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Masuk akal banget Ford hengkang, begitu liat historis yang dijelaskan om NR ... 

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ini sy kasihtau any fort owner in indo to make money from ths exit ...
exit of fort from indo gives blessing (in quote) to any fort owner to prosecute FMC in michigan on unfair business practice.in indo
why?
1.coz FMI is only a "paper company" ... company with no asset to guarantee liabilitiea
2. fort in tailand has no corporate structure (share) with FMI ... so dearborn county circuit court (hq fort global in db, mi) can not dismiss ths claim away from US forum.on forum-non-convenience ground (pengadilan US tak berhak mengadili krn yg berhak itu pengadilan tailand)
2. fort asia pacific (south korea or elsewhere) is deem as operational arm of fort global ... for (sama) dearborn circuit court (pengadilan negeri di dearborn) can not make same case dismissal and send ths cass away to a southkorean court
nah apa yg di tuntut?
lack of import duty payment invoice when time of sales transaction occurred ... there is a gap between amount stated in "factuur" and onroad price paid by a customer purchasing brandnew unit in indo (pls recheck)
fort may argue it was due to precedence in indo practice (but they must proof it by purchasing at least two brandnew vehicles of non-fort brand(s) in indo n bring 'em in complete form including sales docs ... to before presiding judge in dearbon county circuit court for evidencing
sending a two ina-dm brand new vehicles from jakarta to dearborn is very expensive including insurance ... and economically useless than ... offering a claimant from indo ... a fair settlement to close eyes ... sign a confidential peace accord ... accept the offer ... shutmouth forever n ... walk away
sy perkirakan settlement offer di mulai dr $;10k net after 33.3% michigan lawyer's share ... max.is around $ 50k
exit of fort from indo gives blessing (in quote) to any fort owner to prosecute FMC in michigan on unfair business practice.in indo
why?
1.coz FMI is only a "paper company" ... company with no asset to guarantee liabilitiea
2. fort in tailand has no corporate structure (share) with FMI ... so dearborn county circuit court (hq fort global in db, mi) can not dismiss ths claim away from US forum.on forum-non-convenience ground (pengadilan US tak berhak mengadili krn yg berhak itu pengadilan tailand)
2. fort asia pacific (south korea or elsewhere) is deem as operational arm of fort global ... for (sama) dearborn circuit court (pengadilan negeri di dearborn) can not make same case dismissal and send ths cass away to a southkorean court
nah apa yg di tuntut?
lack of import duty payment invoice when time of sales transaction occurred ... there is a gap between amount stated in "factuur" and onroad price paid by a customer purchasing brandnew unit in indo (pls recheck)
fort may argue it was due to precedence in indo practice (but they must proof it by purchasing at least two brandnew vehicles of non-fort brand(s) in indo n bring 'em in complete form including sales docs ... to before presiding judge in dearbon county circuit court for evidencing
sending a two ina-dm brand new vehicles from jakarta to dearborn is very expensive including insurance ... and economically useless than ... offering a claimant from indo ... a fair settlement to close eyes ... sign a confidential peace accord ... accept the offer ... shutmouth forever n ... walk away
sy perkirakan settlement offer di mulai dr $;10k net after 33.3% michigan lawyer's share ... max.is around $ 50k
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newrubble wrote:ini sy kasihtau any fort owner in indo to make money from ths exit ...
exit of fort from indo gives blessing (in quote) to any fort owner to prosecute FMC in michigan on unfair business practice.in indo
why?
1.coz FMI is only a "paper company" ... company with no asset to guarantee liabilitiea
2. fort in tailand has no corporate structure (share) with FMI ... so dearborn county circuit court (hq fort global in db, mi) can not dismiss ths claim away from US forum.on forum-non-convenience ground (pengadilan US tak berhak mengadili krn yg berhak itu pengadilan tailand)
2. fort asia pacific (south korea or elsewhere) is deem as operational arm of fort global ... for (sama) dearborn circuit court (pengadilan negeri di dearborn) can not make same case dismissal and send ths cass away to a southkorean court
nah apa yg di tuntut?
lack of import duty payment invoice when time of sales transaction occurred ... there is a gap between amount stated in "factuur" and onroad price paid by a customer purchasing brandnew unit in indo (pls recheck)
fort may argue it was due to precedence in indo practice (but they must proof it by purchasing at least two brandnew vehicles of non-fort brand(s) in indo n bring 'em in complete form including sales docs ... to before presiding judge in dearbon county circuit court for evidencing
sending a two ina-dm brand new vehicles from jakarta to dearborn is very expensive including insurance ... and economically useless than ... offering a claimant from indo ... a fair settlement to close eyes ... sign a confidential peace accord ... accept the offer ... shutmouth forever n ... walk away
sy perkirakan settlement offer di mulai dr $;10k net after 33.3% michigan lawyer's share ... max.is around $ 50k
Nah, pencerahan kek gini nih yang perlu disimak, biar kita para konsumen tidak diperlakukan semena-mena sama produsen

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tdk mgkn lah indo govt.terapkan re-entry financial precondition ini ... non-confidence mrk n mgkn bbrp puluh decades lg bisaomsafety2 wrote:Kalau di Iran beda lagi tuh, Peugeot malah bayar kompensasi ke mitra usahanya karena ninggalin mereka
http://oto.detik.com/read/2016/02/10/14 ... o991101638
Teheran -PSA Peugeot Citroen akan membayar kompensasi senilai lebih dari 400 juta euro atau sekitar Rp 6 triliun kepada mitranya di Iran, Khodro, karena secara sepihak meninggalkan negeri itu pada 2012 lalu. Pabrikan asal Prancis itu hengkang menyusul penerapan sanksi internasional atas program pengembangan senjata nuklir yang dilakukan Iran.
Seperti dilaporkan Reuters, Rabu (10/2/2016), kompensasi itu diberikan atas kerugian yang diderita oleh Khodro karena Peugeot meninggalkannya secara sepihak. Padahal, pada 2011 atau setahun sebelum pabrikan berlambang singa itu hengkang, penjualan mobilnya di Iran mencapai 473.000 unit.
Bahkan dengan penjualan sebanyak itu, Peugeot telah menjadi merek asal Eropa paling laris di Negeri Para Mullah tersebut. Kini, populasi mobil Peugeot di Iran diperkirakan mencapai 4 juta unit.
"Setelah berdasarkan berbagai pemotongan, kompensasi yang harus dibayarkan Peugeot sebanyak 427,6 juta euro atas kerugian (yang diderita Khodro)," papar Managing Director Iran-Khodro Company, Hashem Yekke-Zare, yang dikutip oleh kantor berita ISNA.
Dia mengatakan kompensasi sebesar itu untuk mengganti kerugian atas diskon dan berbagai layanan yang diberikan oleh Khodro kepada konsumen. Selain itu juga biaya ganti rugi atas pengadaan suku cadang yang disediakan Khodro untuk pemilik mobil.
Bahkan royalti yang terutang oleh Peugeot sepanjang kurun waktu 2012 – 2016. Kerugian lainnya yang diajukan adalah, komitmen Peugeot untuk memberikan pelatihan kepada karyawan sebagai wujud kelangsungan kerja sama kedua belah pihak hingga masa depan.
manaa brani ... ini tdk sesuai dg kesopanan indo.dan lainnya ... silakan counter sy buat yg punya peluru kata kata
beli 40 bae hawk100/200 end up hanya 22 airworthy (sisa 18 pre assembled sampai skrg n dr 18 itu 2 dicoba locally assembled in endup jadi tugu di aceh tengah n makassar) tdk ada settlement satu penny pun sampai skrg
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newrubble wrote:tdk mgkn lah indo govt.terapkan re-entry financial precondition ini ... non-confidence mrk n mgkn bbrp puluh decades lg bisaomsafety2 wrote:Kalau di Iran beda lagi tuh, Peugeot malah bayar kompensasi ke mitra usahanya karena ninggalin mereka
http://oto.detik.com/read/2016/02/10/14 ... o991101638
Teheran -PSA Peugeot Citroen akan membayar kompensasi senilai lebih dari 400 juta euro atau sekitar Rp 6 triliun kepada mitranya di Iran, Khodro, karena secara sepihak meninggalkan negeri itu pada 2012 lalu. Pabrikan asal Prancis itu hengkang menyusul penerapan sanksi internasional atas program pengembangan senjata nuklir yang dilakukan Iran.
Seperti dilaporkan Reuters, Rabu (10/2/2016), kompensasi itu diberikan atas kerugian yang diderita oleh Khodro karena Peugeot meninggalkannya secara sepihak. Padahal, pada 2011 atau setahun sebelum pabrikan berlambang singa itu hengkang, penjualan mobilnya di Iran mencapai 473.000 unit.
Bahkan dengan penjualan sebanyak itu, Peugeot telah menjadi merek asal Eropa paling laris di Negeri Para Mullah tersebut. Kini, populasi mobil Peugeot di Iran diperkirakan mencapai 4 juta unit.
"Setelah berdasarkan berbagai pemotongan, kompensasi yang harus dibayarkan Peugeot sebanyak 427,6 juta euro atas kerugian (yang diderita Khodro)," papar Managing Director Iran-Khodro Company, Hashem Yekke-Zare, yang dikutip oleh kantor berita ISNA.
Dia mengatakan kompensasi sebesar itu untuk mengganti kerugian atas diskon dan berbagai layanan yang diberikan oleh Khodro kepada konsumen. Selain itu juga biaya ganti rugi atas pengadaan suku cadang yang disediakan Khodro untuk pemilik mobil.
Bahkan royalti yang terutang oleh Peugeot sepanjang kurun waktu 2012 – 2016. Kerugian lainnya yang diajukan adalah, komitmen Peugeot untuk memberikan pelatihan kepada karyawan sebagai wujud kelangsungan kerja sama kedua belah pihak hingga masa depan.
manaa brani ... ini tdk sesuai dg kesopanan indo.dan lainnya ... silakan counter sy buat yg punya peluru kata kata
beli 40 bae hawk100/200 end up hanya 22 airworthy (sisa 18 pre assembled sampai skrg n dr 18 itu 2 dicoba locally assembled in endup jadi tugu di aceh tengah n makassar) tdk ada settlement satu penny pun sampai skrg
" ... ini tdk sesuai dg kesopanan indo.dan lainnya ... " super sekali om NR, memang nasib jadi bangsa kelamaan dijajah ya kek gini deh

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Toyota Indo malah bisa expor ke luar loh om dan kayaknya standarnya udah internasional yamobilkutu wrote:Memang si buatan thailand lebih bagus dari indo, buktinya tu mazda 2, hampir semirip cbu jepang kualitas nya.
Tapi masyarakat indo juga ga rese and tolerir bgt kok,
bukti nya hando jualan dgn kualitas interior sekacrut itu aja tetep laku.
Jadi istilah buatan thailand lebih bagus dr indo untuk market sini ga ngaruh ya.

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eh.yg jajah dulu itu sampai skrg tinggalkan byk hal sampai skrg masih dipakai ... legal system (tanpa londo cuma hukum adat n itupun lisan ... beda suku ada dispute bisa bunuh bunuh) ... medical science meski dukun (witch doctor) masih byk dipakai ... flag ceremony (old japanese chauvinism ritual) ... land certification (meski tanah punya tuhan n siapa.aj bole patok) ... toileting culture (meski byk yg masih masuk kali) ... ha ha haomsafety2 wrote:newrubble wrote:omsafety2 wrote:Kalau di Iran beda lagi tuh, Peugeot malah bayar kompensasi ke mitra usahanya karena ninggalin mereka
http://oto.detik.com/read/2016/02/10/14 ... o991101638
" ... ini tdk sesuai dg kesopanan indo.dan lainnya ... " super sekali om NR, memang nasib jadi bangsa kelamaan dijajah ya kek gini deh
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Tapi honda engga kan.hattahr wrote:Toyota Indo malah bisa expor ke luar loh om dan kayaknya standarnya udah internasional yamobilkutu wrote:Memang si buatan thailand lebih bagus dari indo, buktinya tu mazda 2, hampir semirip cbu jepang kualitas nya.
Tapi masyarakat indo juga ga rese and tolerir bgt kok,
bukti nya hando jualan dgn kualitas interior sekacrut itu aja tetep laku.
Jadi istilah buatan thailand lebih bagus dr indo untuk market sini ga ngaruh ya.
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newrubble wrote:ini sy kasihtau any fort owner in indo to make money from ths exit ...
exit of fort from indo gives blessing (in quote) to any fort owner to prosecute FMC in michigan on unfair business practice.in indo
why?
1.coz FMI is only a "paper company" ... company with no asset to guarantee liabilitiea
2. fort in tailand has no corporate structure (share) with FMI ... so dearborn county circuit court (hq fort global in db, mi) can not dismiss ths claim away from US forum.on forum-non-convenience ground (pengadilan US tak berhak mengadili krn yg berhak itu pengadilan tailand)
2. fort asia pacific (south korea or elsewhere) is deem as operational arm of fort global ... for (sama) dearborn circuit court (pengadilan negeri di dearborn) can not make same case dismissal and send ths cass away to a southkorean court
nah apa yg di tuntut?
lack of import duty payment invoice when time of sales transaction occurred ... there is a gap between amount stated in "factuur" and onroad price paid by a customer purchasing brandnew unit in indo (pls recheck)
fort may argue it was due to precedence in indo practice (but they must proof it by purchasing at least two brandnew vehicles of non-fort brand(s) in indo n bring 'em in complete form including sales docs ... to before presiding judge in dearbon county circuit court for evidencing
sending a two ina-dm brand new vehicles from jakarta to dearborn is very expensive including insurance ... and economically useless than ... offering a claimant from indo ... a fair settlement to close eyes ... sign a confidential peace accord ... accept the offer ... shutmouth forever n ... walk away
sy perkirakan settlement offer di mulai dr $;10k net after 33.3% michigan lawyer's share ... max.is around $ 50k
Bagi saya yg awam, penjelasan om NR cukup mengagetkan. Jadi import duty invoice ada dmana om knapa ga ditunjukin ke konsumen?
Sorry if it's too lame question.
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itu yang punya ford udah dikasih amunisi sama om NR buat beli mobil baru lho ... bisa beli mobil bikinan kartel Indonesia yang baru launching ...
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Sayang sekali, pdhl produknya bagus2 lho. Saya pernah punya focus 2.0, 170hp - really fun to drive. Ngirit. Harga juga murah, tapi kalah sama merk jepun sebelah. Dunno kenapa bisa gitu, bicara industri bukannya pemerintah harus agak berpihak kepada industri yg lemah? Kayanya kebalik deh, semakin kuat industrinya semakin didukung... yg lemah biarin aja mati. Udah gitu nanti statement nya bikin sakit ati pula... gak ada kontribusi katanya. Lah, gimana mo kontribusi karena harus saingan sama raksasa tanpa dukungan.
Kartel, bisa jadi itu beneran, gimana nggak kartel pemain2 dgn pangsa pasar kecil digencet abis semua. Yg rugi siapa, ya konsumen. Bayar mahal utk produk yg so so aja....
Kartel, bisa jadi itu beneran, gimana nggak kartel pemain2 dgn pangsa pasar kecil digencet abis semua. Yg rugi siapa, ya konsumen. Bayar mahal utk produk yg so so aja....
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http://www.kemenperin.go.id/artikel/953 ... abisi-Kamig4ndalf wrote:Sayang sekali, pdhl produknya bagus2 lho. Saya pernah punya focus 2.0, 170hp - really fun to drive. Ngirit. Harga juga murah, tapi kalah sama merk jepun sebelah. Dunno kenapa bisa gitu, bicara industri bukannya pemerintah harus agak berpihak kepada industri yg lemah? Kayanya kebalik deh, semakin kuat industrinya semakin didukung... yg lemah biarin aja mati. Udah gitu nanti statement nya bikin sakit ati pula... gak ada kontribusi katanya. Lah, gimana mo kontribusi karena harus saingan sama raksasa tanpa dukungan.
Kartel, bisa jadi itu beneran, gimana nggak kartel pemain2 dgn pangsa pasar kecil digencet abis semua. Yg rugi siapa, ya konsumen. Bayar mahal utk produk yg so so aja....
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Yah namanya juga bisnis. Prinsipnya the country needs income to support its huge number of people OR ..... (enter whatever word you like) siapa yg bisa kasih banyak itu juga yg dikasih privilege and protection (cartel). Kl cuma mau jualan bahkan urusan import tax maunya bisa direimburse kl sampe barang ga laku harus di re-export ya gimana mau bersaing dgn yg bisa kasih lebih. Normal lah pemikiran itu ya..
Cuma ga enaknya di customer kaya kita...makin lama si kartel ga ada lawan..yg musti disuapin juga mintanya makin lama makin banyak. Jadilah kita dikasih mobil asal bisa gelinding tp harganya muehong..hehe
Cuma ga enaknya di customer kaya kita...makin lama si kartel ga ada lawan..yg musti disuapin juga mintanya makin lama makin banyak. Jadilah kita dikasih mobil asal bisa gelinding tp harganya muehong..hehe
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newrubble wrote:eh.yg jajah dulu itu sampai skrg tinggalkan byk hal sampai skrg masih dipakai ... legal system (tanpa londo cuma hukum adat n itupun lisan ... beda suku ada dispute bisa bunuh bunuh) ... medical science meski dukun (witch doctor) masih byk dipakai ... flag ceremony (old japanese chauvinism ritual) ... land certification (meski tanah punya tuhan n siapa.aj bole patok) ... toileting culture (meski byk yg masih masuk kali) ... ha ha haomsafety2 wrote:newrubble wrote:
iya ya, bener juga om, banyak juga hal positif yang ditinggalin londo hehehe, sorry my bad
