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Virtual Launch All New Civic & City di Indonesia

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Honda baru aja nih ngeluncurin 2 line-up terbarunya. City Sedan & Civic RS Sedan Gen.11, gimana menurut para user SM disini? :big_think:



klo diliat sih ini Civic RS kayaknya pake spec thailand punya ya? dari velg & aksesoris mirip soalnya

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All New Civic RS : Rp 567.000.000 | https://www.honda-indonesia.com/civic-rs
City Sedan : Rp 355.000.000 | https://www.honda-indonesia.com/city
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Civic mayan juga harganya Beda 67jt sama altis hybrid, 117jt dg altis biasa
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Senargitar wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:41 Civic mayan juga harganya Beda 67jt sama altis hybrid, 117jt dg altis biasa
iya om jadi beda tipis sama Mazda 3 Sedan yg di 561jt
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darrelund wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:44
Senargitar wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:41 Civic mayan juga harganya Beda 67jt sama altis hybrid, 117jt dg altis biasa
iya om jadi beda tipis sama Mazda 3 Sedan yg di 561jt
Ini mazdut sama ahond gk kena efek hilang ppnbm sedan apa ya
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kok bisa altis hybrid lebih murah ya :big_think:
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buset dah.... kirain bakalan dibawah lima ratus jutaan kayak altis...
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Ini pajaknya yang blm direvisi atau gimana ya ? Corolla Altis aja bisa 450an juta yang tipe V, okelah ini Civic lengkap dgn Honda Sensing, tp Altis yang pake TSS dan hybrid aja cuman 500jtan kok. Semoga sih masih blm di revisi ya, kalau ttp di 567jt sih parah banget HPM ambil untungnya, kalau soal CBU, ya Altis jg sama2 CBU Thailand kok :big_slap: :big_dunno: :big_bored:
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Parah ni Honda ambil cuannya, bukannya turun harga sedannya malahan naik banyak banget, ckckck parah....
Mungkin hasil uji emisinya demikian buruk ya, sampe ppnbmnya malahan lebih tinggi dari ppnbm yang dulu :mky_07: (sarkas)
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FYI, Civic RS ini lom ada sunroof loh ya. lawan yg lain kyk Corolla & Mazda 3 udah ada :big_biglaugh:
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Saya sebagai kaum mendang-mending menyatakan :

"Mending Corrola Altis Hybrid"

:ngacir:

Btw ACC nya Civic ini bisa sampe berhenti kayak corrola atau gabisa kayak mzd3 ya?
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ini pricing nya langsung ada?

BRV yg sebulan lalu launching ampe sekarang belum ada harganya, apa nunggu avanza baru keluar dulu ya...

city nambah pantat nambah 50jt ya
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Ane bukan kaum mendang mending, tapi kok aHond seperti ga kapok2 ya. Udah bagus pakai emission tax biar ga ada diskriminasi bangsa sedan, tapi liat pricing nya bikin elus dada :big_bored: note : bukan fanboy aToyot maupun aHond
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rakyatwkwkland wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:42 Saya sebagai kaum mendang-mending menyatakan :

"Mending Corrola Altis Hybrid"

:ngacir:

Btw ACC nya Civic ini bisa sampe berhenti kayak corrola atau gabisa kayak mzd3 ya?
mestinya bisa sih, ada LSF (Low Speed Follow) oom. sama kek accord
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topiqfurqan wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:54 ini pricing nya langsung ada?

BRV yg sebulan lalu launching ampe sekarang belum ada harganya, apa nunggu avanza baru keluar dulu ya...

city nambah pantat nambah 50jt ya
Ga sampe 50 jt sih harusnya oom. City hb sekarang kan kena potongan PPNBM jdnya keliatannya selisih dgn sedannya 50 jt. Let say nanti udah ga dapet potongan PPNBM lagi city hb jd ada di sekitar 320 jt, ya selisih 30an jt lah buat nambah pantat.
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Ahh ane coba nambahin lagi ahh :

"Nambah 27 jt lagi bisa dapet kemri, auto dikira pejabat..."

:ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:

FYI ternyata selepas kena perubahan skema PPNBM baru, ternyata harga kemri tipe G tinggal 594 doang. Seinget ane kayanya bahkan lebih murah daripada waktu XV70 launching di 2019 yg lalu.
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Mantaaap Honda ... Mesti pede kalo pricing, segmen pasarnya sdh jelas. Untuk kelas mobil segitu selisih 50-100 jeti bukan masalah kalau sdh suka 👍
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rakyatwkwkland wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 13:52
topiqfurqan wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:54 ini pricing nya langsung ada?

BRV yg sebulan lalu launching ampe sekarang belum ada harganya, apa nunggu avanza baru keluar dulu ya...

city nambah pantat nambah 50jt ya
Ga sampe 50 jt sih harusnya oom. City hb sekarang kan kena potongan PPNBM jdnya keliatannya selisih dgn sedannya 50 jt. Let say nanti udah ga dapet potongan PPNBM lagi city hb jd ada di sekitar 320 jt, ya selisih 30an jt lah buat nambah pantat.
oia bener ada ppnbm

satu lagi yang unik, city kayaknya ga dikasih honda sensing ya sama sekali ya, kalo civic wajar harga segitu, brv malahan dapet ya

perangnya memang di lsuv ini ya

kalo diliat harga sekarang vios G CVT harga ppnbm 250jt, beda 100jt, tanpa ppnbm beda 70jt sama new city sedan :big_dunno:
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Or4cle wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 14:07 Mantaaap Honda ... Mesti pede kalo pricing, segmen pasarnya sdh jelas. Untuk kelas mobil segitu selisih 50-100 jeti bukan masalah kalau sdh suka 👍
nah saya berpikir begini juga om, berani pasang harga segitu karena emang barangnya bagus
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kenapa honda PD banget ya pasang harga lebih mahal dari para pesaing di kelasnya
kita lihat nanti bagaimana respon pasar terhadap mobil baru honda ini
Mencari referensi info mobil bekas yang akurat dan terpercaya
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yg jelas civic hb RS aja hampir ga pernah keliatan di jalanan. itu kan naik harganya banyak bgt setelah facelift. cuma pernah liat 1x di jalan.

yg ini lebih mahal lagi? wah kita liat aja segimana lakunya. tp memang kelas tanggung gini skrg ini sdh bukan segmen favorit sih, jatuhnya malah kaya niche market gitu.
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Kayaknya karena City Sedan CBU dari Thai, makanya mahal....


Penasaran sama Vios, doi kan CKD. Apakah akan laku keras? Hmm
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babehgue708 wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:40 Ini pajaknya yang blm direvisi atau gimana ya ? Corolla Altis aja bisa 450an juta yang tipe V, okelah ini Civic lengkap dgn Honda Sensing, tp Altis yang pake TSS dan hybrid aja cuman 500jtan kok. Semoga sih masih blm di revisi ya, kalau ttp di 567jt sih parah banget HPM ambil untungnya, kalau soal CBU, ya Altis jg sama2 CBU Thailand kok :big_slap: :big_dunno: :big_bored:
btw setelah ngulik" dikit, ternyata kata Honda Indonesia itu harga 355jt & 567jt sudah disesuaikan dengan aturan pajak emisi yg baru oom...

https://www.oto.com/berita-mobil/segini ... asis-emisi

jadi ya sepertinya klo liatin harga Accord yg di 750an, Honda indo memang ingin masang harga yg lebih mahal dibanding pesaingnya
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Keren sih model terbaru City dan apalagi Civic.

Tenaga Civic juga nambah banyak jadi 180hp & 240nm. Mirip2 dengan tenaga mesinnya CRV, Accord, Camry yg sekelas di atasnya. Tenaga segitu dibandingkan Corolla 1800cc 140hp & 170nm ya terpaut jauh.

Harga Civic memang masih mahal tapi IMO pricingnya dibuat mirip dengan sedan BMW seri 3/5 atau Mercy klas C/E atau Lexus IS/GS yg mesinnya sama persis tapi beda bodi & kabin dengan selisih harga relatif sedikit.

Civic di USA dengan fitur setara di Indo itu $29.000 sebelum tax. Harganya 475 juta di USA sekitar jika ditambah tax dan dirupiahkan. Tentu di Indo ada pajak berlapis walaupun PPnBM sedan sudah turun yaitu PPN 10%, PPh-22 7.5%, BBNKB 15%, PKB 2%. Silakan hitung sendiri jatuhnya ntar mirip dgn OTR.

Sebenarnya harga Civic/Accord di luar negeri itu tidak beda banyak. Accord 1500cc turbo itu $32.000 sebelum tax. Beda 3 ribuan USD saja dengan Civic.
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Agak membingungkan honda kasih pricing buat sedan nya disaat pajak sedan udah tidak diskriminasi. Khawatir toyota meniru langkah yang sama dengan kerek harga vios nya seperti throwback harga vios 2008 dulu
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Montero wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:23 Agak membingungkan honda kasih pricing buat sedan nya disaat pajak sedan udah tidak diskriminasi. Khawatir toyota meniru langkah yang sama dengan kerek harga vios nya seperti throwback harga vios 2008 dulu
Sbnrnya mau toyota kerek harga ikutin Honda sih sah2 aja, tapi ya hrsnya mrk tau resikonya, pembelinya ga akan banyak, sedan skrg mulai turun peminatnya krn trend udah berubah ke SUV, ditambah lagi jalanan di Indonesia ga semuanya mendukung utk Sedan.

IMHO, ada 2 strategi buat ambil untung di Sedan, naikin harga spy margin untungnya gede dan nyasarnya ke niche market, tapi ya volume penjualannya ga tinggi, atau ambil margin kecil tapi gedein di volume.

Kalau Civic masih blm liat unitnya spt apa sih, tapi kalau kualitasnya ga meningkat jauh dari Gen 10 menurut sy ga worth ya, tapi kalau bisa menyamai Mazda 3, menurut sy masih worth. Ditambah engine yang lebih powerful dibanding Mazda 3 walau pake transmisi CVT. Semoga aja kualitasnya bisa lompat jauh, mengingat yang dimasukkin disini trim tertinggi dari Civic.