grease is 250°C or higher. Lithium complex grease has excellent heat and water resistance and rust preventing property, as well as longer life at high temperature than lithium soap grease.

Non-Soap Greases

Urea Grease

Typical urea grease formulation uses organic compound containing more than two urea groups (-NH-CO-NH-) as thickening agent. Because of its excellent heat and water resistance, urea grease is an optimum choice for continuous casting lines and iron mills, and actually is the most widely used nonsoap grease.
Urea grease is also widely used for automotive electrical components. For high temperature condition, synthetic oil based urea grease is preferred.

Bentonite Grease

This grease thickened by organic bentonite is often called "grease without dropping point" or "grease without melting point," because it does not lose the grease structure even at extremely high temperature.
The grease can offer other advantages like good shear stability, but its application is limited because of rather poor rust prevention, hardening tendency when exposed to high temperature condition (200°C or above) for a long time, and poor ability to keep oil film on the bearing race surface during high speed rotation.

Other Non-Soap Greases

Other nonsoap greases include Na terephthalamate Grease, Copper Phthalocyanine Grease, Teflon (PTFE) Grease, Mica Grease and Silica Gel Grease.

[IGedeAmat]

Nice info Oom Turbo,
Tapi artikelnya cuma jelasin spek berdasarkan kondisi suhu kerja nya aja,
bisa jelasin aplikasi ke kendaraannya gimana ?
misalnya untuk lumasin bagian A, sebaiknya pake grease tipe ini,
bagian B cocoknya grease tipe itu..

[adityabp]

Hehehe, baru tau kalo gemuk itu sebenarnya sabun.

[daftar]

kalo grease untuk drive shaft / CV joint yang paling cocok apa ya? boleh sebut merk. soalnya kadang belepotan keluar padahal karet boot udah rapet
kalo di bengkel kaki2 kadang dikasih gemuk gak jelas

[touchme]

nice info.
ane malah cuma tau 2 jenis gemuk.. haha
gemuk lithium based biasa ane pake buat bearing, cv joint ato release fork kopling yang bunyi kriet kriet...
sama anti seized grease buat lumasin komponen karet kaya rem (ini bahannya apa ya?)

@om daftar, mungkin gemuknya ga tahan panas dan meleleh.
coba cari high temp grease. buat cv joint ane cuma pake BM1 yang tube kaya odol. ga tau bagus apa ngga pake ini merk cuma karna murah dan gampang ditemuin di supermarket sih. sejak ganti udah 3 taun ga ada tanda tanda gemuk meler keluar. anehnya justru sisa gemuk yang ga dipake malah agak mencair gitu setelah beberapa taun disimpen.

[Turboman]

Kalo utk bearing roda kalo mau paling kuat si

Lithium Moly Complex

kalo beban berat banget pake NLGI 3

kalo beban ringan pake NLGI 2

Utk Cross Joint kalo mau bagus juga Li Moly Complex (se kurang2 nya Lithium Complex)

Kalo utk tie rod gitu si pake Lithium EP aja cukup, NLGI 3 or 2

Grease Lithium umumnya ada 3 tingkatan :

- Li Multipurpose (utk yg ringan2)
- Li EP (beban medium)
- Li Complex (High Temp / High load / shock load)

Utk beban lebih berat lagi = Li Moly Complex

NLGI ibarat SAE di oli mesin

NLGI 6 = setara Keju

NLGI 00 = kayak oli super kental

CMIIW

[touchme]

Kalo utk bearing roda kalo mau paling kuat si

Lithium Moly Complex

kalo beban berat banget pake NLGI 3

kalo beban ringan pake NLGI 2

Utk Cross Joint kalo mau bagus juga Li Moly Complex (se kurang2 nya Lithium Complex)

Kalo utk tie rod gitu si pake Lithium EP aja cukup, NLGI 3 or 2

Grease Lithium umumnya ada 3 tingkatan :

- Li Multipurpose (utk yg ringan2)
- Li EP (beban medium)
- Li Complex (High Temp / High load / shock load)

Utk beban lebih berat lagi = Li Moly Complex

NLGI ibarat SAE di oli mesin

NLGI 6 = setara Keju

NLGI 00 = kayak oli super kental

CMIIW

wuihh thanks om infonya sangat bergizi..
nah kalo penggantian grease rutin ini idealnya berapa KM ato taun ya dgn asumsi pemakaian normal?

selama ini ngerawat mobil ane jarang banget berurusan sama grease. patokannya cuma kalo keliatan ada yang rembes aja deh baru bongkar dan re-grease...

[coklatMetalik]

LGX sy dikasih gemuk kalengan warna biru sm bengkel kaki2 waktu ganti bearing roda & benerin ball joint
45rb sekaleng entah merk apa

[NYoman]

Sekarang malah saya adanya Grease untuk sepeda, dari Teflon fluoropolymer.. Gak lengket macam grease buat industri yg memang hightemp..
Btw bearing yang di lumasi juga keramik jadi lebih minim friksi dari carbonsteel..

[jsatriani]

Kalo utk bearing roda kalo mau paling kuat si

Lithium Moly Complex

kalo beban berat banget pake NLGI 3

kalo beban ringan pake NLGI 2

Utk Cross Joint kalo mau bagus juga Li Moly Complex (se kurang2 nya Lithium Complex)

Kalo utk tie rod gitu si pake Lithium EP aja cukup, NLGI 3 or 2

Grease Lithium umumnya ada 3 tingkatan :

- Li Multipurpose (utk yg ringan2)
- Li EP (beban medium)
- Li Complex (High Temp / High load / shock load)

Utk beban lebih berat lagi = Li Moly Complex

NLGI ibarat SAE di oli mesin

NLGI 6 = setara Keju

NLGI 00 = kayak oli super kental

CMIIW

Mhn maaf om turbo klau sekira nya sy kurang tepat mengajukan pertanyaan di sini. Dan sy lihat latest post nya di 2018 .
Sy butuh pencerahan ni om mengenai pelumasan area steering component, baik rack steer, rack end, tie rod, link stabl dn ball join. Jadi plan nya saat pergantian komponen tersebut niat nya mau sy lumasi dgn grease yg baik.
Nah saya ingat perkataan om turbo klo grease gaboleh asal campur kecuali memang masuk dalam compatibility list.
Karena sy ga ada pengerahuan mengenai grease bawaan pada komponen tersebut, apakah d perbolehkan kalau grease bawaan sy rontokan total dengan degreaser barulah sy grease ulng dengan grease baru? Kalu memang cara itu salah mohon arahan tentang cara yang tepat. Terimakasih

[Profith83]

Kalo utk bearing roda kalo mau paling kuat si

Lithium Moly Complex

kalo beban berat banget pake NLGI 3

kalo beban ringan pake NLGI 2

Utk Cross Joint kalo mau bagus juga Li Moly Complex (se kurang2 nya Lithium Complex)

Kalo utk tie rod gitu si pake Lithium EP aja cukup, NLGI 3 or 2

Grease Lithium umumnya ada 3 tingkatan :

- Li Multipurpose (utk yg ringan2)
- Li EP (beban medium)
- Li Complex (High Temp / High load / shock load)

Utk beban lebih berat lagi = Li Moly Complex

NLGI ibarat SAE di oli mesin

NLGI 6 = setara Keju

NLGI 00 = kayak oli super kental

CMIIW

Grease yang paling cocok untuk batang steering rack/tie road/link stabil yang mana yah?

Coba google di CRC ada macam macam
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia?keyword=grease



A high purity, NLGI Grade 2 lithium based grease. Provides superior lubrication & durability in any weather and most temperatures. It is a versatile grease designed for light duty applications requiring a long grease life. Will not break down or run out.
APPLICATIONS:
Hinges, latches, overhead door tracks, open gears, chains, cables, slide conveyors, guide rails, cams, pistons, machinery, tools, & equipment. A break-in lubrication for bearings
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3310
84rb

Extreme pressure MOLY-GRAPH Multi-Purpose Grease is the best general purpose grease for a wide range of applications. It offers an excellent mechanical and shear stable Lithium 12 Hydroxy Protection of "moly" and graphite. Timken load of 40 lbs.
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3141
108rb

Driller Red Grease is a NLGI #2 Red Grease which offer superior protection to lubricate a wide variety of severe duty drilling, industrial, mining and construction equipment. Timken load of 80 lbs.
APPLICATIONS:
Drilling and Mining applications, backing plates, ball joints, chassis points, construction ball & roller bearings, idler bearings, industrial applications, pillow block bearings, sprocket bearings, U-joints, water pumps, wheel bearings
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3640
124rb

Grease untuk wheel bearing, chassis, dan point suspensi model GC-LB. Up to 232*C
Aplikasi : Automotive applications, ball joints, bearings, chassis points, construction ball & roller bearings, conveyor bearings, disc-brake systems, farm equipment, guides, mining applications, press rolls, roller bearings, slides, wheel bearings
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3110
132rb

A very stable resistant Aluminum Complex grease. Contains rust & oxidation inhibitors, anti-wear and extreme pressure additives & fortified with "moly" and graphite. For use in automotive disc/drum brakes, chassis and suspension systems
APPLICATIONS:
Automotive applications, ball joints, bearings, chassis points, construction ball & roller bearings, conveyor bearings, disc-brake systems, farm equipment, guides, mining applications, press rolls, roller bearings, slides, wheel bearings
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3160
159rb

A superior multi-purpose certified lithium complex based NLGI #2 grease. Contains extreme pressure, anti-wear, & anti-oxidation additives. Ideal for high temperature & performance applications. Drop point 500F (260C)
APPLICATIONS:
Ind. mining, metal production, machining, plastic molding, pumps, electric motors, ball & roller bearings, kilns, assembly plants, drying ovens, trucks, automobiles, buses, construction equipment, off-road operations, tractors mowers, reapers, water pumps
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3191
243rb

[Turboman]

kalo Grease utk rack steer coba liat di service manual nya minta nya spec apa

kalo Tie rod / Ball Joint gitu umumnya isinya NLGI 2......tapi jaman skg kan udah amat sgt jarang yg ada nipple-nya, kecuali di kend besar

[Profith83]

Summon @Omnibus @DOHC.

Kalau untuk CV joint apa bisa pakai asumsi grease CRC yg paling mahal paling cocok dan paling melindungi?

Kira kira paling bagus yang mana?

[DOHC]

Summon @Omnibus @DOHC.

Kalau untuk CV joint apa bisa pakai asumsi grease CRC yg paling mahal paling cocok dan paling melindungi?

Kira kira paling bagus yang mana?

sesuai buku panduan dan FSM toyota

gunakan yg NLGI -2 lithium based.... merek bebas kl saya mah

[Profith83]

Summon @Omnibus @DOHC.

Kalau untuk CV joint apa bisa pakai asumsi grease CRC yg paling mahal paling cocok dan paling melindungi?

Kira kira paling bagus yang mana?

sesuai buku panduan dan FSM toyota

gunakan yg NLGI -2 lithium based.... merek bebas kl saya mah

om, kalau dari 2 ini

Extreme pressure MOLY-GRAPH Multi-Purpose Grease is the best general purpose grease for a wide range of applications. It offers an excellent mechanical and shear stable Lithium 12 Hydroxy Protection of "moly" and graphite. Timken load of 40 lbs.
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3141
108rb

Driller Red Grease is a NLGI #2 Red Grease which offer superior protection to lubricate a wide variety of severe duty drilling, industrial, mining and construction equipment. Timken load of 80 lbs.
APPLICATIONS:
Drilling and Mining applications, backing plates, ball joints, chassis points, construction ball & roller bearings, idler bearings, industrial applications, pillow block bearings, sprocket bearings, U-joints, water pumps, wheel bearings
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3640
124rb

Yang bawah lebih mahal, apakah lebih cocok
Yang bawah timken load 80, yang atas 40
Yang atas disebut moly graph lithium, yang bawah gak disebut jenisnya

CV joint bekerja nya:
1. Diputar speed tinggi
2. Extreme pressure
3. Panas yang lumayan karena dekat dengan jalur exhaust. tapi kalau mobil jalan sebenarnya gak terlalu panas

Saya lagi menimbang mana yang paling cocok, karena bedanya cuma dikit.
Supaya bisa melindungi mobil dengan lebih bagus.
Lebih tepatnya karena CV joint 5 sd 10 thn sekali, sekalian saja yang bagus hehehehe

[DOHC]

Summon @Omnibus @DOHC.

Kalau untuk CV joint apa bisa pakai asumsi grease CRC yg paling mahal paling cocok dan paling melindungi?

Kira kira paling bagus yang mana?

sesuai buku panduan dan FSM toyota

gunakan yg NLGI -2 lithium based.... merek bebas kl saya mah

om, kalau dari 2 ini

Extreme pressure MOLY-GRAPH Multi-Purpose Grease is the best general purpose grease for a wide range of applications. It offers an excellent mechanical and shear stable Lithium 12 Hydroxy Protection of "moly" and graphite. Timken load of 40 lbs.
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3141
108rb

Driller Red Grease is a NLGI #2 Red Grease which offer superior protection to lubricate a wide variety of severe duty drilling, industrial, mining and construction equipment. Timken load of 80 lbs.
APPLICATIONS:
Drilling and Mining applications, backing plates, ball joints, chassis points, construction ball & roller bearings, idler bearings, industrial applications, pillow block bearings, sprocket bearings, U-joints, water pumps, wheel bearings
https://www.tokopedia.com/crcindonesia/ ... ase-sl3640
124rb

Yang bawah lebih mahal, apakah lebih cocok
Yang bawah timken load 80, yang atas 40
Yang atas disebut moly graph lithium, yang bawah gak disebut jenisnya

CV joint bekerja nya:
1. Diputar speed tinggi
2. Extreme pressure
3. Panas yang lumayan karena dekat dengan jalur exhaust. tapi kalau mobil jalan sebenarnya gak terlalu panas

Saya lagi menimbang mana yang paling cocok, karena bedanya cuma dikit.
Supaya bisa melindungi mobil dengan lebih bagus.
Lebih tepatnya karena CV joint 5 sd 10 thn sekali, sekalian saja yang bagus hehehehe

Yg mana aj om sreg gapapa mbah

Yg penting nlgi 2, dan RUTIN.. beli grease gun, tiap ganti oli mesin skalian ngolong tembak vet, kerjaan 5 menit kurang kelar itu.. tinggal cari nepel nya di tiap joint as kopel, total 3 biji

Btw, itu cv joint kl bener2 d baca d manual nya, dsuru per 10 rebu di cek / d tembak vet


Kl per 5 - 10 taon , ud ga usa pusing tembak vet lg, tp skalian ganti aj bearing spidernya

[marmut]

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[MSU]

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legend ini, selain tancho

[DOHC]

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Official vet partner asemregez musatek since 1960

[akbrn]

legend ini, selain tancho

sorry nih oom pertanyaan rada katro, sering liat di bengkel kaki2 suka pake tancho buat grease nya.

kl tancho contain lithium based jg?

[bboyq]

klo gemuk silicone untuk slide pin kaliper rem recommend pake apa om? klo di luar negeri setau ane ada merk 3M, di indo agak sulit carinya, mohon info ya

[MSU]

legend ini, selain tancho

sorry nih oom pertanyaan rada katro, sering liat di bengkel kaki2 suka pake tancho buat grease nya.

kl tancho contain lithium based jg?

kearifan lokal ini om...
kalo nanya di sini ya pasti ga rekomend lha aslinya utk rambut om

[josomba]

klo gemuk silicone untuk slide pin kaliper rem recommend pake apa om? klo di luar negeri setau ane ada merk 3M, di indo agak sulit carinya, mohon info ya

slider pin kalau saya pribadi pake sta-lube (by CRC, CMIIW) brake and caliper grease ...

[DOHC]

klo gemuk silicone untuk slide pin kaliper rem recommend pake apa om? klo di luar negeri setau ane ada merk 3M, di indo agak sulit carinya, mohon info ya

slider pin kalau saya pribadi pake sta-lube (by CRC, CMIIW) brake and caliper grease ...

ta kirain vet rotary atau cobra

[Profith83]

Berbagai macam GREEASE di website CRC ada specnya.
https://www.crcindustries.com/products/grease.html

Tertulis Timken Load, drop point, flash point, working temperature dan Plastic save(daerah ball joint, link stabil, tie road, etc) dan banyak lagi parameter

Berikut beberapa yang ada tulisan di spec dan/atau di description, plastic safe nya tertulis yes:
https://www.crcindustries.com/products/ ... l3301.html
https://www.crcindustries.com/products/ ... l3640.html
https://www.crcindustries.com/products/ ... l3400.html

Yang moly, di spec dan desc tertulis plastic safe nya not determined (alias tidak ditest mungkin, jadi banyak juga yang not determined, bukan berarti pasti jelek terhadap plastik)
https://www.crcindustries.com/products/ ... wt-oz.html

Mobil kira kira panasnya batang stering rack apakah sampai 125 derajat celcius?
Apakah inner CV joint pasanya sampai 125 derajat celcius juga?

Kalau tidak sampai 125 C, sepertinya dibawah 2 diantara dibawah ini yang cocok
1. CRC driller red grease
-Timken load paling tinggi 80,
-Lithium, EP, Plastic safe,
-Drop point 550 F
-Working temp -23 sd 204 C,
-Flash point 150 C. (agak aneh dicompare nomer 2 dibawah, harusnya flash point lebih tinggi dari working temp)
https://www.crcindustries.com/products/ ... l3640.html

2. CRC red grease
-Timken load 60,
-Lithium, EP, Plastic safe,
-Drop point 540 F
-Working temp sd -12 sd 162 C,
-Flash point 232 C.
https://www.crcindustries.com/products/ ... l3400.html

hmmm ... benar apa tidak hasil check2x saya diatas.
Monggo yang ahli sumbang pendapat