NEW VELOZ 2022!!

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Bibieight wrote:Kalo begini Venturer hampir setengah em super duper gila kemahalan yak ?
susah ngomong om kalo blm tau kekedapan kabin + feel bawa nya. semoga improvementnya kyk dulu gnki ke reborn ya, berasa beda banget pas bawa + duduk di kabin.

dan yang kedua, walau venturer lebih minim fitur, tapi interiornya tetep lebih mewah venturer jauh.
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Bibieight wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:04 Kalo begini Venturer hampir setengah em super duper gila kemahalan yak ?
Kalo dari sisi fitur ya jelas menang si veloz ini

Tapi ride quality, kualitas material & buatan, feel setirnya (solid, mantep, dll) mestinya masih bagusan venturer yaa

Kalo udah di garasi, bejibun fitur itu kadang bakal lupa, yang jadi perhatian dibawa jauh pegel apa ngga, mesin raung” apa ngga, mabok gak kalo di jalanan dsb
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ctopher7 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:21
Bibieight wrote:Kalo begini Venturer hampir setengah em super duper gila kemahalan yak ?
susah ngomong om kalo blm tau kekedapan kabin + feel bawa nya. semoga improvementnya kyk dulu gnki ke reborn ya, berasa beda banget pas bawa + duduk di kabin.

dan yang kedua, walau venturer lebih minim fitur, tapi interiornya tetep lebih mewah venturer jauh.
IMHO intinya ini perkara kelas mau sekeren apapun dan secanggih apapun dia ttp kelasnya LMPV
macam xpander dulu pertama keluar orang pada heboh bilang ia revolusioner nyatanya ttp aja kodratnya LMPV dg gubrak2 sbg ciri khasnya ... masih gak bisa ngejar innova impressinya meski dibanding rival sekelas memang lebih proper, tapi gak bisa bersaing sampai "loncat" kelas, toh kalau mau bikin yg selevel innova ujungnya waktu diriset malah jebul "kuda reborn" dg harga innova reborn hehehehehe
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Masih semi ladder frame atw udah full monokok ini?
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whitehorse4 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:42 Masih semi ladder frame atw udah full monokok ini?
Seharusnya sih full monokok om, mengingat mobil ini juga 'akhirnya' pake fwd.
Secara platform/sasis mobil ini sudah gak ada jejak avanza sama sekali, bisa dibilang veloz ini benar2 mobil yg berbeda dgn current gen avanza
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Kalo ama reborn diesel, jangan lupa fitur 14 km = 5150 rp wkwkwk
Ama kemampuan ngasepin di bukit2 toll semarang dan padaleunyi 😬
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Bner2 platform baru nih ya
Ga kyk avanza/xenia sama rush/terios sekarang yg masih pake platform yg sama dari jaman taruna dulu
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ctopher7 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:21
Bibieight wrote:Kalo begini Venturer hampir setengah em super duper gila kemahalan yak ?
susah ngomong om kalo blm tau kekedapan kabin + feel bawa nya. semoga improvementnya kyk dulu gnki ke reborn ya, berasa beda banget pas bawa + duduk di kabin.

dan yang kedua, walau venturer lebih minim fitur, tapi interiornya tetep lebih mewah venturer jauh.
Nah kalo masalah built quality sama ride ya bener menang Venturer jauh, maksud saya dah bayar Venturer hampir setengah M mbok ya baik dikit dikasih TSS, yang LMPV dah dikasih TSS masa yg Venturer diliwatin. Asal jangan Innova itu jadi dead end developmentnya si Toyota aja, alias dah mentok ndak dikembangin lagi :big_cry: :big_cry: :big_cry:
Kalo Perkara driving feel gimana2 si Toyota yagitudeh :mky_02: :mky_02: :mky_02: , mangkanya pas ambil G20 si sales bilang pas trial konsumen di Indo pembandingnya Camry, saya heran, diilawanin Lexus kek… :big_bored: :big_bored: :big_bored:
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mammtappp cihuyy

biarpi langsung mlempem, esblender mau gimana juga dah ga terlalu ngepek

Ampe pasarnya ras ama teri juga kesedot nih
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radius putar nya terpengaruh banyak nggak ya?
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Syauqi wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:37
whitehorse4 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:42 Masih semi ladder frame atw udah full monokok ini?
Seharusnya sih full monokok om, mengingat mobil ini juga 'akhirnya' pake fwd.
Secara platform/sasis mobil ini sudah gak ada jejak avanza sama sekali, bisa dibilang veloz ini benar2 mobil yg berbeda dgn current gen avanza
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Berarti sudah benar2 jadi city commuter ya... yg banyak dipakai ke kebun & non aspal terpaksa ambil rush/terios nih (karena kenalan² yg hari²nya di gunung lebih suka avanza daripada rush baru; lebih luas lah, lebih empuk lah, dll )
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imansyx wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:30 Buset pake Electric Park Brake ama TSS. Ngamuk dah ini toyota
yaaa ntar org bs2 ngamuk jg liat harganya....ngarep buat nuker yg lama...bgtu liat harga bs jadi diurungkan hahahhahaaa
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fitur naik kelas, harga semakin menggila...produsen makin cuan, konsumen makin "dipaksa" meres dompet...
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dsign1990 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:28
IMHO intinya ini perkara kelas mau sekeren apapun dan secanggih apapun dia ttp kelasnya LMPV
macam xpander dulu pertama keluar orang pada heboh bilang ia revolusioner nyatanya ttp aja kodratnya LMPV dg gubrak2 sbg ciri khasnya ... masih gak bisa ngejar innova impressinya meski dibanding rival sekelas memang lebih proper, tapi gak bisa bersaing sampai "loncat" kelas, toh kalau mau bikin yg selevel innova ujungnya waktu diriset malah jebul "kuda reborn" dg harga innova reborn hehehehehe
xpander itu keliatan sih mobil yang di konsepnya bagus tapi di produksinya terlalu banyak compromises. sepertinya ni mobil awalnya emang mau dibuat untuk mengincar kelas atasnya lmpv tapi dengan certain "penyesuaian" di parts yang akhirnya jadi ride gabruk gabruk ala lmpv. redaman suspensi aslinya enak tp berkat ukuran ban terlalu kecil dan ban eco ecoan jadi jatuhnya terlalu ngayun. kyknya ni mobil di konsepnya didesain buat pake ban/velg ukuran gede (liat dr profil ruang rodanya lebar banget).

selama mobil kelas gini pake ban low rolling resistance untuk economy dan suspensi belakang rigid axle / torsion beam sih kenyamanannya ya bakal segitu-segitu aja..... orang ban low rolling resistance itu didesain buat irit yang artinya less grip = hard compound = lebih tidak bisa meredam. belum lagi ukuran ban yang kurus-kurus berbanding ukuran body :ungg:

saya lama lama mikir deh emang jenis dan ukuran ban itu penentu utama mobil berasa nyaman atau tidak :ungg: soalnya kl berani modal ban mahal aja mobil murah bisa berasa kaya ganti mobil.
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akhirnya redesain yang cukup masiv juga buat avanza :off_good_job: , kayaknya menarik nih. Tapi mau nunggu info tentang powertrainnya dulu
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:big_childish: Andai saja diesel 🤔
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yang avanza biasa (1300cc) akan menyusul FWD ya ?
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Itu dari RWD ke FWD, mesinya diputar 90 derajat gitu ya?
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ilhami wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 13:08 Itu dari RWD ke FWD, mesinya diputar 90 derajat gitu ya?
kalo make NR-VE kyknya iya om, seperti di myvi/sirion
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kukuh4264 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:07 :big_childish: Andai saja diesel 🤔
Nah ini toh ..

Dulu pernah ada lmpv diesel , ud pada tumbang semua .. Spin & ertiga diesel ..

Perlu dibangkitkan lagi . Pake trans matic .
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ddyta27 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 14:55
nambah antrian di pom bensin ini.. lubangnya sebelah kiri 🤣
sebenernya pas mau ngisi bensin gak ngaruh lobang tangki kanan/kiri, selang pengisian mesin spbu panjang dan (tergantung mobil) di design untuk bisa "nyebrang." ane sendiri lobang tangki di kiri (prado trj150), tapi kebetulan mesin spbu bagian kanan antri puanjang, yowes ambil mesin spbu bagian kiri aja. isi full tank, akurat kok.

save antrian worth belasan menit.

dan yang tadi antri didepan ane malah pindah ke belakang ane :upss:
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katanya avanza terbaru pakai teknologi hybrid...

https://oto.detik.com/mobil/d-5783139/t ... ena-setrum

hybrid seperti apa ya
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KielConstantine wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 16:41
kukuh4264 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:07 :big_childish: Andai saja diesel 🤔
Nah ini toh ..

Dulu pernah ada lmpv diesel , ud pada tumbang semua .. Spin & ertiga diesel ..

Perlu dibangkitkan lagi . Pake trans matic .
Yah, kemakan dong market share si Ipah.
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ilhami wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:46 katanya avanza terbaru pakai teknologi hybrid...

https://oto.detik.com/mobil/d-5783139/t ... ena-setrum

hybrid seperti apa ya
Semua produk nya T, kedepan pasti ada hybrid nya. Sebagai salah satu fase sebelum E.

Kalo skema nya, mungkin lihat Duo RR hybrid dulu yg baru launch kmarin
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gadjahalphien wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:34
ilhami wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:46 katanya avanza terbaru pakai teknologi hybrid...

https://oto.detik.com/mobil/d-5783139/t ... ena-setrum

hybrid seperti apa ya
Semua produk nya T, kedepan pasti ada hybrid nya. Sebagai salah satu fase sebelum E.

Kalo skema nya, mungkin lihat Duo RR hybrid dulu yg baru launch kmarin
2022 2023 kayanya astra grup sama honda mulai gelontorin hibrid di kelas tengah2 ya om biar kompetitif, begitu juga LMPV hibrid yg udah direncanain