Mitsu 4N15 Performance Update (MIVEC kicked in YO !)

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Jd untuk modif, 4n15 jauh lbh ekonomis ya dibanding 2gd. Klo 2gd mau naik power banyak berarti mesti ganti turbo y? Mungkin toyota mesti masukin 1gd buat lawan powernya anps.
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ERH wrote:Jd untuk modif, 4n15 jauh lbh ekonomis ya dibanding 2gd. Klo 2gd mau naik power banyak berarti mesti ganti turbo y? Mungkin toyota mesti masukin 1gd buat lawan powernya anps.
utk pabrikan sebesar toyota ...apa sih susah nya masukin 1gd

cuma kalo masukin 1gd , nanti harga nya melambung , ntar siapa yg mau beli , pasti gak laris :mky_01:
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ERH wrote:Jd untuk modif, 4n15 jauh lbh ekonomis ya dibanding 2gd. Klo 2gd mau naik power banyak berarti mesti ganti turbo y? Mungkin toyota mesti masukin 1gd buat lawan powernya anps.
bed dong bro, masa 2800cc dibandingin sama 2400cc. Kalau mau beli aja mesin 1gd impor swap engine sendiri toh plug and play kok :big_childish:
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colai wrote:
ERH wrote:Jd untuk modif, 4n15 jauh lbh ekonomis ya dibanding 2gd. Klo 2gd mau naik power banyak berarti mesti ganti turbo y? Mungkin toyota mesti masukin 1gd buat lawan powernya anps.
utk pabrikan sebesar toyota ...apa sih susah nya masukin 1gd

cuma kalo masukin 1gd , nanti harga nya melambung , ntar siapa yg mau beli , pasti gak laris :mky_01:
(berkaca pada innova 2700cc)
Sy liat yg versi thai, atoyot ngeluarin varian ANF berbeda dr tipe mesin : 2.8L (1GD), 2.7L (???), 2.4L (2GD). Kebalikan kayak di indo yg varian ANF nya cuman beda di aksesoris/fitur doang. Mgkn TAM bisa ikutin jejak atoyot thai, produksi varian VRZ mesin 1GD bagi customer yg brani bayar lebih buat mesin. Produksi di limited sesuai permintaan pasar. Sapa tau sbnerny peminatny bnyak. Laen kasus sama Innova. Innova kn MPV, jd orang awam mgkn pikir buat ap tenaga gede buat MPV, klo fortuner mobil SUV emang butu tenaga lebih :mky_03: ini cuman opini om yah.

Btw, back on topic, transmisi 8 percepatannya ANPS bner2 mantap. Sy sempet ditakut2in salah satu seles T di kota ane yg ngo : "mobil it napas2ny bakal pendek2 karna kebanyakan giginya, ketimbang 6 percepatan yg napas panjang2". Pas sy TD ANPS, sy akuin perpindahan gigi otomatisnya halus n cepat, nyaris gak kerasa klo lg bawa santay. Mgkn dgn 8 gigi bisa jauh lebih hemat BBM klo mw cruising di jalan tol (sayang di sumatera tol ny masi coming soon).
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Sy liat yg versi thai, atoyot ngeluarin varian ANF berbeda dr tipe mesin : 2.8L (1GD), 2.7L (???), 2.4L (2GD). Kebalikan kayak di indo yg varian ANF nya cuman beda di aksesoris/fitur doang. Mgkn TAM bisa ikutin jejak atoyot thai, produksi varian VRZ mesin 1GD bagi customer yg brani bayar lebih buat mesin. Produksi di limited sesuai permintaan pasar. Sapa tau sbnerny peminatny bnyak. Laen kasus sama Innova. Innova kn MPV, jd orang awam mgkn pikir buat ap tenaga gede buat MPV, klo fortuner mobil SUV emang butu tenaga lebih :mky_03: ini cuman opini om yah.

Btw, back on topic, transmisi 8 percepatannya ANPS bner2 mantap. Sy sempet ditakut2in salah satu seles T di kota ane yg ngo : "mobil it napas2ny bakal pendek2 karna kebanyakan giginya, ketimbang 6 percepatan yg napas panjang2". Pas sy TD ANPS, sy akuin perpindahan gigi otomatisnya halus n cepat, nyaris gak kerasa klo lg bawa santay. Mgkn dgn 8 gigi bisa jauh lebih hemat BBM klo mw cruising di jalan tol (sayang di sumatera tol ny masi coming soon).
klo TAM masukin fortie 1gd harga diatas fortie 4x4 sih berat juga jualannya.

kita tunggu aja performace update dari 2gd dan 4n15 selanjutnya. apa 2gd bisa sehebat 2kd.

klo 4n15 bisa sampai 300hpan dan mesin masih aman sih mantab banget dah. tambah ngiler sama ANPS dah jadinya :big_love:

Apalagi tambah 8 speed, mungkin bisa jadi SUV kencang dan irit nantinya :big_grin:
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Turboman wrote:Just MonsMax

and nothing else

Koonon Turbo di set di 1,6 - 1,7 bar
Cuma pasang MonsMax kenaikan HP dan Torsinya WOW sekali :big_exellent:
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oom, penggunaan piggyback MonsMax, bikin void warranty pabrikan ga ya? kalo servis di BeRes masih bisa ya?
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marzoochi wrote:oom, penggunaan piggyback MonsMax, bikin void warranty pabrikan ga ya? kalo servis di BeRes masih bisa ya?
Kalo servis ke BeRes ya piggyback-nya di OFF kan saja, krn bila Piggyback nyala biasanya suara mesin agak sedikit beda

biasanya sih orang2 di BeRes juga gak ngecek2 ada - enggaknya piggyback
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Mantep nihhh...makin ileran ama ps baru..pake monmax aja sampe segitu tanpa upgrade apa2....Remnya juga kayanya ga perlu upgrade ya..kalipernya uda cukup gede dibanding yang lama kayanya...2 tahun lagi harusnya researchnya uda maksimal nih tembus 300 hp makin ngeri kalo ketemu ni boil di jalanan :mky_03:
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Re: Mitsu 4N15 Performance Update (MIVEC kicked in YO !)

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Waduh sadis bgt neh..lbh murah dan bagus mana om turboman pake monsmax atau super 4?
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gile torsi segede gitu, mesti pasang LSD kayanya, juga pasang jangkar buat emergency braking system, not to mention, better n grippier rear tyre, ga kebayang aja pas belok tajem, toel gas, jalanan basah...
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kunaskun wrote:gile torsi segede gitu, mesti pasang LSD kayanya, juga pasang jangkar buat emergency braking system, not to mention, better n grippier rear tyre, ga kebayang aja pas belok tajem, toel gas, jalanan basah...
Counter steering biar nge-drift Om, tp iya kalau nge-slide. Kalo roll over ya udah, nasibnya kaya kecoa kebalik..

*kodrat mobil gak bisa bohong*
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paidjho wrote:
kunaskun wrote:gile torsi segede gitu, mesti pasang LSD kayanya, juga pasang jangkar buat emergency braking system, not to mention, better n grippier rear tyre, ga kebayang aja pas belok tajem, toel gas, jalanan basah...
Counter steering biar nge-drift Om, tp iya kalau nge-slide. Kalo roll over ya udah, nasibnya kaya kecoa kebalik..

*kodrat mobil gak bisa bohong*
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reinhard_harley wrote:Waduh sadis bgt neh..lbh murah dan bagus mana om turboman pake monsmax atau super 4?
Nah kalo mesin kayak 4N15 ini pake piggyback high end si worthed

Mau pake piggy mana sesuaikan budget aja

Kalo mau yg paling ekonomis bisa pakai ECU S Cube, cuman naiknya gak setinggi Super 4 atau MonsMax
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Nah kalo mesin kayak 4N15 ini pake piggyback high end si worthed

Mau pake piggy mana sesuaikan budget aja

Kalo mau yg paling ekonomis bisa pakai ECU S Cube, cuman naiknya gak setinggi Super 4 atau MonsMax
wah, mantab ni 4n15, ud bisa 265hp
apa bedanya pake super 4 dengan monsmax ya om turbo?
itu dua2nya dari ecu shop kan y?
belum ada yang pake dastek y?
kayanya ga lama lagi beneran ada ANPS 300hp ni
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Super 4 itu adiknya MonsMax.....alias MonsMax yg versi sederhana

Main FRP & Inj pulse juga

kalo Cube cuman maen FRP
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denger2 ini ANPS ada DPF nya. harus ganti downpipe + remap ulang kah?
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mr_mytplx wrote:denger2 ini ANPS ada DPF nya. harus ganti downpipe + remap ulang kah?
Katalik doang

Mobil Diesel versi APM di sini mana ada lah yg pake DPF
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ic. tks banyak onponya om turbo. :)
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ERH wrote:Jd untuk modif, 4n15 jauh lbh ekonomis ya dibanding 2gd. Klo 2gd mau naik power banyak berarti mesti ganti turbo y? Mungkin toyota mesti masukin 1gd buat lawan powernya anps.
Ada ralat dari postingan ane sebelumnya

Konon 1GD bisa sampe 300 hp

Turbo 1GD bisa ke 1,7 bar....tapi itu spike-nya.....jadi set naek nya ke 1,6 bar.....

Tapi Pompa injeksi-nya ini yg problem utama........pas2-an......di push tinggi2 BOLLL.........

Keterbatasan 2GD dan 1GD ya di pompa injeksi.......krn sistem CRD nya agak beda, mrk dah main 1900 - 2200 bar std nya, pompa injeksi-nya std nya udah kerja dgn pressure yg sgt tinggi

Kalo soal peningkatan performa 2GD dibanding 2KD VNT sih jauuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...................2KD VNT mah bisa ke 280 hp dgn entenggggg

Well kalo ada mau experimen 2GD coba naekkin sampe tinggi banget ya monggo coba aja, tapi ya kita sarankan hati2........kalo udah masuk 215 hp coba naekkinnya dikit2 dulu, sambil liat bagaimana kondisi mesin / pompa injeksi-nya......dan stop jika mulai terlihat tanda2 nggak kondusif.......jangan diteruskan lagi

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Ada ralat dari postingan ane sebelumnya

Konon 1GD bisa sampe 300 hp

Turbo 1GD bisa ke 1,7 bar....tapi itu spike-nya.....jadi set naek nya ke 1,6 bar.....

Tapi Pompa injeksi-nya ini yg problem utama........pas2-an......di push tinggi2 BOLLL.........

Keterbatasan 2GD dan 1GD ya di pompa injeksi.......krn sistem CRD nya agak beda, mrk dah main 1900 - 2200 bar std nya, pompa injeksi-nya std nya udah kerja dgn pressure yg sgt tinggi

Kalo soal peningkatan performa 2GD dibanding 2KD VNT sih jauuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...................2KD VNT mah bisa ke 280 hp dgn entenggggg

Well kalo ada mau experimen 2GD coba naekkin sampe tinggi banget ya monggo coba aja, tapi ya kita sarankan hati2........kalo udah masuk 215 hp coba naekkinnya dikit2 dulu, sambil liat bagaimana kondisi mesin / pompa injeksi-nya......dan stop jika mulai terlihat tanda2 nggak kondusif.......jangan diteruskan lagi

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mantab om turbo info nya.
tinggal tunggu waktu aja d nantinya 2gd bisa seberapa naiknya.
mungkin nanti ada kit untuk injection pump nya biar kuat.
sebenernya klo dapet 210hp untuk mobil fortie or inova sih uda cukukp banget.
dulu pake inova diesel manual, pakai dastek naik jadi 145hp an aja rasanya uda enak, jauh dibanding std, cuma manual ga enak top speed nya paling 140an, itu aja suara mesin ud kenceng banget.
skrg pakai fortie, pakai map paling kenceng jg klo di tol aja, klo dalkot map nmr 2 ud cukup lah.
sebenernya klo liat hp nya aja, 4n15 ini ya ga lebih hebat dr 2kd ya, tapi 8 speed nya itu bikin ngiri. dibanding vnt saya yang cuma 4 speed :big_cry:
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htannis wrote:tadi baru ngobrol langsung sama tunernya, katanya 255hp ini masih bisa naik lagi jauh cuman dia belum berani sementara ini, itu baru 1.7 bar, info turbo nya kuat dipake 2 bar, kalau 2 bar bisa deket ke 300hp :big_grin: Kalau 2gd dah mentok pake ecushop 210hp :wkkk:
Turbo bawaan 4N15 pake turbo apa om?
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Turbo nya konon Mitsu TF 035

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Woww.. Masih sisa 8 bulan lg sebelum keliatan pemenang sebenernya 2GD vs 4N15..
Sabar sabar jangan spk dulu....... :e-shifty:


Yg jd masalah, kg ada line-up mitsu (4N15) yg sekelas inova sih.
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