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FortunerMan wrote:Tapi ntar kalo udah di investigate ada berita gini...diem deh si toyotaman :e-whistle:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100322/ap_ ... y_prius_ny
NY police agree driver error caused Prius crash
AP By JIM FITZGERALD, Associated Press Writer Jim Fitzgerald, Associated Press Writer – Mon Mar 22, 5:32 pm ET

HARRISON, N.Y. – A housekeeper who reported that her boss' Toyota Prius accelerated on its own and wouldn't brake as she hurtled toward a stone wall apparently had her foot on the gas pedal the entire time, according to a police investigation that concluded the driver, not the car, caused the accident.

So far Toyota has fought successfully to keep Biller's documents sealed and Biller from testifying
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maskopat wrote:lagi ah.. numpang lewat...

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namanya siapa ya om? kyknya prnh liat :ngacir:
maskopat wrote:bener2 lagi diuji...

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gbr-nya ga nongol om :ungg:
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Captivated wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Emangnya produk Chevy cuman Captiva? :mrgreen: Buktinya sudah banyak Chevy pembunuh ratusan orang dalam sejarahnya, wrongful death lawsuitnya masih ada sampai sekarang.

Mana sayang nyawanya? :mrgreen:
i'm captiva fan, not GM :e-snooty:
gw beli captiva maret thn lalu, saat GM ada diposisi bak telur diujung tanduk. mau GM punah pun gw ttp beli
Katanya Chevy yg sayang nyawa? Kok jadi Captiva only? Jadi Chevy dgn Captiva sayang nyawa...Chevy lainnya gak sayang nyawa gitu? sip!
Jadi udah setuju GM mass murderer car ya...725 org tewas satu kasus. Captiva....ya mudah2an aja setirnya gak ada yg copot :mrgreen:
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Captivated wrote:heran.... gw sampe dicap "sirik tanda tak mampu". kemudian -agak turun lepel- "sirik" aja (berarti gw udh mampu? :mrgreen: )
lalu skrg "tukang pitnah"...... wew
klo gw post sesuatu yg sesuai judul tred (ga oot) disebut tukang pitnah, lalu klo org yg suka oot n buka tred :

http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... =4&t=10561

ini sebutannya apa yak? super sirik or super pitnah??? :mrgreen:

:big_smoking:
Ooo itu ada faktanya, sampai SEKARANG pun Chevrolet BELOW AVERAGE quality rankingnya. Ada buktinya.

Kalo Fortuner (diduga) ngacir sendiri mana penyelidikannya? Itu yg namanya fitnah :mrgreen:

Kalo ane bilang Captiva bisa COPOT setirnya, itu fakta - ada recallnya. Ngerti kan bedanya?

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ralat...WAY BELOW AVERAGE!
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toyotaman wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Tapi ntar kalo udah di investigate ada berita gini...diem deh si toyotaman :e-whistle:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100322/ap_ ... y_prius_ny
NY police agree driver error caused Prius crash
AP By JIM FITZGERALD, Associated Press Writer Jim Fitzgerald, Associated Press Writer – Mon Mar 22, 5:32 pm ET

HARRISON, N.Y. – A housekeeper who reported that her boss' Toyota Prius accelerated on its own and wouldn't brake as she hurtled toward a stone wall apparently had her foot on the gas pedal the entire time, according to a police investigation that concluded the driver, not the car, caused the accident.

So far Toyota has fought successfully to keep Biller's documents sealed and Biller from testifying
:e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
Apa hubungannya dgn kasus Prius :mrgreen: Udah jelas2 driver error...kok gak ada komentarnya? Copasnya mana? Kalo POSSIBLY hebat bgt copasnya...kalo DRIVER ERROR...diem :mrgreen:
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FortunerMan wrote: Katanya Chevy yg sayang nyawa? Kok jadi Captiva only? Jadi Chevy dgn Captiva sayang nyawa...Chevy lainnya gak sayang nyawa gitu? sip!
Jadi udah setuju GM mass murderer car ya...725 org tewas satu kasus. Captiva....ya mudah2an aja setirnya gak ada yg copot :mrgreen:
GM mass murderer
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sami mawon.... ga ada yg perlu dibangga2in dr dua itu :e-snooty:

setir copot? jgn takut om, selama msh di indonesia aman2 tuh krn ctv produksi thai, bukan korsel
ini dr artikel om kmrn
http://paultan.org/2010/03/22/2006-2007 ... eel-issue/
UPDATE: According to an email from a GM official to MTM’s Chips Yap, it seems that the Chevrolet Captiva in Malaysia is NOT affected by the recall as it comes from GM Thailand and not GM South Korea.
http://www.kontan.co.id/index.php/bisni ... tiva-Prime
PR & Corporate Communications Manager GMAI, Kiki Fajar menambahkan, Captiva yang ditarik oleh GM Daewoo Auto and Technology hanya diproduksi di Korea Selatan. "Sedangkan Captiva yang beredar di Indonesia didatangkan dari pabrik di Thailand," jelasnya.
agak beda ama ini
http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/02/10/11 ... -dan-korea
Nah, bila di Singapura dan Korea Selatan, Toyota jujur dalam menarik produknya, di Indonesia, Toyota mengatakan Prius tidak ada masalah. Hanya ada masalah pemprograman sistem komputerisasi mobil.

Anehnya meskipun memiliki masalah yang sama dengan Singapura dan Korea Selatan, Toyota di Indonesia tidak mau menyebut hal tersebut sebagai sebuah bentuk penarikan kembali atau recall. Toyota di Indonesia hanya mau mengatakan Prius, tidak bermasalah dan hanya butuh sedikit perbaikan. Dan itu bukan recall.

"Enggak ada masalah di Indonesia. Lagi pula apa yang mau direcall. Itu kerusakannya hanya pada programnya saja. Dan itu tinggal di-reprogram saja dan dia akan sempurna lagi," kata Presiden Direktur TAM Johnny Darmawan ketika dihubungi detikOto pukul 11.30 WIB, Selasa (9/2/2010).
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Captivated wrote:
FortunerMan wrote: Katanya Chevy yg sayang nyawa? Kok jadi Captiva only? Jadi Chevy dgn Captiva sayang nyawa...Chevy lainnya gak sayang nyawa gitu? sip!
Jadi udah setuju GM mass murderer car ya...725 org tewas satu kasus. Captiva....ya mudah2an aja setirnya gak ada yg copot :mrgreen:
GM mass murderer
Toyota mass murderer
sami mawon.... ga ada yg perlu dibangga2in dr dua itu :e-snooty:

setir copot? jgn takut om, selama msh di indonesia aman2 tuh krn ctv produksi thai, bukan korsel
ini dr artikel om kmrn
http://paultan.org/2010/03/22/2006-2007 ... eel-issue/
UPDATE: According to an email from a GM official to MTM’s Chips Yap, it seems that the Chevrolet Captiva in Malaysia is NOT affected by the recall as it comes from GM Thailand and not GM South Korea.
http://www.kontan.co.id/index.php/bisni ... tiva-Prime
PR & Corporate Communications Manager GMAI, Kiki Fajar menambahkan, Captiva yang ditarik oleh GM Daewoo Auto and Technology hanya diproduksi di Korea Selatan. "Sedangkan Captiva yang beredar di Indonesia didatangkan dari pabrik di Thailand," jelasnya.
Jadi ente kok heboh Toyota recall di belahan dunia lain? Emang Toyota Camry, Corolla di Indonesia kena recall ngacir sendiri?

Sorry aja, BANYAK yg bisa di banggakan Toyota. Ibaratnya GM penderita penyakit kanker sekarat lagi terapi, Toyota cuman flu biasa. Enak aje disama2in :mrgreen: Perusahaan bangkrut, merek terbesarnya (Chevy) quality di bawah average...kok nyama2in ama yg sehat2 aja. Plis deh awww...
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kan sesuai judul tred om :mrgreen:
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Captivated wrote:agak beda ama ini
http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/02/10/11 ... -dan-korea
Nah, bila di Singapura dan Korea Selatan, Toyota jujur dalam menarik produknya, di Indonesia, Toyota mengatakan Prius tidak ada masalah. Hanya ada masalah pemprograman sistem komputerisasi mobil.

Anehnya meskipun memiliki masalah yang sama dengan Singapura dan Korea Selatan, Toyota di Indonesia tidak mau menyebut hal tersebut sebagai sebuah bentuk penarikan kembali atau recall. Toyota di Indonesia hanya mau mengatakan Prius, tidak bermasalah dan hanya butuh sedikit perbaikan. Dan itu bukan recall.

"Enggak ada masalah di Indonesia. Lagi pula apa yang mau direcall. Itu kerusakannya hanya pada programnya saja. Dan itu tinggal di-reprogram saja dan dia akan sempurna lagi," kata Presiden Direktur TAM Johnny Darmawan ketika dihubungi detikOto pukul 11.30 WIB, Selasa (9/2/2010).
Memang perbaikannnya cuman di reflash computernya aja, masalahnya pada rem ada bug nya - sama seperti Ford Fusion Hybrid (yg juga tidak di recall di Amerika). Dan hanya ada 13 biji Prius di Indonesia. Ngapain heboh?

Kalo mobil gak ada hubungannya dengan kasus ngacir sendiri...ente bawa2 ke kasus ngacir sendiri...itu yg lucu. Katanya Fortuner diduga ngacir sendiri, mana copasnya (terserah drmana, Indonesia kek, South Africa kek)....toyotaman aja kaga nemu bwahahaha. Kalo Captiva ...ada recallnya setir bisa copot. Fakta vs Fitnah
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Captivated wrote:kan sesuai judul tred om :mrgreen:
Kalo Fortuner ngacir sendiri...sesuai judul tred nggak?

ayo toyotaman,...bantuin cariin dong...kan ente paling sentimen ama IMV dr dulu...apalagi ama Avanza
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petugas polisi blg : fortuner lepas kendali! ane duga ada hub. ama ngacir sndiri krn emg lg rame kasus yg demikian.
logika-nya cocok lah :frm_tumbright:

dugaan = pitnah ?
skli lg, ilmu tafsir tkt.tinggi :frm_salut:

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FortunerMan wrote: Memang perbaikannnya cuman di reflash computernya aja, masalahnya pada rem ada bug nya - sama seperti Ford Fusion Hybrid (yg juga tidak di recall di Amerika). Dan hanya ada 13 biji Prius di Indonesia. Ngapain heboh?

Kalo mobil gak ada hubungannya dengan kasus ngacir sendiri...ente bawa2 ke kasus ngacir sendiri...itu yg lucu. Katanya Fortuner diduga ngacir sendiri, mana copasnya (terserah drmana, Indonesia kek, South Africa kek)....toyotaman aja kaga nemu bwahahaha. Kalo Captiva ...ada recallnya setir bisa copot. Fakta vs Fitnah
heboh krn presdir TAM ketahuan boongnya .......... wkakakakak
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Captivated wrote:petugas polisi blg : fortuner lepas kendali! ane duga ada hub. ama ngacir sndiri krn emg lg rame kasus yg demikian.
logika-nya cocok lah :frm_tumbright:

dugaan = pitnah ?
skli lg, ilmu tafsir tkt.tinggi :frm_salut:

:mrgreen:
FortunerMan wrote: Memang perbaikannnya cuman di reflash computernya aja, masalahnya pada rem ada bug nya - sama seperti Ford Fusion Hybrid (yg juga tidak di recall di Amerika). Dan hanya ada 13 biji Prius di Indonesia. Ngapain heboh?

Kalo mobil gak ada hubungannya dengan kasus ngacir sendiri...ente bawa2 ke kasus ngacir sendiri...itu yg lucu. Katanya Fortuner diduga ngacir sendiri, mana copasnya (terserah drmana, Indonesia kek, South Africa kek)....toyotaman aja kaga nemu bwahahaha. Kalo Captiva ...ada recallnya setir bisa copot. Fakta vs Fitnah
heboh krn presdir TAM ketahuan boongnya .......... wkakakakak
Iya heboh...karena 13 mobil :mrgreen: Mungkin hebohnya...in your head aja? :e-whistle:

Apanya yg cocok? Logika apa? Justru pake logika nggak nyambung sekali. Logika harus didukung fakta.
1. Lepas kendali bisa 1001 sebab.
2. Investigasi polisi tidak ada berita apa2
3. Fortuner/Hilux/Innova tidak ada hubungannya dengan recall Toyota

Ngaku aja, impian ente aja Fortuner kena kasus :mrgreen: Ane juga gak suka Captiva...tapi nggak bikin2 cerita bohong. Recall setir bisa copot Captiva beneran ada. Kalo ane bilang ntar bannya ikut copot..nah itu namanya fitnah, sama kaya ente nyambung2in Fortuner ke kasus sudden acceleration.

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wah-wah.....sdh sampe 40 page msh blom ada tanda2 bakal ada yg mengalah..... :ungg:
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doq wrote:wah-wah.....sdh sampe 40 page msh blom ada tanda2 bakal ada yg mengalah..... :ungg:
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BADAK wrote:
doq wrote:wah-wah.....sdh sampe 40 page msh blom ada tanda2 bakal ada yg mengalah..... :ungg:
Hussshh....husshh...jangan mengganggu perdebatan sengit.....
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yaaaaah.....debat sih bole2 aja n sah2 aja, tp klo d liat lama2 malah jd debat kusir yg g penting gitu....

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Sebenernya udah rada bosen, jauh lebih enak godain toyotaman...si Captivated at least gak pengecut.
Nah klonengan yg satu ini...ngomong aja kaga berani :mrgreen:

1. Kenapa takut ngomong? Takut digigit?
2. Kenapa takut ngomong? Takut ketahuan dari gaya ngomongnya?
3. Manusia macam apa yg takut ngomong di forum internet? Apalagi aslinya?
4. Siapakah gerangan toyotaman?

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Yesterday we reported that Volkswagen & Audi were recalling 13,500+ vehicles equipped with it’s DSG transmission. Today we’re finding out the recall may just be the tip of the iceburg. After the jump we have videos of what happens when the transmission fails and more information on the recall.

Just this morning, Good Morning America had a piece on the recall, interviewing customers who had transmissions in their vehicles fail- sometimes with less than 100 miles on the odometer. As reported in the GMA video, at least one owner had the transmission switch into neutral while accelerating onto a highway- causing a potentially serious safety issue.

From the GMA article:

It happened to Lisa Toler of California, just as she was merging onto the highway.

“You’re in motion, but all of a sudden you don’t have any acceleration,” she described. “The gas wouldn’t work.”

She says fast-moving traffic streamed around her as she struggled to get over to the side of the road. Dennis Capolongo and his son, Justin, had an eerily similar experience, just as they were merging onto a freeway in Maryland.

“There was no forward motion at all with the car. The engine was just racing and the transmission was just completely slipping,” Capolongo explained.

Capolongo said they very nearly had a collision before they managed to maneuver over to the shoulder of the freeway. His 2009 Jetta had 623 miles on it at the time. Toler’s Jetta was even newer, with just 81 miles. She had had it for just two days. Other VW drivers have posted videos of their close calls on YouTube. Many say the park, reverse, neutral and drive lights flash on and off like crazy when their transmission goes haywire.

They’ve even coined a name for it: “The flash of death.” “This is a classic safety hazard,” said Clarence Ditlow of the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety. “It’s a brand new vehicle. Consumers are being stranded on freeways. It’s only a matter of time before we have consumers being killed.”

At least one owner has posted a video on YouTube of the “false neutral” that occurs when a faulty transmission sensor incorrectly tells the vehicle’s computer the transmission has overheated, when it has not.


Volkswagen released this statement regarding the recall and the safety issues surrounding it.

“”Working with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) we have determined that a safety issue can be presented by a limited number of faulty temperature sensors and we have taken action through a voluntary recall. We have determined that 13,500 Volkswagen models and 2,500 Audi models are affected under this recall. We are confident that the temperature sensor is the cause of this safety issue.

There have been other reports related to the transmission’s Mechatronic control unit. As with all such reports we are cooperating closely with NHTSA to review these cases. At this time we have not determined that any safety defect exists.
Again, we are confident that the temperature sensor action will address the safety issue that we and the agency have identified.

We encourage customers that have questions or concerns to call the toll free Volkswagen Loyalty Center at 1-800-444-8982 1-800-444-8982. Audi customers are encouraged to call the Audi Customer Relations Campaign Help Line at 1-800-253-2834 1-800-253-2834.”
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Captivated wrote:kan sesuai judul tred om :mrgreen:
Kalo Fortuner ngacir sendiri...sesuai judul tred nggak?

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Jangan lupa Rush/Terios om... :upss:
FortunerMan wrote:Sebenernya udah rada bosen, jauh lebih enak godain toyotaman...si Captivated at least gak pengecut.
Nah klonengan yg satu ini...ngomong aja kaga berani :mrgreen:

1. Kenapa takut ngomong? Takut digigit?
2. Kenapa takut ngomong? Takut ketahuan dari gaya ngomongnya?
3. Manusia macam apa yg takut ngomong di forum internet? Apalagi aslinya?
4. Siapakah gerangan toyotaman?

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The maximum energy that can be obtained by particles in an electrostatic accelerator is limited to the maximum terminal voltage that can be attained. This voltage is a critical design parameter, and its maintenance is critical to effective operation. It has been observed that the breakdown voltage on acceleration tubes is decreased after the tubes have been in service for some time. This is associated with the presence of streaming particles, either electrons or ions. Those particles having electrical charges opposite in sign to the particles being accelerated at that point produce backstreaming; those having the same sign are accelerated with the desired particles. Such particles may originate from foreign matter deposited on an insulating section or particles of the pressuring gas that have entered the accelerating tube through a leak from the pressurized section. They may also be breakdown products of an insulator or of the assembling cement, ionized by arcing across a defective insulator. Whatever their source, streaming particles place an intolerable operating limit on an electrostatic accelerator, requiring shutdown, location of the defect, and its repair. In particular, electrons so produced may cause an avalanche effect. Repair is often simple, since placing an electrical short circuit across a defective section will ordinarily eliminate the source of particles and allow a return to operation. While a complete and final repair may require replacement of a major portion of an accelerator tube, operation adequate for most purposes can ordinarily be achieved by this effective electrical removal of a small number of sections. This is analogous to strengthening a chain by removal of a few weak links. As an example of the results of such a repair, the Tandem Van de Graaff Accelerator at Kansas State University, Manhattan, Kansas, has been operated successfully above its design voltage with ten sections short-circuited out of the 155 sections in one of the two tandem sections of the accelerating tube.

However, to fix trouble, one must find it. The cost of an abortive attempt to find a source of streaming particles is at least forty-eight hours of turnaround time, the loss of some filler gas, which is expensive if sulfur hexafluoride is used, and the risk of additional threats to cleanliness and structural integrity whenever the pressure and vacuum system are opened to the atmosphere. Past measures have comprised a trial-and-error process of repeatedly short-circuiting trial sections of the acceleration tube until an improvement in breakdown characteristics is noted. An effective means of finding such a defect would facilitate operation of electrostatic particle accelerators.

It is an object of the present inventon to provide an improved method of locating defects in a high-voltage insulator.

It is a further object of the present invention to provide a fast, reliable method of locating a defective section in the accelerating tube of an electrostatic particle accelerator.

It is a further object of the present invention to provide a method of locating a defective section in the accelerating tube of a particle accelerator without shutting down the accelerator.

It is a further object of the present invention to provide a method of using X-ray detection of bremsstrahlung to identify the location of a defect in an internal insulator of an electrostatic particle accelerator.

Other objects will become apparent in the course of a detailed description of the invention.

SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

The location of a defect which produces extraneous particles in a high-voltage insulator is determined by applying a high voltage to the insulator. This produces X-rays which are detected and displayed to provide a spectrum of photon count vs. energy. The endpoint energy of this spectrum is determined, and the ratio of the voltage of this end-point energy to the high voltage applied to the insulator provides a ratio which, when multiplied by the length of the insulator, gives the distance of the defect along the insulator, measured from the point to which the extraneous particles are accelerated. If the insulator is formed of equal sections, the ratio is multiplied by the number of sections to give the number of the defective section from the point to which the extraneous particles are accelerated.
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oom asudarsono koq gaya nulisnya mirip ama oom toyotaman yah? *peace om*
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Nggak kenal sih, cuma kepingin tahu om datsu ke mana aja.
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Sini mas, diramein. Biar makin cepet masuk part 2.
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asudarsono wrote:Nggak kenal sih, cuma kepingin tahu om datsu ke mana aja.
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Sini mas, diramein. Biar makin cepet masuk part 2.

jd udah ada request nih bikin part 2? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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asudarsono wrote:Nggak kenal sih, cuma kepingin tahu om datsu ke mana aja.
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Sini mas, diramein. Biar makin cepet masuk part 2.
hhahahaha... ada mas momod indocafe dateng tu... ntar beneran jadi part 2 lho oom.. :p
eeh, tapi masih 41 pages deng... masih butuh 10 lagi buat bikin part 2..

yaa, biar gak dibilang sama gaya nulisnya dibedain doong ooom, kan biar ketauan karakternya masing2... saya mah disini mau mantau aja... makin panas makin seruu... lumayan hiburan dikala lagi gak ada kerjaan di kantor.. :D
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Re: Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat

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Wakakakak....hiburan yah? Iya betul om datsu...rasanya seperti baca komik pahlawan FM sendirian, dikeroyok musuh2nya :upss:
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Re: Toyota sedang mengalami ujian berat

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hiduuuppp toyotaaaa....
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