2021 Honda ZR-V, adik HRV penantang Raize-Rocky

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semoga dilengkapi dengan fitur EPB dan brake hold.
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3mul wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 14:56 Bodi seukuran brio, mesin 1.5 NA. Cocok buat fenboi yg kecewa dgn performa HRV 2022 non RS.
Malah bisa makan penjualan HRV nih
asal nda tumpang tindih aja om.. tar kayak brv case nya.
brv laku, di hajar hrv, pada pindah ke hrv, ndilalah hrv nya nggak delivery2.. jadi blunder brv nya overstock.
hrv dari antri 6 bulan.. mundur ke thn depan :ungg:
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epinjose wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 16:38 asal nda tumpang tindih aja om.. tar kayak brv case nya.
brv laku, di hajar hrv, pada pindah ke hrv, ndilalah hrv nya nggak delivery2.. jadi blunder brv nya overstock.
hrv dari antri 6 bulan.. mundur ke thn depan :ungg:
Itu sudah..
Kanibalisme sulit dihindari. Tp selama customer lari ke produk semerk, apm hepi2 aja.
BTW, hpm biasanya fokus produksi 1 tipe tiap bulan tapi gonta ganti. Misal Maret brv, April brio, Mei brv lagi. Jadi sering overstock di 1 tipe tapi dikompensasi di bulan berikutnya.
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3mul wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 23:15 Itu sudah..
Kanibalisme sulit dihindari. Tp selama customer lari ke produk semerk, apm hepi2 aja.
BTW, hpm biasanya fokus produksi 1 tipe tiap bulan tapi gonta ganti. Misal Maret brv, April brio, Mei brv lagi. Jadi sering overstock di 1 tipe tapi dikompensasi di bulan berikutnya.
paling makan market brio RS sama BRV E :big_think:
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b0ku wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 23:39
3mul wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 23:15 Itu sudah..
Kanibalisme sulit dihindari. Tp selama customer lari ke produk semerk, apm hepi2 aja.
BTW, hpm biasanya fokus produksi 1 tipe tiap bulan tapi gonta ganti. Misal Maret brv, April brio, Mei brv lagi. Jadi sering overstock di 1 tipe tapi dikompensasi di bulan berikutnya.
paling makan market brio RS sama BRV E :big_think:
Paling makan produk yg dashboardnya sama. :big_weee:
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mr_mytplx wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 0:29
Paling makan produk yg dashboardnya sama. :big_weee:
yang dashboardnya sama cuma BRV lagian sama brio ud beda basis juga belom tentu itu brio di terusin :big_biglaugh:

ini mini suv keluar honda tinggal liat aja kalo pasar brio abis sama ni mobil atau jadi low volume paling yang keluar amaze bisa males dia ngerubah pantatnya jadi hatchback :wkkk:
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Kayanya cuman pake pilihan engine 1.5 n/a ya … :big_bored:
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Honda yang sekarang di pikiran saya timpang tindih atau saling mengganti ya, terkesan pada satu produk. Keliatannya aja gitu..
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KielConstantine wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:41 Kayanya cuman pake pilihan engine 1.5 n/a ya … :big_bored:
Maunya 1.2 n/a? Jgn ngarep turbo2an lah pertamax mehong
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heiituaku wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:43
KielConstantine wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:41 Kayanya cuman pake pilihan engine 1.5 n/a ya … :big_bored:
Maunya 1.2 n/a? Jgn ngarep turbo2an lah pertamax mehong
Bau2nya yang keluar malah 1.2 n/a buat tipe entri level (klo misal ada pilihan 1.2 n/a dan 1.5 n/a) om

Turbo? Malah bakal ngebunuh hrv tipe bawah dan tipe e malah, lagian 1.0T 3cyl honda itu mesin baru (P series) yang butuh invest lagi buat HPM karena gak ada commonality dengan tipe lain
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ariswp wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 4:56 Bau2nya yang keluar malah 1.2 n/a buat tipe entri level (klo misal ada pilihan 1.2 n/a dan 1.5 n/a) om

Turbo? Malah bakal ngebunuh hrv tipe bawah dan tipe e malah, lagian 1.0T 3cyl honda itu mesin baru (P series) yang butuh invest lagi buat HPM karena gak ada commonality dengan tipe lain
Mesin honda turbo P series jarang banget, small cars fokus pake e:HEV sekarang platformnya.
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KielConstantine wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:41 Kayanya cuman pake pilihan engine 1.5 n/a ya … :big_bored:
ia bener..bocorannya si cma ada pilihan mesin 1.5 ,.. kayaknya mesin yg sama yg d pake brv hrv cityhatch.
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kentbertlee wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:44
KielConstantine wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:41 Kayanya cuman pake pilihan engine 1.5 n/a ya … :big_bored:
ia bener..bocorannya si cma ada pilihan mesin 1.5 ,.. kayaknya mesin yg sama yg d pake brv hrv cityhatch.
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Tapi kalo bobotnya ringan & sekompak raize sih bisa ngacir jg tuh .. 1.5L power 121ps palingan . Secara Raize turbo power kg sampe 100ps . Kalo kata fitra eri “terbesar dikelasnya” :big_grin:


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Maen range harga brp ya klo 1.5 na? Klo 1.2 na mgkn atas brio rs sampe overlap dgn brv tengah. Apa 1.5 dikasih 250an sampe 300an? Bunuh saudara sendiri lebih baik drpd lari ke tetangga
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Lucunya si small SUV ini walau jadi Honda 1.5 termurah (selain Mobilio S jaman purba) bisa jadi bakalan jadi Honda 1.5 NA paling ngacir yg masih dijual di Indonesia, secara City HB walaupun pendek tapi bongsor dan lebih berat, Mobilio lebih gede, apalagi BR-V, kalo HR-V gausah ditanya :mky_07:
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AR93 wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 14:02 Lucunya si small SUV ini walau jadi Honda 1.5 termurah (selain Mobilio S jaman purba) bisa jadi bakalan jadi Honda 1.5 NA paling ngacir yg masih dijual di Indonesia, secara City HB walaupun pendek tapi bongsor dan lebih berat, Mobilio lebih gede, apalagi BR-V, kalo HR-V gausah ditanya :mky_07:
Wah kalau yg keluar 1.5 beneran banyak yg bakal kena tembak nih di line up mrk sendiri : brio rs, brv, hrv s & city hatch
Secara global demand jg beralih dari mpv & sedan ke suv, emg jalan yg ancur & sering banjir bikin org shifting ke market ini
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1.5, 121hp, on compact body? wah akan ngacir sih.. tidak perlu turbo juga tak apa.. anggap aja brio yg ditinggikan, tapi ini 121hp..

rocky non turbo version 1.2 aja ngacir (dilihat dari power diatas kertas padahal kecil ya), apalagi body compact sebesar rocky tapi powernya 121hp..

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AR93 wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 14:02 Lucunya si small SUV ini walau jadi Honda 1.5 termurah (selain Mobilio S jaman purba) bisa jadi bakalan jadi Honda 1.5 NA paling ngacir yg masih dijual di Indonesia, secara City HB walaupun pendek tapi bongsor dan lebih berat, Mobilio lebih gede, apalagi BR-V, kalo HR-V gausah ditanya :mky_07:
sama kayak raize, lineup toyota under 500 yang paling kenceng jg raize. wkwkwkwkkw. ini lineup honda paling kenceng jg krn paling ringan tp pake 1.5L.

bahkan fortuner 2GD (standar) aja kalah. standar ya, standar, nanti soalnya lari kemana mana bilang tp fortuner kan bisa remep jadi 1000hp.

raize 0-100 9 detik gede, fortuner 2GD standar 12 detikan, 1GD standar aja kyknya masih di atas 10. toyota DCVT enak loh.
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ChZ wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:07
sama kayak raize, lineup toyota under 500 yang paling kenceng jg raize. wkwkwkwkkw. ini lineup honda paling kenceng jg krn paling ringan tp pake 1.5L.

bahkan fortuner 2GD (standar) aja kalah. standar ya, standar, nanti soalnya lari kemana mana bilang tp fortuner kan bisa remep jadi 1000hp.

raize 0-100 9 detik gede, fortuner 2GD standar 12 detikan, 1GD standar aja kyknya masih di atas 10. toyota DCVT enak loh.
kecil kenceng N/A lagi bisa lebih nikmat dari HRV turbo tinggal kasih steroid ke kaki2x dan biasanya partnya bejibun karena common sama model honda laen :mky_03:
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Apa mungkin mesin 1.5 tapi Atkinson cycle biar iritan
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banagher wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:52 Apa mungkin mesin 1.5 tapi Atkinson cycle biar iritan
Kalau melihat kebiasaan ahond yg share common parts sampe ke dashboard, IMHO kemungkinan itu kecil banget. Lagian keluarga L15 dah termasuk irit, apalagi dgn body kecil.
Selain itu, ahond butuh "power" lebih utk lawan raize / rocky yg unggul dgn DCVT nya dibanding CVT ahond.
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ChZ wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 4:07 sama kayak raize, lineup toyota under 500 yang paling kenceng jg raize. wkwkwkwkkw. ini lineup honda paling kenceng jg krn paling ringan tp pake 1.5L.

bahkan fortuner 2GD (standar) aja kalah. standar ya, standar, nanti soalnya lari kemana mana bilang tp fortuner kan bisa remep jadi 1000hp.

raize 0-100 9 detik gede, fortuner 2GD standar 12 detikan, 1GD standar aja kyknya masih di atas 10. toyota DCVT enak loh.
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Mantep emang fortuner…. Sekali remap tuh mesin bisa buat gerakin robot pacific rim :big_weee:


Btw model2 mobil under 300jt gini pasti dikasih pilihan trans manual sama si ahons . Kita liat aja bakal kek gimana deh dijalanan klo ud beredar .

Tuh kia sonet makin tenggelem aja kali :big_biglaugh:
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KielConstantine wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:44 :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:



Mantep emang fortuner…. Sekali remap tuh mesin bisa buat gerakin robot pacific rim :big_weee:


Btw model2 mobil under 300jt gini pasti dikasih pilihan trans manual sama si ahons . Kita liat aja bakal kek gimana deh dijalanan klo ud beredar .

Tuh kia sonet makin tenggelem aja kali :big_biglaugh:
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KielConstantine wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:55
kentbertlee wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:44
KielConstantine wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:41 Kayanya cuman pake pilihan engine 1.5 n/a ya … :big_bored:
ia bener..bocorannya si cma ada pilihan mesin 1.5 ,.. kayaknya mesin yg sama yg d pake brv hrv cityhatch.
:big_think:


Tapi kalo bobotnya ringan & sekompak raize sih bisa ngacir jg tuh .. 1.5L power 121ps palingan . Secara Raize turbo power kg sampe 100ps . Kalo kata fitra eri “terbesar dikelasnya” :big_grin:


dan yg paling penting sedunia akhirat: bisa colok pertalite :mrgreen:
ini bener banget, asal bisa di cekokin pertalite di jamin laris deh :big_biglaugh:

di jaman harga BBM edan begini beli mobil yg bisa minum pertalite itu pasti jadi pilihan banyak orang
daripada turbo2an kenceng2an ujung2nya kena macet2an juga tapi harus pertabo, mending asal tenaga cukupan aja tapi running cost murah lebih oke
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b0ku wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:49
KielConstantine wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:44 :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh:



Mantep emang fortuner…. Sekali remap tuh mesin bisa buat gerakin robot pacific rim :big_weee:
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