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win1234 wrote:Mobil Ginseng sunat fiturnya ngak berlebihan kok banding mayoritas pabrik Jepang.


Ingat pula mereka mobil CBU luar ASEAN, bayar pajak bea masuknya mahal, sekitar 45%. Mobil CKD atau CBU ex-Asean macam Thailand entah 0 atau 5% saja. Beda jauh.


Itupun perhatikan banyak SUV Jepang CKD, udah ngak bayar bea masuk yang mahal, fitur miskin, namun tetap di jual 400 juta lebih. Jelas menurut ane SUV macam Sorento CBU, tapi harga CKD, plus fitur lebih banyak. Sangat fair harganya.


Konsekuensinya memang ane yakin untung ATPM ginseng jauh lebih tipis banding ATPM Jepang. Lihat dari segi pajak bea masuknya aja udah pasti demikian.


Estimasi aja sendiri 45% dari modal itu sekitar berapa. Estimasi saya 100 jutaan dah masuk ke kas negara kita per SUV Korea. Dari sini juga jelas, keuntungan para SUV Jepang macam fortuner, crv minimal 150 juta atau lebih per SUV.


Beda banget di luar negeri, mobil Korea sekarang sangat di takuti pemain Jepang karena mereka mampu bikin mobil bagus, fitur banyak dengan harga murah. Itulah jangan coba banding Sorento di Eropa, USA ama di sini. Bisa iri banget.


Murah, fitur segudang. Tapi bukan karena ATPMnya di sini mau untung gede, atau pelit, tapi karena peraturan perpajakan Indonesia yang sangat memberatkan mobil import luar Asean.
om rv is back!! :big_weee:
tp ane harus setuju dengan pendapat rv kali ini
coba liat altis baru harganya sama kaya subaru impreza 2.0
mazda cx5 yg jelas cbu japan harganya bisa setara ama crv
perlu diapresiasi atpm mazda subaru kia hyundai dll yg ngasih harga mobilnya value to money terhadap konsumen
bukan sales mobil :big_smoking:
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Ini bisa minun premium gak ya :ungg:


terus FCnya berapa :mky_03:
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Turut berduka cita atas dicukurnya fitur-fitur dari mobil cakep ini.
Setelah dicukur pun dosanya masih banyak karena harga jual yang mahal.
Semoga Tuhan mengampuninya, amin...

Liat Carens ini sedih, rasanya semua fitur yang bisa dicabut, ya dicabut.
Menyisakan fitur-fitur yang (relatif) gak penting, kesannya karena fitur-fitur sisa ini susah dicabut.

250juta single airbag?
No ABS?
AC analog?
Headunit standar?

Gak heran belum bisa bicara banyak di penjualan.
Beda sama Sportage dan Sorento yang bisa fight (secara fitur dan harga) sama pemain Jepang.
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axala wrote:Ini bisa minun premium gak ya :ungg:


terus FCnya berapa :mky_03:
air ledeng jg bisa :mky_01:
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axala wrote:Ini bisa minun premium gak ya :ungg:


terus FCnya berapa :mky_03:
Minun? :big_chicken:
Ndak tau ya, tapi yg jelas sama teman saya diisi pertamax.
FC khan udah ada di halaman 1
Soal konsumsi BBM, tadi waktu saya coba, angka di MID menunjukkan 11.8 liter/100km. Kalau dijadikan km/l berarti sekitar 8.5km/l.
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andrijet wrote:Turut berduka cita atas dicukurnya fitur-fitur dari mobil cakep ini.
Setelah dicukur pun dosanya masih banyak karena harga jual yang mahal.
Semoga Tuhan mengampuninya, amin...

Liat Carens ini sedih, rasanya semua fitur yang bisa dicabut, ya dicabut.
Menyisakan fitur-fitur yang (relatif) gak penting, kesannya karena fitur-fitur sisa ini susah dicabut.

250juta single airbag?
No ABS?
AC analog?
Headunit standar?

Gak heran belum bisa bicara banyak di penjualan.
Beda sama Sportage dan Sorento yang bisa fight (secara fitur dan harga) sama pemain Jepang.
Mungkin perlu korban bakaran supaya dosanya diampuni :mky_03:
Monggo mampir ke blog saya http://yahyakurniawan.net
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andrijet wrote:Turut berduka cita atas dicukurnya fitur-fitur dari mobil cakep ini.
Setelah dicukur pun dosanya masih banyak karena harga jual yang mahal.
Semoga Tuhan mengampuninya, amin...

Liat Carens ini sedih, rasanya semua fitur yang bisa dicabut, ya dicabut.
Menyisakan fitur-fitur yang (relatif) gak penting, kesannya karena fitur-fitur sisa ini susah dicabut.

250juta single airbag?
No ABS?
AC analog?
Headunit standar?

Gak heran belum bisa bicara banyak di penjualan.
Beda sama Sportage dan Sorento yang bisa fight (secara fitur dan harga) sama pemain Jepang.
Anu... Carens yg skrg sudah ada penambahan di jok kulit asli (yg kualitasnya ga kalah ama camry) & HU touchscreen... :mky_01:
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amfibi wrote: Anu... Carens yg skrg sudah ada penambahan di jok kulit asli (yg kualitasnya ga kalah ama camry) & HU touchscreen... :mky_01:
Alhamdulillah...
Lumayan lha mangkas profit 10jutaan buat jok kulit dan head unit.
axala wrote: Image
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Perbandingan Carens IDM VS Carens Full Option.
Itu siapa yang nyabutin tombol-tombolnya...??
Kok pada ilang semua...
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Naga2nya sih, KIA bakal jual mahal kalo produk mrk sudah sukses di pasaran...

Spt sportage baru yg mahal abis... :mky_03:
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untuk masalah Head Unit mungkin bisa diganti sendiri..

tapi serius deh...masa cuma single airbags dan no ABS, untuk kedepannya harus ada penambahan jadi dual airbags, ABS EBD BA, audio steering switch, dan mungkin untuk varian platinum dikasih Panoramic Roof dan dual zone climate control.kalo udah ada penambahan fitur itu mungkin saya rasa Carens bisa fight untuk volume penjualan..

untuk saya sendiri, saya suka interior dan eksterior Carens...tapi yang full spec :ngacir:
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andrijet wrote:Turut berduka cita atas dicukurnya fitur-fitur dari mobil cakep ini.
Setelah dicukur pun dosanya masih banyak karena harga jual yang mahal.
Semoga Tuhan mengampuninya, amin...

Liat Carens ini sedih, rasanya semua fitur yang bisa dicabut, ya dicabut.
Menyisakan fitur-fitur yang (relatif) gak penting, kesannya karena fitur-fitur sisa ini susah dicabut.

250juta single airbag?
No ABS?
AC analog?
Headunit standar?

Gak heran belum bisa bicara banyak di penjualan.
Beda sama Sportage dan Sorento yang bisa fight (secara fitur dan harga) sama pemain Jepang.
Belum bnyak belajar KIA, klw dua airbag, ABS+EBD+BA, digital AC, steering wheel control, bsa lah saingin si dono :big_grin:
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amfibi wrote:Naga2nya sih, KIA bakal jual mahal kalo produk mrk sudah sukses di pasaran...

Spt sportage baru yg mahal abis... :mky_03:
kl gitu kita puasa kia dulu yukk :mky_02:
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operprais utk current spec...

kalo harganya 225jt.. mungkin dah ada di mana.. tapi tetep.. airbags kudu 2 biji di depan..
Clonengan juga manusia loh. :mky_08:
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CloneySM wrote:operprais utk current spec...

kalo harganya 225jt.. mungkin dah ada di mana.. tapi tetep.. airbags kudu 2 biji di depan..
betull..
bahkan mobil termurah toyota pun ada airbag 2 ...omg dah itu kia jualan..
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montirangin wrote:
CloneySM wrote:operprais utk current spec...

kalo harganya 225jt.. mungkin dah ada di mana.. tapi tetep.. airbags kudu 2 biji di depan..
betull..
bahkan mobil termurah toyota pun ada airbag 2 ...omg dah itu kia jualan..
Belum pengalaman KIA soal jual" an di indo :mky_03:
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WongZo wrote:
montirangin wrote:
CloneySM wrote:operprais utk current spec...

kalo harganya 225jt.. mungkin dah ada di mana.. tapi tetep.. airbags kudu 2 biji di depan..
betull..
bahkan mobil termurah toyota pun ada airbag 2 ...omg dah itu kia jualan..
Belum pengalaman KIA soal jual" an di indo :mky_03:
mungkin terlalu "pinter" ilmu kira2 nya mereka.
kirain org indo masih bercocok tanam :big_weee:
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montirangin wrote:
WongZo wrote: Belum pengalaman KIA soal jual" an di indo :mky_03:
mungkin terlalu "pinter" ilmu kira2 nya mereka.
kirain org indo masih bercocok tanam :big_weee:
Skrng juga kan msh bercocok tanamn om :big_grin:
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WongZo wrote: Belum bnyak belajar KIA, klw dua airbag, ABS+EBD+BA, digital AC, steering wheel control, bsa lah saingin si dono :big_grin:
Dono type G udh ada abs'nya kah? :ungg: barusan liat, harga si carens at hampir sama sm ipah 2.0 g at :ungg:

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jason28 wrote:
WongZo wrote: Belum bnyak belajar KIA, klw dua airbag, ABS+EBD+BA, digital AC, steering wheel control, bsa lah saingin si dono :big_grin:
Dono type G udh ada abs'nya kah? :ungg: barusan liat, harga si carens at hampir sama sm ipah 2.0 g at :ungg:

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WongZo wrote:
montirangin wrote:
WongZo wrote: Belum pengalaman KIA soal jual" an di indo :mky_03:
mungkin terlalu "pinter" ilmu kira2 nya mereka.
kirain org indo masih bercocok tanam :big_weee:
Skrng juga kan msh bercocok tanamn om :big_grin:
udah dikit om..yg sisa yg umur 60-70an..yg 40 aja udah jarang bgt..pada pindah ke kota besar..
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montirangin wrote:
WongZo wrote: Skrng juga kan msh bercocok tanamn om :big_grin:
udah dikit om..yg sisa yg umur 60-70an..yg 40 aja udah jarang bgt..pada pindah ke kota besar..
Iya juga sih :mky_06:
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amfibi wrote:
jason28 wrote:
WongZo wrote: Belum bnyak belajar KIA, klw dua airbag, ABS+EBD+BA, digital AC, steering wheel control, bsa lah saingin si dono :big_grin:
Dono type G udh ada abs'nya kah? :ungg: barusan liat, harga si carens at hampir sama sm ipah 2.0 g at :ungg:

:ngacir: :ngacir:
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Apa mending beli carens secara dia udh all disc brake :ngacir:

Cashback berapa si...kata salesnya masi pada vin2013 semua soalnya, makanya sempet dikuliti+dikasi headrest monitor

bahan yg tadinya piano finish disunat juga rubber finish ala bag.bawah bb curve...lembut2 tapi ga gampang beset kt kia, gakaya bb curve yg gampang beset
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axala wrote:
Apa mending beli carens secara dia udh all disc brake :ngacir:

Cashback berapa si...kata salesnya masi pada vin2013 semua soalnya, makanya sempet dikuliti+dikasi headrest monitor

bahan yg tadinya piano finish disunat juga rubber finish ala bag.bawah bb curve...lembut2 tapi ga gampang beset kt kia, gakaya bb curve yg gampang beset
h a h a
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ga mau keluarin vin 2014 trus maksa buyer vin 2013..yg beli...selamat deh..
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Ipah G juga kaga ada abs'nya kan :upss: