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Rare w123.. credit buat om DR di bbm grup ane..

Om rubble, hydrak itu apa hehehe..
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newrubble wrote: hanya satu x ini classic centre setuju major technical swap n mgkn u bikin manusia paling awam benz di planet ini faham bhw itu half hearted-ly approved maka di buat norak bgt

mobil ini di simpan di basement rumah habibie di patrajasa n parkir persis sebelah 1999 ford ka yg lbh norak dr itu (ford ka beli di eropa n masih atas nama almh istri nya)

org luar yg bole sentuh n paling sering bawa gullwing ini. ..alm firman gani n sy untung saat gullwing ini dibawa pulang firman ke rumah nya di panglima polim...sy ikut di sebelah nya n rasanya seperti w-124 300ce (gullwing ini pakai dual airbag n abs)
Tunggu [emoji15] [emoji15] jd om rubble perna liat n naik Gullwing "meja dolmen" gado2 itu

Penasaran...bisa di describekah gimana itu dalemannya dll

Dulunya putih ya masa di atas pohon...penasaran ane pas pengangkatan dr suku kubu nya itu dan part2 nempel kan dicopot n disimpan sampai sekarang itu dimana ya
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hydrak clutch jaman skrg itu di korea namanya auto clutch

manual shift without clutch pedal tapi tetap gearbox di iisi AT fluid. populer in 1950s saat jerman tiarap n amerika berdiri diatas punggung mereka
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newrubble wrote:ponton 180 (1957) taxi edition

hydrak clutch

believe...was the only one in indo (now already relocated somewhere EU)

pics taken by mang kliwon's nokia (maaf jelek pic resolution). tapi satu pair hella driving lamps itu mmg asli nya trmsk original bulb yg blm pernah putis dr baru...believe it or not

saat dibawa dr solo ke fedex cargo center di cgk airport jkt sy sempatkan mampir nv mass tiga hari u final check up n saat hr ketiga mobil klaar n sy ambil ternyata di sana sdh kumpul lima org pensiunan montir (sy lupa nama nama nya) n mrk yg tesisa dari para montir yg pernah training hydrak di permorin th 1960 (kata mrk) dgn pertanyaan sama...knp dijual n sy tdk perlu jawap

begini mobil dgn lbh dr dua juta km on odo dgn score...tiga x engine overhaul...sekedar ganti gaskets sblm ada leakage

current owner senang dpt yg original trmsk cabin carpet n sy juga senang mobil di habitat yg benar. disana parts bgt byk
Bedanya ponton taxi edition dgn ponton biasa apa ya om?

Dulunya dipake taxi di Indonesia? Kok cuma tinggal 1 om?
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amfibi wrote: 230E... Sebagian orang bilang mobil nanggung soalnya mercy tapi CC kecil... Tapi tetep W124 memang tiada duanya soal aura & kharisma nya :mky_02:

Wah masa kecilnya sama 230E om? pas tahun kapan tuh? :D
Knp pilih 230e krn dlu ngeri sama 6silinder yang terkenal boros itu tp ya jdnya lelet.... Bokap Dlu ambil bkas taun 99an om.. Kandidatnya dlu E36, W202 janda muda ato w124.tp entah knp angkatnya W124.
Bbrp taun lalu pengen cb angkat w210 kok keliatan lbh ringkih panel2nya padahal exteriornya demen bgt si W210 ini..
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210 dan 203 mah ngga kualitas mercy.. bukan kata ane tp kata org2 gila jerman di german car forum, mbworld dan benzworld.. maaf bagi usernya.. :)
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beda ponton taxi dg regular ada di upholstery meskipun cabin carpeting tetap wool material

di jkt th 1961 masuk 1,000units u asian games1962...500units 180 (250:250 petrol vs diesel) n sisanya 190 dgn proporsi petrol vs diesel sama byk...pas asian games1962 semua supir harus mahasiswa yg bisa bahasa inggris. hydrak type ada skitar 100unots husus u supir perempuan. semua unots warna hitam n LHD n dibeli seharga DM 750 after huge discount krn new old stocks atau saat itu equal to rp.75,000 taxfree. under management of ppd limousines sampai thn 1969 dgn flagdown tariff rp.5 dan additional rp.1 per km atau per 10menit waiting

tiap unots sdh lengkap dgn waterproof mechanical argometer "bruhm" terpasangbpd fender kiri dekat turning light

thn 1969 semua dijual ke public seharga rp.25,000 diganti dgn dodge FC spacevan (500 units) 1,500cc 4cyl husus jakarta-bandung v.v. route masih under ppd limousines. imported by djakarta motor (semua dual tone light blue-ocean blue dgn red interior); 500units lagi diganti chrysler valiant regal warna khaki operated under "ratax" (radio taxi) dan ada tambahan 100units tyt corona t40 in black imported by nv mass operated under djakarta city cab (subsidiary of djawatan ppd)
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Nightster Guy wrote:210 dan 203 mah ngga kualitas mercy.. bukan kata ane tp kata org2 gila jerman di german car forum, mbworld dan benzworld.. maaf bagi usernya.. :)
203,210,220 mungkin masih galaunya Mercedes..wkwk. mau nanya Om NG cikal bakal Chrylser nimbrung sama Daimler itu gara2 apa ya om?
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newrubble wrote:
........."dulu org bgt senang shifting up n down dgn tangan tetap at steering wheel tapi skrg proton sj sdh pakai tehnologi bgt apalagi brands lain
Wah pantas Benz skrg tuas transmisi nya pindah ke kolom setir semua, ternyata ada sejarahnya...
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Nightster Guy wrote:210 dan 203 mah ngga kualitas mercy.. bukan kata ane tp kata org2 gila jerman di german car forum, mbworld dan benzworld.. maaf bagi usernya.. :)
Hati-hati oom.. Ada yang freak banget dengan MB yang menurutnya progress MB selalu meningkat diiii segala sisi.. Jadi salah kalau bilang mercy yang versi baru ada yang lebih jelek dari yang lama... Uwkwkwk

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newrubble wrote:beda ponton taxi dg regular ada di upholstery meskipun cabin carpeting tetap wool material

di jkt th 1961 masuk 1,000units u asian games1962...500units 180 (250:250 petrol vs diesel) n sisanya 190 dgn proporsi petrol vs diesel sama byk...pas asian games1962 semua supir harus mahasiswa yg bisa bahasa inggris. hydrak type ada skitar 100unots husus u supir perempuan. semua unots warna hitam n LHD n dibeli seharga DM 750 after huge discount krn new old stocks atau saat itu equal to rp.75,000 taxfree. under management of ppd limousines sampai thn 1969 dgn flagdown tariff rp.5 dan additional rp.1 per km atau per 10menit waiting

tiap unots sdh lengkap dgn waterproof mechanical argometer "bruhm" terpasangbpd fender kiri dekat turning light

thn 1969 semua dijual ke public seharga rp.25,000 diganti dgn dodge FC spacevan (500 units) 1,500cc 4cyl husus jakarta-bandung v.v. route masih under ppd limousines. imported by djakarta motor (semua dual tone light blue-ocean blue dgn red interior); 500units lagi diganti chrysler valiant regal warna khaki operated under "ratax" (radio taxi) dan ada tambahan 100units tyt corona t40 in black imported by nv mass operated under djakarta city cab (subsidiary of djawatan ppd)

masa2 keemasan ppd ya om..... sekarang........... :mky_04:
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glendotan wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:210 dan 203 mah ngga kualitas mercy.. bukan kata ane tp kata org2 gila jerman di german car forum, mbworld dan benzworld.. maaf bagi usernya.. :)
203,210,220 mungkin masih galaunya Mercedes..wkwk. mau nanya Om NG cikal bakal Chrylser nimbrung sama Daimler itu gara2 apa ya om?
Setau sy sih si jurgen punya ide om..

Kasian, org nya udah lama pensiun, tetep aja msh dimaki2 :wkkk: salah 1nya di official tridnya w222 di GCF, saat mreka oot bentaran bahas 220.

Penerus jurgen, dieter zetsche aka dr z aka mr moustache skarang dipuji2 sbg org yg membawa mercedes back on the track.
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AD74YA wrote:
Nightster Guy wrote:210 dan 203 mah ngga kualitas mercy.. bukan kata ane tp kata org2 gila jerman di german car forum, mbworld dan benzworld.. maaf bagi usernya.. :)
Hati-hati oom.. Ada yang freak banget dengan MB yang menurutnya progress MB selalu meningkat diiii segala sisi.. Jadi salah kalau bilang mercy yang versi baru ada yang lebih jelek dari yang lama... Uwkwkwk

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Semua cm jargon yg implemented pd kultur perusahaan yg ujudnya adalah produk akhir.

Sejauh mana disparitas antara jargon vs produk, di sini imho poinnya.

Disparitas nol adalah keniscayaan kemustahilan selama dia msh buatan manusia hehehe..
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Lanjut dikit...
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Kasi umpan buat om rubble..

:mky_03:

Eagle lang yg ex ri 1 yg kaca bulletproof yg konon skarang di museum seorg kolektor sejati di cipete, om rubble tau sjarahnya? Yg konon posisi duduknya uda ngga simetris saking trlalu lama di garasi.

Kl gullwing herr habibie dan pullman BK aja om rubble tau dgn meticulously detailnya, apalagi kl 'cuma' eagle ex babe..

Waktu, tempat, dan mic kami persilakan om...

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daimlerchrysler merger berumur 9 may 1998 (seharga usd 38 milyard) sampai cerai tgl 15 may 2007 ( seharga usd 7.8 milyard) saat chrysler dibayar oleh cerberus capital management u seluruh 80.1% shares

program susut lemak yg (sblm gagal, 2007) bikin unted autoworkers union cukup happy krn tdk ada seorg pun dari 66,000 members mrk yg kena pecat. janji daimler wkt itu adalah ajarkan chrysler masuk ke segment mobil seharga usd 100k sedangkan janji chrysler saat itu adalah ajarkan daimlerbenz u masuk ke usd 11,000 carprice zone

daimler saat itu merasa diuntungkan krn bbrp lineup bisa masuk usdm sbg domestic cars secara ckd spt dodge sprinter sedangkan chrysler yg bleeding saat itu diberikan commitment tetap bisa in production bbrp lineups tanpa harus kluar duit u research n design temasuk grand cherokee based on benz gl class

cuma itu yg sy tau n lebih nya mbah ng yg lbh hafal
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Nightster Guy wrote:Kasi umpan buat om rubble..

Eagle lang yg ex ri 1 yg kaca bulletproof yg konon skarang di museum seorg kolektor sejati di cipete, om rubble tau sjarahnya? Yg konon posisi duduknya uda ngga simetris saking trlalu lama di garasi.

Kl gullwing herr habibie dan pullman BK aja om rubble tau dgn meticulously detailnya, apalagi kl 'cuma' eagle ex babe..

Waktu, tempat, dan mic kami persilakan om...:
ada hubungannya dgn rokok (surya wonowidjojo) jauh sblm mrk kasih kasih tiga units w140. tanya sj sama mrk brp mrk dpt tax discount saat itu. intinya sy ga tau byk yg bginian...yg jelas period itu rokok punya dia market leader dmn pun trmsk di istana istana diktator itu
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Jadi penasaran ane ama W140...sebagai one of the best Sacco's masterpiece dengan harga pasaran S320 dah 210an :mky_03:

Kira2 rawatnya bisa berapa ya :ungg: terhitung komponennya belum serumit W220 yg 12 tahun lebih akinya awet dan banyak hal mengejutkan lagi soal beberapa part yg ga mahal2 amat

penasaran :mky_03:
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Idem nih,saya bener2 seneng banget liat W140 elegant and very intimidating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qwmkom ... EnpHcNAefQ

penasaran apakah S600/600SEL ada di indonesia atau tidak :big_think:
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Just imho n cmiiw..

W140 ngga diakuin sacco sbg slh 1 masterpiecenya. Dgn penuh kehati2an dia pernah blg bahwa 'roofline w140 terlalu tinggi skitar 4 inches'.

Temen sy yg jagoan sotosop pernah sy minta ngechop atap w140 4 inci dan abbracadabra memang jd jauh lebih cakep dan sleek sperti predecessornya si w126.

Buat om valdarez, YUP, w140 s600/s600l v12 ada dlm garasi herr habibie dan sering beliau pakai kl lg kangen n jalan2 di indonesia.

Colek om rubble (lagi, hahaha..)

Sacco dlm sebuah interview sempat blg bahwa karya yg dia favoritkan adalah si w201.

Imho, design wise, masterpiece sacco adalah w126 dan r129. W126 widely regarded sbg s klasse tercantik spanjang masa hingga munculnya w222. R129, no further comment, sy rela membunuh demi dapat sl r129 haahahaha..
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Valdarez wrote:Idem nih,saya bener2 seneng banget liat W140 elegant and very intimidating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qwmkom ... EnpHcNAefQ

penasaran apakah S600/600SEL ada di indonesia atau tidak :big_think:
Tentu ada om, yang masuk sini kalo ga salah ex KTT... Salah satunya pernah dimuat di tabloid otomotif :mky_03:

6.0L V12... S class pertama bermesin V12... :ungg:
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1000 sel pun w126 family (pernah) ada di satu corner house jalanpati unus...diagonal dr rumah nya alm bustanil arifin (sblm corner house itu di bongkar) ...sering terlihat dr jalan parkir dlm pagar dpn teras selama thn 1988-1994
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Cmiiw om axala, mercy ktt 92 itu w140 s320l. Bukan s600. Cmiiw mudahan ada yg lbih tau validnya, sy berdasar ingatan saja hahaha..
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w140 maupun w126 (pernah) jadi fleet utk usaha rokok nya surya wonowidjojo. bahkan dia adalah fleet iser dgn quantity terbanyak di indo (jgn tanya sy ada brp units ya tapi tdk sampai 15 units). bbrp lwb
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Nightster Guy wrote:Just imho n cmiiw..

W140 ngga diakuin sacco sbg slh 1 masterpiecenya. Dgn penuh kehati2an dia pernah blg bahwa 'roofline w140 terlalu tinggi skitar 4 inches'.

Temen sy yg jagoan sotosop pernah sy minta ngechop atap w140 4 inci dan abbracadabra memang jd jauh lebih cakep dan sleek sperti predecessornya si w126.

Buat om valdarez, YUP, w140 s600/s600l v12 ada dlm garasi herr habibie dan sering beliau pakai kl lg kangen n jalan2 di indonesia.

Colek om rubble (lagi, hahaha..)

Sacco dlm sebuah interview sempat blg bahwa karya yg dia favoritkan adalah si w201.

Imho, design wise, masterpiece sacco adalah w126 dan r129. W126 widely regarded sbg s klasse tercantik spanjang masa hingga munculnya w222. R129, no further comment, sy rela membunuh demi dapat sl r129 haahahaha..
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Dam yupp emang si Sacco paling.kurang puas sama W140 ini... but still, W140 sonderklasse yg aristokrat kok :mky_03: (meskipun kurang cantik namun sangat berwibawa)

W201 190E... dulu om nya bokap (ex sekretaris militer era soeharto) pake tuh 190E... sayang dijual murah trus diganti C240 W203, yang ane rasa nggak sebanding dgn 190E ... :ungg: