Irreasonable harga Innova Baru - PART 02

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Hooo...ternyata baru 6taon ya om di Sby. Tp kyk nya udah mengenal dunia mlm lbh mendalam :mrgreen:
Aku dulu stay 8th om di Sby om. Awal menginjakkan Sby cmn pake Honda Astrea buat puter2 :D
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eh yang bener2 head-to-head di kelas ipah siapa ya sekarang? :e-think:
panther udah ketinggalan teknologinya...
grandis beda kelas..
freed dan gl kurang lega...
apv dan avanza di bawahnya... :e-think:

harusnya ktb masukin fuzion kali ya.. baru ketemu lawan imbang nih si ipah... :e-think:
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maskopat wrote: harusnya ktb masukin fuzion kali ya.. baru ketemu lawan imbang nih si ipah... :e-think:
bener, trus nanti dinamakan Kuda Innova :wkkk:
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Pajero Family....bwah....MELEDAK penjualan :mrgreen:
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peluang emas bagi KTB... :big_smoking:
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FortunerMan wrote:Pajero Family....bwah....MELEDAK penjualan :mrgreen:
dugaan om FM kalo KTB masukin fuzion (kuda), bakal meledak om penjualannya? :e-think:
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Kalo dinamain Pajero Family mungkin...kalo nggak..hmmm...tampangnya rada jelek sih imo
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pajero touring kali ye.... mantep tuh namanya.... :e-think:
tapi KTB juga lagi gak jelas nih... D5 gak jelas jadi keluar atau gak.. ASX juga. padahal tahun lalu udah digadang2 mau dilaunch...
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Masing bingung mereke ngitung untung dr jualan PS :mrgreen: kalkulatornya ampe jebol :mrgreen:
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mungkin tdk ada head on head selevel inova krn prinsipal lbh tertarik utk siapin senjata fight kelas avanza mengingat volum penjualaan yg menggiurkan, krn pesaing inova rata2 save semua bagi sy,tdk ada yg identik bgt baek secara dimensi maupun spek(ex spt kapsul, new panther, kuda-msn mirip, ukuran bodi jg)
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maskopat wrote:eh yang bener2 head-to-head di kelas ipah siapa ya sekarang? :e-think:
panther udah ketinggalan teknologinya...
grandis beda kelas..
freed dan gl kurang lega...
apv dan avanza di bawahnya... :e-think:

harusnya ktb masukin fuzion kali ya.. baru ketemu lawan imbang nih si ipah... :e-think:
IMHO panther walopun jadul, asal tipe tertinggi LS & GT dibanderol 200jt ke bawah mungkin msh bisa bersaing. Kalo price list terlalu dekat dgn innova jelas aja berat untuk bersaing. IAMI kyk nya udah gak trll peduli dgn penjualan disegment passenger car.
Beda dgn segment mbl niaga, saat penjualan Isuzu Bison keteteran IAMI langsung menurunkan banderol hingga 10jt.
Kompetitor yg plg mendekati innova dr segment pasar & harga saat ini kyk nya GL & Freed.
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isuzu kan sekarang gak berani bilang: "isuzu rajanya diesel"....
di diesel sudah jelas diasepin oleh kuda diesel...
dari daya tahan, saingannya si kijang diesel dan kuda diesel juga handal... :shrug:
apalagi yang dibanggain dari ispan? paling mesin diesel kuno yang tahan solar busuk... :e-think:
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@maskopat: Justru saking kencangnya si kuda malah koit duluan om. Mustinya pake prinsip "alon2 asal kelakon" biar exist :big_weee:

Wah, baca koran hari ini innova udah banjir inden. Memang emblem "Toyota Kijang" ini bener2 sakti mandraguna.
Gak heran Astra makin kaya :mrgreen:
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Ane juga udah ngira bakalan banjir order nih innopah...biarpun dalemnya gitu2 aja, faceliftnya emang bikin jadi ganteng nan berwibawa.
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fuzion tu ternyata ade nya kuda to........
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maskopat wrote:isuzu kan sekarang gak berani bilang: "isuzu rajanya diesel"....
di diesel sudah jelas diasepin oleh kuda diesel...
dari daya tahan, saingannya si kijang diesel dan kuda diesel juga handal... :shrug:
apalagi yang dibanggain dari ispan? paling mesin diesel kuno yang tahan solar busuk... :e-think:
skrg mahh saingan si ispan bukan nya si kuda atau kijang kapsul lagi om.... tapi si ipah D4D... kalo dulu di jaman nya sehh ane yakin ispan sdikit lebi unggul dari kuda atau apalagi si kijang kapsul penjualan nya.... kijang kapsul mahh yg laku type bensin nya 1.8 LGX efi... kalo kuda yahhh tau sendiri, penjualan nya kaya apa... lah wong ipah atau apanja blom booming aja mendadak uda di discontinue...
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IMHO, Kuda tuh termasuk produk gagal dr KTB. Umurnya pendek banget dibanding kompetitornya. Bukan berarti kuda jelek, cuman kalah bersaing aja. Terutama design body yg terlalu kaku.
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BADAK wrote:IMHO, Kuda tuh termasuk produk gagal dr KTB. Umurnya pendek banget dibanding kompetitornya. Bukan berarti kuda jelek, cuman kalah bersaing aja. Terutama design body yg terlalu kaku.
nah ini yg ane stuju.... produk gagal sehh tidak... siapa yg masi meragukan mesin 4D56 nya elsape... tapi dari penjualan yahh kita bisa liat sendiri lahh di jalanan... seberapa banyak sehh kuda diesel... bahkan ane masi lebi sering liat panther ketimbang kuda....

padahal bole dibilang... kuda cukup gencar lohh promo nya di jaman nya... dulu di sana sini pinggir jalan bahkan jalan tol ada poster gede2 iklan kuda... bahkan di tv aja ampe sewa bonjovi dgn its my life nya....
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DOHC, kl kuda diesel msh srg liat berseliweran. Kalo yg bensin mah bisa dihitung dgn jari. Udah gt spare part yg kuda bensin mulai mahal & sulit.
Justru itu kesalahan mitsu, mestinya dl bintang iklannya pake Britney Spears biar exist :upss:
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Entah di mana salahnya si Kuda ini di bawah asuhan KTB. Iklan banyak, endorsement jalan, jaringan bengkel kuat. Model juga gak jelek2 amat (kcuali yang generasi trakir berheadlamp aneh). Kok tetep gak laku y?

Dan secara teknis ni mobil gak nyusahin, mayan kenceng, gak da cacat bawaan. Well?
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IMHO design body paling fatal. Yg kedua image boros jika dibandingkan kedua kompetitornya. Mesin boleh kenchang, tp user disegment ini gak mengejar kenchang dr mbl seberat hampir 2 ton.
Untuk lebih jelasnya kita tunggu analisi dr pakar mitsu, mas-kopat :ungg:
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Nightster Guy wrote:Entah di mana salahnya si Kuda ini di bawah asuhan KTB. Iklan banyak, endorsement jalan, jaringan bengkel kuat. Model juga gak jelek2 amat (kcuali yang generasi trakir berheadlamp aneh). Kok tetep gak laku y?

Dan secara teknis ni mobil gak nyusahin, mayan kenceng, gak da cacat bawaan. Well?
Yang ane pernah denger2 sihh, black campaign pedege nya yang manjur om... entah itu pedege mobil baru atawa seken.. Aseli, ane denger ndiri, yang paling gencer tuh diteriakinnya kata BOROS, Spare parts sulit en Muahall tenan. Gitu! Makanya, waktu bonyok ke diler toyota mau minang kapsul dikatain gitu ama salesnya, langsung ane bilang,"tong kosong nyaring bunyinya. Makin kosong otaknya, makin nyaring congornya, pah. Kita ke Borobudur Motor aja (dealer Mitsu)". Salesnya Toyota, langsung deh lemes liat kita berlalu, akibat congore..

Di BM, babeh malah seneng dengan desain Kuda, dan sempet TD. Ternyata lebih nyaman dibanding kapsul. Akhirnya minang diamond 2.5 diesel. Karena kalo grandia, cuman beda di panel kayu, spion lebih guede, ama 2tone colour dan fog lamp. Dapet bonus HU Alpine plus CD changer yg ditaroh di bawah jok depan isi 6 atau 8, lupak, hehe..Trus dapet film kaca 60%, karpet dasar Vinyl, karpet karet, diskon cash ampe 10 juta, alarm, duh apa lagi yah, lupak.. Dan sampe sekarang, masih joss gandoss..!!
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nahh kayanya itu jg bener tuh.... black campaign sales2 nya kuat banget... btw kalo soal boros sehh ane blom perna denger yahh kalo buat kuda diesel... tapi kalo yg sering ane denger di kalangan pedege mobkas... kuda diesel itu mesin nya ga seawet panther... spare part mitsu mahal... blom lagi katanya suara nya brisik banget bla bla bla dll dll...
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Yang bisa diboongi pastinya tipikal konsumen awam y? Dieselnya gak awet bijimane, wonk jelas2 legendnya Mitsu saking badaknya, 4D56.

Yah, gitu deh sales.
OOT dikit: Pernah ada sales Atoyot NGELES waktu ane belagak culun nanya, 'Pak, denger2 ini mesin Daihatsu y?'. Setelah dia puas ngejelasin HOAX versi dia, ane pukul balik dengan ngejelasin ke dia tentang kode2 designasi mesin Atoyot versus Daihatsu, plus arti2nya wkwkwkwkwkw.... :big_weee:
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IMHO lg, biarpun sales ngoceh2 black campaign tetep aja realita berbicara. Kuda boros, mmg iya kl dibandingin kijang & panther. Kalo suara, justru kuda diesel plg halus. Dan skrg kuda diesel termasuk plg diburu bekasnya krn good value.
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