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Re: Ganti air radiator beda merk

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DOHC wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:06 Coolant bawaan honda yg warna biru itu bagus pake banget malah, saya aj nyesel pas 40 rebu ud d drain... yg coolant warna ijo nya malah ampas.. ampe dktawain ama mbah omni saya gara2 kecepetan drain nya
Saya kemaren kuras di KM 80rb sih di CRV. So far so good pake coolant nya TMO skg ini
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yanuarra wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:27
Emg ada mbah? :big_biglaugh:
ada, yg mobilnya vrz. trus dibawa jalan dibenerin ke SnD.
di tret mana udah lupa ane.
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omnyanaira wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:32 Penasaran aja knapa gda yg tertarik pke coolant bawaan mobil. Kya misal coolant suzuki yg kandungan nya 50:50.
Atau coolant tipe 1 nya honda yg ga tau brp perbandingan komposisi air banding coolant ya
Apakah ga cukup mumpuni utk dipke 1 tahun atau 20k km?? Sebusuk itu kah kualitas coolant oem nya?
Klo olinya siih emang not worth overprice
Apakah coolant nya jg demikian??
Saya masih pake coolant bawaan mobil, coolant suzuki di splash. Sofar bagus, bolak balik palembang bekasi udah 2x, geber 140-150km/jam terus ga berkurang
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Omnibus wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:02
yanuarra wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:27
Emg ada mbah? :big_biglaugh:
ada, yg mobilnya vrz. trus dibawa jalan dibenerin ke SnD.
di tret mana udah lupa ane.
kok bisa ya..diy itu mbah? :mky_01:
Rasanya gmn ya itu at fluid diganti oli mesin :mky_05:
Penasaran :wkkk:
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yanuarra wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 3:42
kok bisa ya..diy itu mbah? :mky_01:
Rasanya gmn ya itu at fluid diganti oli mesin :mky_05:
Penasaran :wkkk:
ga dituang oli mesin mbah. cuma pas buka drain plug salah buka, harusnya engine drain plug ini malah buka atf drain plug. tp orgnya langsung nyadar kl itu salah buka plug.
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masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,



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adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
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marmut wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 15:10 masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,




IMG20210426140749.jpg




adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
karet kecil di tutupnya itu mana? nyemplung ke dalem kali nyusul pak gentong.
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marmut wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 15:10 masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,




IMG20210426140749.jpg




adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
Katup plastik nya getas dan putus

Klasik itu

Kejadian 2 kali di kijang saya ama jess saya dl
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Omnibus wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 15:24
karet kecil di tutupnya itu mana? nyemplung ke dalem kali nyusul pak gentong.
DOHC wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 15:49
Katup plastik nya getas dan putus

Klasik itu

Kejadian 2 kali di kijang saya ama jess saya dl


nah... bener.
nyemplung.
kelar dah urusan.

sebelum ini, nemu persis di 2GR juga sama. untungnya si klep plastik ga bisa kecemplung karena ketahan tempat duduknya.
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DOHC wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:06 Coolant bawaan honda yg warna biru itu bagus pake banget malah, saya aj nyesel pas 40 rebu ud d drain... yg coolant warna ijo nya malah ampas.. ampe dktawain ama mbah omni saya gara2 kecepetan drain nya
nyang biru itu yg coolant honda yg 108rb per liter om? long life coolant namanya?
waktu itu sy pernah beli 108rb per liter. beli 4l, diskon 5%
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Poporing wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 17:02
DOHC wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:06 Coolant bawaan honda yg warna biru itu bagus pake banget malah, saya aj nyesel pas 40 rebu ud d drain... yg coolant warna ijo nya malah ampas.. ampe dktawain ama mbah omni saya gara2 kecepetan drain nya
nyang biru itu yg coolant honda yg 108rb per liter om? long life coolant namanya?
waktu itu sy pernah beli 108rb per liter. beli 4l, diskon 5%
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marmut wrote:masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,



IMG20210426140749.jpg



adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
Omnibus wrote:
marmut wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 15:10 masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,




IMG20210426140749.jpg




adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
karet kecil di tutupnya itu mana? nyemplung ke dalem kali nyusul pak gentong.
Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
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indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:27
marmut wrote:masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,




IMG20210426140749.jpg




adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
Omnibus wrote:
marmut wrote: Mon Apr 26, 2021 15:10 masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,




IMG20210426140749.jpg




adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
karet kecil di tutupnya itu mana? nyemplung ke dalem kali nyusul pak gentong.
Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
Nubie per mobilan tp master maling delko d parkiran musatek numpang jawap ya


Tergantung mobil nya

Kl kaya toyota2 atau honda2 lokal, daihatsu.. ganti aj tiap 2-3 taon, murah koq , d atrium ga ampe goban.. dan jgn sering2 dbuka tutup kl ga perlu

Tp kl yg batu makam punya, itu bagus punya tuh, bsa ampe 5 taon gapapa
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indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:27 Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
tiap ganti coolant dong ..... alias setaun sekali bareng perpanjang PKB spt mbah delko :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
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DOHC wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:52
indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:27
marmut wrote:masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,




IMG20210426140749.jpg




adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
Omnibus wrote:
karet kecil di tutupnya itu mana? nyemplung ke dalem kali nyusul pak gentong.
Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
Nubie per mobilan tp master maling delko d parkiran musatek numpang jawap ya


Tergantung mobil nya

Kl kaya toyota2 atau honda2 lokal, daihatsu.. ganti aj tiap 2-3 taon, murah koq , d atrium ga ampe goban.. dan jgn sering2 dbuka tutup kl ga perlu

Tp kl yg batu makam punya, itu bagus punya tuh, bsa ampe 5 taon gapapa
Harganya beda mbah...
Yg pny lipindut itu 250 rebuan tp ngga tau apa sama yg pny denso itu.
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Omnibus wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 14:04
indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:27 Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
tiap ganti coolant dong ..... alias setaun sekali bareng perpanjang PKB spt mbah delko :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
Bukannya nunggu hasil test pressure dulu ya mbah shifu plop?
Paling mudah cek gasketnya dulu apakah sdh ngembang atau msh bagus.
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DOHC wrote:
indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:27
marmut wrote:masih ada hubungannya dengan radiator dan airnya,




IMG20210426140749.jpg




adakah yang aneh dari gambar ini?
Omnibus wrote: karet kecil di tutupnya itu mana? nyemplung ke dalem kali nyusul pak gentong.
Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
Nubie per mobilan tp master maling delko d parkiran musatek numpang jawap ya


Tergantung mobil nya

Kl kaya toyota2 atau honda2 lokal, daihatsu.. ganti aj tiap 2-3 taon, murah koq , d atrium ga ampe goban.. dan jgn sering2 dbuka tutup kl ga perlu

Tp kl yg batu makam punya, itu bagus punya tuh, bsa ampe 5 taon gapapa
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indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:27 Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
tiap ganti coolant dong ..... alias setaun sekali bareng perpanjang PKB spt mbah delko :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
Lho kok lain sarannya hahaha... Siap dicatat mbah2 suhu. [emoji106][emoji120]
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Misal tutup radiator ane pake yang 127kPa atau 1.3 bar, kira2 kalau diganti ke tutup yg pressurenya lebih kecil bagaimana ya? Kayak yang 1.1 bar.

Apa efeknya?
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sintoni wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 15:07 Misal tutup radiator ane pake yang 127kPa atau 1.3 bar, kira2 kalau diganti ke tutup yg pressurenya lebih kecil bagaimana ya? Kayak yang 1.1 bar.

Apa efeknya?
Kalau berdasar kalkulator di sini sih: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boil ... d_926.html katanya bakal ngurangin titik didih sebanyak 2,9º C ya

2,3 atm -> titik didihnya 125,1º C
2,1 atm -> titik didihnya 122,2º C
Selisihnya 2,9º C
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Taufiq6210 wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 22:41
sintoni wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 15:07 Misal tutup radiator ane pake yang 127kPa atau 1.3 bar, kira2 kalau diganti ke tutup yg pressurenya lebih kecil bagaimana ya? Kayak yang 1.1 bar.

Apa efeknya?
Kalau berdasar kalkulator di sini sih: https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boil ... d_926.html katanya bakal ngurangin titik didih sebanyak 2,9º C ya

2,3 atm -> titik didihnya 125,1º C
2,1 atm -> titik didihnya 122,2º C
Selisihnya 2,9º C
Efek ke mobil gimana om?

Itu itungannya pake coolant yg mana?
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indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 14:36
DOHC wrote:
indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:27 Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
Nubie per mobilan tp master maling delko d parkiran musatek numpang jawap ya


Tergantung mobil nya

Kl kaya toyota2 atau honda2 lokal, daihatsu.. ganti aj tiap 2-3 taon, murah koq , d atrium ga ampe goban.. dan jgn sering2 dbuka tutup kl ga perlu

Tp kl yg batu makam punya, itu bagus punya tuh, bsa ampe 5 taon gapapa
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indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 13:27 Kalau tutup radiator baiknya diganti tiap berapa lama/km mbah marmut, mbah ombi, mbah dohc dan mbah2 lainnya?
tiap ganti coolant dong ..... alias setaun sekali bareng perpanjang PKB spt mbah delko :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
Lho kok lain sarannya hahaha... Siap dicatat mbah2 suhu. [emoji106][emoji120]
Sebenernya ikut saran mbah masas jg gapapa seh om

Tutup radiator denso yg lokal itu murah pake banget

30-40an rebu doank

Setaon skali ga brasa lah
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DOHC wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:35
indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 14:36
DOHC wrote:
Nubie per mobilan tp master maling delko d parkiran musatek numpang jawap ya


Tergantung mobil nya

Kl kaya toyota2 atau honda2 lokal, daihatsu.. ganti aj tiap 2-3 taon, murah koq , d atrium ga ampe goban.. dan jgn sering2 dbuka tutup kl ga perlu

Tp kl yg batu makam punya, itu bagus punya tuh, bsa ampe 5 taon gapapa
Omnibus wrote:
tiap ganti coolant dong ..... alias setaun sekali bareng perpanjang PKB spt mbah delko :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
Lho kok lain sarannya hahaha... Siap dicatat mbah2 suhu. [emoji106][emoji120]
Sebenernya ikut saran mbah masas jg gapapa seh om

Tutup radiator denso yg lokal itu murah pake banget

30-40an rebu doank

Setaon skali ga brasa lah
Waduh.... Ada interpalnya ya.

Ogut biasa kalau dah mulai ada kek bekas coolant kering di sekitaran leher radiatornya baru ganti um. :ungg:
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josomba wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:05
DOHC wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:35
indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 14:36 Lho kok lain sarannya hahaha... Siap dicatat mbah2 suhu. [emoji106][emoji120]
Sebenernya ikut saran mbah masas jg gapapa seh om

Tutup radiator denso yg lokal itu murah pake banget

30-40an rebu doank

Setaon skali ga brasa lah
Waduh.... Ada interpalnya ya.

Ogut biasa kalau dah mulai ada kek bekas coolant kering di sekitaran leher radiatornya baru ganti um. :ungg:
Ehh ini cuman berlaku utk tutup yg buatan denso lokal loh mbah

Kaya toyota, daihatsu, honda, susuki lokal punya


Tp kl batu makam, masda punya jangan, itu 5 taon aj baru ganti, itu bagus punya soalnya
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DOHC wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:35
indeskey wrote: Tue Apr 27, 2021 14:36
DOHC wrote:
Nubie per mobilan tp master maling delko d parkiran musatek numpang jawap ya


Tergantung mobil nya

Kl kaya toyota2 atau honda2 lokal, daihatsu.. ganti aj tiap 2-3 taon, murah koq , d atrium ga ampe goban.. dan jgn sering2 dbuka tutup kl ga perlu

Tp kl yg batu makam punya, itu bagus punya tuh, bsa ampe 5 taon gapapa
Omnibus wrote:
tiap ganti coolant dong ..... alias setaun sekali bareng perpanjang PKB spt mbah delko :mky_03: :mky_03: :mky_03:
Lho kok lain sarannya hahaha... Siap dicatat mbah2 suhu. [emoji106][emoji120]
Sebenernya ikut saran mbah masas jg gapapa seh om

Tutup radiator denso yg lokal itu murah pake banget

30-40an rebu doank

Setaon skali ga brasa lah
padahal ik cuma asbun mau ledekin jij doang :big_weee:
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sintoni wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 0:16 Efek ke mobil gimana om?

Itu itungannya pake coolant yg mana?
Wah pertanyaan tentang efek ke mobil harusnya ditujukan ke suhu suhu di sini om...

Sepengetahuan nubie sih pengaruhnya bikin jarak antara temperatur kerja dan temperatur didih makin deket, semacam safety margin-nya berkurang lah. Karena kalau airnya sampai mendidih berarti ada kekosongan cairan di bagian itu dan jadi muncul hot spot.

Dulu pernah ngalamin bleedingan ga bener. Lagi jalan normal dengan temperatur 90º C, tiba tiba ada udara numpang lewat kebacanya jadi 110º C, begitu udah lewat udaranya, balik lagi ke 90º C. Itu sekedar udara terperangkap aja udah bikin suhu tinggi, apalagi kalau disebabkan karena mendidih, bisa-bisa nyampe lebih dari 140º C hot spot-nya.

Itu itungannya pake air biasa om, kalau pake coolant 30% ditambah 2,2º C dari air biasa, dan kalau pake coolant 50% tambah 5,5º C.