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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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zzzprince wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:24 90987-T2001 harga 565rb mbah
beneran ya segituan. ga jadi d. bisa beli minangsuang punya selusin :big_biglaugh:
zzzprince wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:15 Kira kira mana yang palsu mbah?
kiri mbah, setelah dicermati posisi huruf2 banyak yang offset
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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blloewy wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 13:03 Nubie nyimak dan coba nebak yg made in germany yg palsu mbah :big_peace:
MSU wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 23:59 kiri yg palsu?
Omnibus wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 0:07 kayanya sih kiri yg palsu ya om
singachu wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 0:45 kiri buatannya jelek ( kalau liat foto )
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DOHC wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:45 Kiri
kunaskun wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:28 kiri mbah, setelah dicermati posisi huruf2 banyak yang offset


waduhh pada vote kiri euy, mana kemarin langsung beli 6pcs
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singachu wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 0:44
eh, ane kok ga ada kendala ama suara klakson ya ?
Mbah punya yang bawaannya sudah 2 klakson atau 1 klakson ?
aki ku malah masih bawaan 35 Ah dari taon 2019 sampe skrg blom ganti. Masih kenceng klaksonnya dan stabil


Nah kalau ganti lampu rem/belakang sejak baca2 di grup ipah dsb kejadian seperti yang mbah bilang,
makanya udah ga pingin otak atik lampu belakang, btw di aerio aku juga ga ganti lampu belakang, dan semua lampunya mari original pabrik lho, awet juga ya padahal lampu pijar. (lampu depan tapi udah pada putus).
Termasuk kontak ACC lupa matikan bisa mati sendiri ( model start stop engine )

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punya ane 1 klakson dari lahir mbah. Ganti aki ngejar supaya maintenance free aja gak bolak balik isi aer aki, sekalian nyoba siapa tau suara klakson makin garang... tapi kayanya posisi penempatan klakson jg pengaruh ya, di GNKI barong posisi klaksonnya dedicated banget di atas bullbar, beda sama avxen yang cuma ditaro di plat tipis bagian support bullbar

kalo lampu rem konon katany karna yg abal2 gak ada resistornya, jadi tiap ngerem bcm gak baca kita ngerem, tapi speed ngelambat karna mobil sebetulnya ngerem, dianggap sensor problem... gitu
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:36
blloewy wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 13:03 Nubie nyimak dan coba nebak yg made in germany yg palsu mbah :big_peace:
MSU wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 23:59 kiri yg palsu?
Omnibus wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 0:07 kayanya sih kiri yg palsu ya om
singachu wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 0:45 kiri buatannya jelek ( kalau liat foto )
regards,
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DOHC wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:45 Kiri
waduhh pada vote kiri euy, mana kemarin langsung beli 6pcs
kalo relay....dulu pengalaman pas piara merk singa...merk umum kayak gini & B**ch banyak palsu mbah
dipake sebentar udh error
paling aman beli ori di toko sparepart singa..merk valeo atau cartier kl ga salah...amannn
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Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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DOHC wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 14:30 kl d agya saya seh sejak dipakein relay aftermarket malah jd sembuh klakson naek turun nya (kcuali kl di pencet di bagian tertentu aj)

avxen masi mending dikasi relay integrated mbah, lah itu agya ayla 1000 cc lebi pelit lagi paket hemat nya, klakson ga dipakein relay samsek, sinting, mentang2 cuman dikasi sebiji doank klakson nya
agya nya 1kr mbah? berarti taonnya masih sepantaran sama avanza gen 2 tapi mesin k3 yaa.. ringkes tapi awet bener sparepartnya itu pada

coba yg 3nr mbah dah kaya lekses, pake keyless terus dah pake bcm2 an intgrated2 relay segala, ada buzzer nya juga kalo lupa lupa sesuatu
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Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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MSU wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:42 kalo relay....dulu pengalaman pas piara merk singa...merk umum kayak gini & B**ch banyak palsu mbah
dipake sebentar udh error
paling aman beli ori di toko sparepart singa..merk valeo atau cartier kl ga salah...amannn
Ane kira kalo beli dari seller yang banyak jualan part VW agak menjamin. apalagi ini barang jg hampir gak ada di marketplace. Sempet googling part numbernya, fisiknya mirip banget antara yg dijual seller sama barang yg dijual diluar

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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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kunaskun wrote:
beneran ya segituan. ga jadi d. bisa beli minangsuang punya selusin :big_biglaugh:

Tapi kalo diteliti deskripsi di TPOS toyota beda mbah antara 50rb made in sawadikap sama 565rb made in nipon

Yang 565 ada tulisan power…
Apa ada kapasitornya yaa didalem relay
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zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:43
DOHC wrote: Thu Aug 04, 2022 14:30 kl d agya saya seh sejak dipakein relay aftermarket malah jd sembuh klakson naek turun nya (kcuali kl di pencet di bagian tertentu aj)

avxen masi mending dikasi relay integrated mbah, lah itu agya ayla 1000 cc lebi pelit lagi paket hemat nya, klakson ga dipakein relay samsek, sinting, mentang2 cuman dikasi sebiji doank klakson nya
agya nya 1kr mbah? berarti taonnya masih sepantaran sama avanza gen 2 tapi mesin k3 yaa.. ringkes tapi awet bener sparepartnya itu pada

coba yg 3nr mbah dah kaya lekses, pake keyless terus dah pake bcm2 an intgrated2 relay segala, ada buzzer nya juga kalo lupa lupa sesuatu
Yes betul mbah, 1KR-JZGTE, percis kaya mbah 69 punya jg, metik 9 speed itu , twin quad turbo

Lebi tepatnya versi balik ke 90an mbah, vvti aj ga ad, boro2 buzzer ini itu, central lock aj entah aftermarket rebranding dr mana, bagusan alarm ayla yg raiton, lebi awet... nah baru deh sjak jaman kuar yg agya 1200 cc, yg 1000 cc dikasi vvti
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:01
kunaskun wrote:
beneran ya segituan. ga jadi d. bisa beli minangsuang punya selusin :big_biglaugh:

Tapi kalo diteliti deskripsi di TPOS toyota beda mbah antara 50rb made in sawadikap sama 565rb made in nipon

Yang 565 ada tulisan power…
Apa ada kapasitornya yaa didalem relaye1a76323ae215022dd38e149a59a893e.jpg
Yg relay 565 rebu ama yg 50an rebu itu beda kualitet nya mbah, ud ta cobain

Pake relay 565 rebu, klakson d pencet tahan, suara tetep lantang stabil

Relay minangsuang, klakson pencet tahan, suara naek turun bkin malu

Btw, kmaren sore iseng pinjem 2GD bos kita orang, iseng2 ta klakson pencet tahan, ternjata suara nya ad naek turun nya, jangan2 ud di downgrade jd relay minangsuang neh
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:52
MSU wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:42 kalo relay....dulu pengalaman pas piara merk singa...merk umum kayak gini & B**ch banyak palsu mbah
dipake sebentar udh error
paling aman beli ori di toko sparepart singa..merk valeo atau cartier kl ga salah...amannn
Ane kira kalo beli dari seller yang banyak jualan part VW agak menjamin. apalagi ini barang jg hampir gak ada di marketplace. Sempet googling part numbernya, fisiknya mirip banget antara yg dijual seller sama barang yg dijual diluar

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om belinya 6 pcs kan? udah korbanin 1 aja buka dalemannya kaya gimana. kadang penampilan bisa menipu, yg beneran hrs dilihat jeroannya. :mky_03:
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barang baru nyampe, mau ke HQnya om marmut. hehe. :mky_02:
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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Omnibus wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:42
zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:52
MSU wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:42 kalo relay....dulu pengalaman pas piara merk singa...merk umum kayak gini & B**ch banyak palsu mbah
dipake sebentar udh error
paling aman beli ori di toko sparepart singa..merk valeo atau cartier kl ga salah...amannn
Ane kira kalo beli dari seller yang banyak jualan part VW agak menjamin. apalagi ini barang jg hampir gak ada di marketplace. Sempet googling part numbernya, fisiknya mirip banget antara yg dijual seller sama barang yg dijual diluar

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om belinya 6 pcs kan? udah korbanin 1 aja buka dalemannya kaya gimana. kadang penampilan bisa menipu, yg beneran hrs dilihat jeroannya. :mky_03:
Peeling ai seh ini 99% palsu mbah, sama kaya kl ad yg jual klakson denso tp ad tulisan made in japan nya

Btw, kita orang jg pake koq tu relay bosch item, 2 2 nya ud 4 taonan buat si agya ama hrv dulu, beli nya murah cuman saban atau nobango di atrium sana
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Relay tu fungsinya buat apa ya mbah :big_think:
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yanuarra wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:32 Relay tu fungsinya buat apa ya mbah :big_think:
Buat jumper alarm aftermarket biar pas d congkel ga bunyi alarm nya
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yanuarra wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:32 Relay tu fungsinya buat apa ya mbah :big_think:
buat dipasangin ke tombol jd kl dipencet keluarlah sambel bleduk .... :mky_04:
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yanuarra wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:32 Relay tu fungsinya buat apa ya mbah :big_think:


buat ditanya...




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njess ane boro2 minangsuang mbah .... mitsuba vietnam!

:big_bored: :big_bored:


ada 2 biji doang yg denso nihon


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btw nyabut relay tuh gampang banget ya kl pake tang yg proper. n ujungnya ada pelindung PU nya jd relay ga baret2. :big_love:

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nasib kerja ga punya FSM (fsm ai udah expired subscription nya), jd pake metode asemregez nyabut relay atu2. ternyata ga ada di fuse box engine room. kata gugel di kabin, sebelah pedal gas. males ngolong2 ah :mky_04:

btw kl ga punya scanner jangan pake metode nyabut relay atu2 ya krn bakal ada dtc yg ke flag. nothing serious sih tp kl ga di erase kan meresahkan buat org ocd. :big_grin:

can communication error krn power outage pas relay dicabut

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:mky_04: ini daleman nya relay hella germany mbah
Compared to bosch taiwan
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Re: Koleksi hand tools [Part 11]

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zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 13:25 :mky_04: ini daleman nya relay hella germany mbah
Compared to bosch taiwan
Kayaknya ni bosch asli dah
Jd hella yg asli yg mana ya wkwk...
Gampang mbah...bawa serep relay aja...error di jalan tinggal cabut & pasang yg baru

Btw br inget...dulu tu di relay singa..sampe ada relay yg ada diode-nya kl ga salah lbh tahan panas apa gmn gitu
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MSU wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 13:40
zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 13:25 :mky_04: ini daleman nya relay hella germany mbah
Compared to bosch taiwan
Kayaknya ni bosch asli dah
Jd hella yg asli yg mana ya wkwk...
Gampang mbah...bawa serep relay aja...error di jalan tinggal cabut & pasang yg baru

Btw br inget...dulu tu di relay singa..sampe ada relay yg ada diode-nya kl ga salah lbh tahan panas apa gmn gitu
Bosch taiwan sama made in hella mirip2 mbah. Mirip banget. Si hella germany malah besi “L” nya warna tembaga, tapi kawat braidednya cenderung lebih kecil
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Berikut contact point nya…

Dari kiri ke kanan
Hella germany - made by hella - bosch taiwan
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zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 13:25 :mky_04: ini daleman nya relay hella germany mbah
Compared to bosch taiwan
kl dr foto semuanya ampir miriippp :wkkk:

jadi setelah dibuka apa iya ada yg palsu om? kok kayanya semua asli tuh.
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Omnibus wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 13:58
zzzprince wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 13:25 :mky_04: ini daleman nya relay hella germany mbah
Compared to bosch taiwan
kl dr foto semuanya ampir miriippp :wkkk:

jadi setelah dibuka apa iya ada yg palsu om? kok kayanya semua asli tuh.
Nah itu dia om… conclusionnya

Hella germany

+bobot paling berat (butt o meter)
+besi L warna tembaga
+skun relay paling tebel(butt o meter, ane coba tekuk2 tipis)
-Kumparan paling kecil
-kawat braided paling tipis
-per paling tipis

Bosch
+skun relay gak setebel hella punya, tapi gold plated(?)
+contact point langsung tanpa sambungan, dan lebih luas daripada hella germany
-besi L warna besi
- per dan kawat braided mirip sama made by hella

Made by hella
-mirp sama bosch, minus skun paling gampang ketekuk
-bobot paling ringan
+paling gampang dicari


Kurang lebih gitu, laporan selesai ndan :ungg: