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Nanti ke depannya, persh2 minyak mungkin akan rame2 bikin Immersion fluid & pabrikan mobil IPI akan rame2 terapkan Immersion cooling utk Batt nya

Ini jadi spt "Oli mesin" dan mesin piston di masa skg

Hanya saja masa penggantian Immers fluid ya bisa tahunan

Sejauh ini Immersion fluid dipake utk pendinginan server2 yg kerja 24/7 non stop

Zat aktif utk immersion fluid juga dibuat dari MinBum / Syn crude GTL

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https://exoes.com/en/immersion-cooling- ... %E2%80%8B/

Apa itu Immersion fluid

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Turboman wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:45 Nanti ke depannya, persh2 minyak mungkin akan rame2 bikin Immersion fluid & pabrikan mobil IPI akan rame2 terapkan Immersion cooling utk Batt nya

Ini jadi spt "Oli mesin" dan mesin piston di masa skg

Hanya saja masa penggantian Immers fluid ya bisa tahunan

Sejauh ini Immersion fluid dipake utk pendinginan server2 yg kerja 24/7 non stop

Zat aktif utk immersion fluid juga dibuat dari MinBum / Syn crude GTL

CMIIW

https://exoes.com/en/immersion-cooling- ... %E2%80%8B/

Apa itu Immersion fluid

ini


iya, suhu" overclocking PC udah mulai pakai metode ini,
cuman casingnya musti sealed/fully-waterproof rated.

klo metode radiator coolant, bisa resiko bocor di dalam casing, dan korsleting, trus kebakar

kebayang kan klo kejadian di EV, bisa jadi kembang api dan bikin bingung damkar madamin nya :mky_05:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:10 iya, suhu" overclocking PC udah mulai pakai metode ini,
cuman casingnya musti sealed/fully-waterproof rated.

klo metode radiator coolant, bisa resiko bocor di dalam casing, dan korsleting, trus kebakar

kebayang kan klo kejadian di EV, bisa jadi kembang api dan bikin bingung damkar madamin nya :mky_05:
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This is what happens to a Tesla (EV) when it gets wet due to flooding…..this happened on Marco Island today. If you think Electric cars are the way to go…..think again 😎
kek gini lah om gak tau hoax apa beneran soalnya ud korek sana sini belom ketemu foto lengkapnya :mky_03:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:16
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:10 iya, suhu" overclocking PC udah mulai pakai metode ini,
cuman casingnya musti sealed/fully-waterproof rated.

klo metode radiator coolant, bisa resiko bocor di dalam casing, dan korsleting, trus kebakar

kebayang kan klo kejadian di EV, bisa jadi kembang api dan bikin bingung damkar madamin nya :mky_05:
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This is what happens to a Tesla (EV) when it gets wet due to flooding…..this happened on Marco Island today. If you think Electric cars are the way to go…..think again 😎
kek gini lah om gak tau hoax apa beneran soalnya ud korek sana sini belom ketemu foto lengkapnya :mky_03:
Kesian amat mercy di samping nya,
dah kaya bule dijemur di pantai belitung :mky_03:

hopefully diasuransi sih :upss:
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Suryaputra wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:24
Kesian amat mercy di samping nya,
dah kaya bule dijemur di pantai belitung :mky_03:

hopefully diasuransi sih :upss:
disana wajib om adek saya pake accord rongsok aja asuransi kok dia beli accordnya 2000usd asuransinya kalo gak salah 200$/month :mky_03:
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b0ku wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:26
Suryaputra wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:24
Kesian amat mercy di samping nya,
dah kaya bule dijemur di pantai belitung :mky_03:

hopefully diasuransi sih :upss:
disana wajib om adek saya pake accord rongsok aja asuransi kok dia beli accordnya 2000usd asuransinya kalo gak salah 200$/month :mky_03:
mahalan asuransi nya
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Teknik teknik berkembang terusss agar produk lebih optimal & aman utk digunakan

Demennya kalo teknik Immersion meluas, ini akan memberi napas utk para pebisnis di lingkungan dunia pelumas, dari produsen hingga re-seller

Karena produsen Immersion fluid rata3 persh minyak juga

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Di dunia distribusi listrik tegangan tinggi, udah dipake buat pendinginan trafo/transformer
For oil immersed type transformers:
- Oil Natural Air Natural (ONAN) Cooling
- Oil Natural Air Forced (ONAF) Cooling
- Oil Forced Air Forced (OFAF) Cooling
- Oil Forced Water Forced (OFWF) Cooling
Oli nya juga lifetime, karena belum pernah dengar ada trafo yg dimaintenance ganti oli pendinginnya :big_biglaugh:
cuma khan trafo statis, ngga dikocok2 kyk di mobil sedang jalan :big_biglaugh:
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Immersion fluid sih bukan teknologi baru, udah lumayan lama. Jaman dulu aja submersion cooling di komputer aja udah ada, tapi pake mineral oil.
Kalo yang lebih modern sih lebih canggih cuma harganya masih mahal dan usenya terbatas.
Contoh, buat komputer daripada bikin aquarium gitu, kasih heatsink kecil + kipas jauh lebih murah. Mungkin aplikasinya kalo buat benda non static seperti mobil bakal lebih susah lagi kalo pake cairan seperti itu.

Di luar negri, ada yang pake Q8 Ini buat komputernya wkwkkwwk
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Dulu pernah baca lubrizol kalo ga salah lagi ngembangin semacem battery thermal management fluid + system untuk EV
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pke immersion begini bisa ngurangin beban cooling pump ga ya

yg bikin boros kan itu, batere panas otomatis pump kerja ekstra

klo emg bisa ngurangin sih harusnya bakal jadi stepping stone yg bagus
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Immersion Fluid = The new "Motor Oil" in EV era

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sahabatq8 wrote:Immersion fluid sih bukan teknologi baru, udah lumayan lama. Jaman dulu aja submersion cooling di komputer aja udah ada, tapi pake mineral oil.
Kalo yang lebih modern sih lebih canggih cuma harganya masih mahal dan usenya terbatas.
Contoh, buat komputer daripada bikin aquarium gitu, kasih heatsink kecil + kipas jauh lebih murah. Mungkin aplikasinya kalo buat benda non static seperti mobil bakal lebih susah lagi kalo pake cairan seperti itu.

Di luar negri, ada yang pake Q8 Ini buat komputernya wkwkkwwk
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kalo sistem cooling yg dipake skg = pake Coolant mirip spt coolant radiator
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Turboman wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 14:50 Immersion Fluid = The new "Motor Oil" in EV era

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Gileeee
Itu charger 175000 watts :upss:

Gegara oil cooled jd lbh efisien ya cooling system nya
Terutama pas ngecharge secepet itu.
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Dilansir Nikkei Asia, Profesor Masayoshi Yamamoto kemudian mempreteli satu unit Wuling, Hongguang Mini EV. Dan menemukan, harga tiap komponen yang digunakan memang murah dan bukan komponen khusus untuk mobil listrik. Ditambah, mobil itu tak memiliki teknologi pengereman regeneratif.

https://www.cnbcindonesia.com/news/2022 ... bisa-murah
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Suryaputra wrote:
Turboman wrote: Mon Oct 03, 2022 14:50 Immersion Fluid = The new "Motor Oil" in EV era

wkwkwkwkkw


Gileeee
Itu charger 175000 watts :upss:

Gegara oil cooled jd lbh efisien ya cooling system nya
Terutama pas ngecharge secepet itu.
Zat aktip Immersion cooling = terbuat dr minyak bumi / Syn Crude GTL

Bisnis "oil" tetap berlanjut, dalam bentuk yg berbeda

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Turboman wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:59 Zat aktip Immersion cooling = terbuat dr minyak bumi / Syn Crude GTL

Bisnis "oil" tetap berlanjut, dalam bentuk yg berbeda

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gak akan kemana2x emang itu kapal kargo gak pake pelumas belom mesin2x pesawat terbang kalo pake syntetic fuel kalo kagak tetep aja pake minyak minyak mah gak bakalan kemana2x, malah perusahaan minyak yang pada invest di syntetic fuel :big_biglaugh:
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b0ku wrote:
Turboman wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 1:59 Zat aktip Immersion cooling = terbuat dr minyak bumi / Syn Crude GTL

Bisnis "oil" tetap berlanjut, dalam bentuk yg berbeda

wkwkwkwkwk
gak akan kemana2x emang itu kapal kargo gak pake pelumas belom mesin2x pesawat terbang kalo pake syntetic fuel kalo kagak tetep aja pake minyak minyak mah gak bakalan kemana2x, malah perusahaan minyak yang pada invest di syntetic fuel :big_biglaugh:
Yup

Semua plastik / Ban (Sintetik rubber-nya) / Cat / Kulit sintetik / Interior fabrics (Polyester yarn)

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b0ku wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:10
gak akan kemana2x emang itu kapal kargo gak pake pelumas belom mesin2x pesawat terbang kalo pake syntetic fuel kalo kagak tetep aja pake minyak minyak mah gak bakalan kemana2x, malah perusahaan minyak yang pada invest di syntetic fuel :big_biglaugh:
ah kasian fans mobil lestrek... yang berharap bisa jadi penyelamat bumi krn katanya minyak bumi habis 50 thn lagi ternyata tesla kesayangannya ya tetep pake minyak minyak juga. :mky_03:
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ilhami wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:52 bahan bacaan saja

https://impakter.com/is-using-synthetic ... tric-cars/


buat ditonton aja :mky_03:

E FUEL itu kalo mau nyari banyak study dikerjain sama perusahaan2x gede itung2xannya ditaro di website resmi mereka, gak kayak EV semua cuma claim sepihak dari study organisasi terus taro2x di berita sama youtube buat propaganda :big_biglaugh:
ChZ wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:45 ah kasian fans mobil lestrek... yang berharap bisa jadi penyelamat bumi krn katanya minyak bumi habis 50 thn lagi ternyata tesla kesayangannya ya tetep pake minyak minyak juga. :mky_03:
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gampang nantangin mereka suruh kuras semua OIL based liquid di mobil mereka berani kagak :wkkk:

ud jelas mereka bikin ekonomi makin ancur





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ati2x dengerinnya ntar bisa makin kesel sama green organisation mereka lama2x kek gak punya otak banyak tuntutan tapi gak ada solusinya taunya cuma push EV ud jelas EV ngerusak tapi mereka gak pernah protes atau mereka juga takut karna mereka yang push sendiri :ngacir:
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Kalo boleh tahu

ada yang sangat benci sekali dgn kehadiran mobil EV, ada masalah apa ya.......wwkwkkw.......

Apa ada yg Bisnis nya terancam jika produksi ICE di setop ?

apa ada yg bisnis nya terancam jika populasi ICE menurun ?

Itu mah sama aja spt Restoran di jalan antar kota yg mengeluh omzet turun gara2 ada jalan Tol, restoran jadi sepi.......he he he

Maap ya sebelumnya

Kalo saya pribadi senang dgn kehadiran terobosan baru, apapun itu, mau Smart phone / AI pengganti pekerjaan manusia / Robot pengganti pekerjaan manusia / Drone pengganti helikopter dll

Kalo di otomotif, EV welcome, tapi harusnya ICE tetap diproduksi saja, jangan ada phase out ICE, biarkan masyarakat memilih produk yg dirasa paling pas

Juga soal std emisi, dari Euro 2 ke Euro 6 saya percaya itu lebih banyak unsur bisnisnya.....mobil2 yg Euro 6 pake perangkat pengurang emisi bejibun, meningkatkan omzet produsen parts hingga omzet persh tambang Rare earth metal spt Palladium dll

Mengurangi emisi paling ampuh = Perbanyak Transportasi massal modern yang nyaman.....setuju ?

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wah kalo batre yang udah berat aja mau disubmerge ke mineral oil, mau berapa berat itu satu set batre nanti
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Turboman wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:15 Kalo di otomotif, EV welcome, tapi harusnya ICE tetap diproduksi saja, jangan ada phase out ICE, biarkan masyarakat memilih produk yg dirasa paling pas

Juga soal std emisi, dari Euro 2 ke Euro 6 saya percaya itu lebih banyak unsur bisnisnya.....mobil2 yg Euro 6 pake perangkat pengurang emisi bejibun, meningkatkan omzet produsen parts hingga omzet persh tambang Rare earth metal spt Palladium dll

Mengurangi emisi paling ampuh = Perbanyak Transportasi massal modern yang nyaman.....setuju ?

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sbenernya kita kita ini argumennya jg gitu om. udah kalo emang EV bagus ya biarin aja bersaing di free market. mang ada gitu dulu steve jobs nyuruh govt buat phase out hape jadul. :big_bored: kaga kan, marketnya yang beralih sendiri.

lagian bener deh mau di phase out emang bisa? emang realistis? krn buat bisnis ongkos produksi ICE tuh sampai saat ini tetep lebih murah. seringnya kan mikir indonesia cuma jakarta tok. pdhl bayangin di desa desa dipaksa pake EV, gak pusing tuh mau charging harus berjam-jam ke jalan gede.

oh jelas makanya saya ngelepas tuh CC di mobil bikin umur komponen mesin makin cepet kalah aja. udah tarikan bolot komponen2 lain cepet kalah gegara panas. DPF dah terbukti makin kesini klo bikin rusak mesin di luar.

selain transport massal arsitektur kota dibenahi, population control jg perlu om. manusia bernapas aja tuh dah mencemari lingkungan. jgn dikira emisi tuh dari kendaraan bermotor aja.
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banglontong wrote:wah kalo batre yang udah berat aja mau disubmerge ke mineral oil, mau berapa berat itu satu set batre nanti
EV EV yg skg pun rata2 Liquid cooled utk batere nya

cuman pake Coolant yg utk Radiator

sekaligus dinginin inverter & Elec Motor

maka itu di depan ada radiator & Elec Fan

tapi yg saya bingung, rata2 gak pake Grill bolong

padahal ada Kondensor AC & Radiator yg butuh aliran angin dr depan

aneh tuh pabrikan2 mobil

ha ha ha
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