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Re: 3M VS Perfections

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Kan sy ngebandinginnya sm 3m bos :)
Kalo sm evolutions sih dr pengamatan tmn2 yg jual kf di fatmawati sm atrium..
"Katanya lho yah"
Barangnya sama2 aja..
Yah secara pengalaman mereka juga udah puluhan tahun...
Sy sendiri lom pernah liat brgnya evolution
Tp sy yakin pasti brgnya oke lah :) kalo diliat dari spec nya
Kl ga... Ga mgkn bos maxx masukin hehe

Just my 2 cents

Hoho maap jadi oot :)
Back to 3m vs perfections

Gmn dr perbandingan 3M vs perfections?
Bukan cuma dari data statistik, tp dari penggunaannya? Kualitas ketahanan panasnya?
Umur tolak panasnya? Daya tahan warna?

Imho sih...
Sbnernya produk2 kf yg skrg ada.. Kl dibilang saingan.. Ada krg tepatnya
Kl sy blg sbnernya saling melengkapi..
Melengkapi apa?
Demand pasar dan selera masyarakat
Munculnya merk2 kf diikuti dengan varian tipe2nya..
Krn adanya demand pasar yg sdh dipelajari n selera masyarakat yg mgkn tidak terpenuhi oleh merk2 sebelumnya yg sdh lebih dulu lahir

Jng lupa juga... krn daya beli masyarakat
Bayangin kl smua org yg mau kf anti uv harus belinya vkool? Atau huper?
Hehehe
Tapi balik lagi ke prinsip : ada kualitas, ada harga (berbanding terbalik)
Tinggal balik lg ke selera konsumen. Lbh suka yg mana? Atau lebih trust merk apa?

3m vs perfections?
Hampir imbang
Kecuali produk zirconnya yg blm ada komparasi dari 3m


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Re: 3M VS Perfections

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nickel 40 buat kaca dpan skrg brpan ya?
daftar sini yaa, buat nambah uang bulanan
sini :D
sini juga
sini bisa
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sini juga bole
semuanya ud di test..
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Re: 3M VS Perfections

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fadhlil wrote:nickel 40 buat kaca dpan skrg brpan ya?
Kaca depan mobil apa bos?
Rata2 sih msh diatas 1jt yah

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Re: All About Kaca Film

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pas di dealer 3m nyoba optimax10 lewat tester lampu sorot, hasilnya adem gak nyelekit, tapi di web versi indonesia kok gak ada ya?
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hafizh wrote:pas di dealer 3m nyoba optimax10 lewat tester lampu sorot, hasilnya adem gak nyelekit, tapi di web versi indonesia kok gak ada ya?
Iya bos.. Optimax10 kan udah stop bos, dah ga kluar lg di indo. Kalaupun msh ada yg jual, itu sisa2 stok lama. Optimax10 diganti sm black beauty
Warna lbh item bb, optimax lbh transparan reflektif, ky warna2nya huper n vkool vip gt.
Kl bb kan lbh item
Cuma tolak panas lbh bagus optimax bos :D

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moztly wrote:
hafizh wrote:pas di dealer 3m nyoba optimax10 lewat tester lampu sorot, hasilnya adem gak nyelekit, tapi di web versi indonesia kok gak ada ya?
Iya bos.. Optimax10 kan udah stop bos, dah ga kluar lg di indo. Kalaupun msh ada yg jual, itu sisa2 stok lama. Optimax10 diganti sm black beauty
Warna lbh item bb, optimax lbh transparan reflektif, ky warna2nya huper n vkool vip gt.
Kl bb kan lbh item
Cuma tolak panas lbh bagus optimax bos :D

Hope it helps

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Kenapa distop bos? Bukannya Optimax 10 paling bagus yah tolak panasnya dari merek 3M ..
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LeQ wrote:
moztly wrote:
hafizh wrote:pas di dealer 3m nyoba optimax10 lewat tester lampu sorot, hasilnya adem gak nyelekit, tapi di web versi indonesia kok gak ada ya?
Iya bos.. Optimax10 kan udah stop bos, dah ga kluar lg di indo. Kalaupun msh ada yg jual, itu sisa2 stok lama. Optimax10 diganti sm black beauty
Warna lbh item bb, optimax lbh transparan reflektif, ky warna2nya huper n vkool vip gt.
Kl bb kan lbh item
Cuma tolak panas lbh bagus optimax bos :D

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Kenapa distop bos? Bukannya Optimax 10 paling bagus yah tolak panasnya dari merek 3M ..
krn udah keluar black beauty yg diklaim sbg pengganti optimax10
tadinya urutannya optimax10 trus reflect sun
nah reflect sun sm optimax itu beda2 tipis. ga gitu jauh bedanya
trus 3m keluarin black beauty, trus optimax di stop krn dianggep reflect sun bisa isi ruang yg ditinggalin sm optimax
soalnya kalo mau warna item...
ada black beauty : walaupun tolak panas ga sebagus optimax
mau tolak panas mendekati optimax: ada reflect sun
jadi segmen nya saling melengkapi

krg lebih sih begitu gosip yg beredar di kalangan pedagang kaca film

hope it helps,

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Re: 3M VS Perfections

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Kalo sm evolutions sih dr pengamatan tmn2 yg jual kf di fatmawati sm atrium..
"Katanya lho yah"
Barangnya sama2 aja..
Yah secara pengalaman mereka juga udah puluhan tahun...

hahahaha... sama2 aja?... dari mana samanya? .. udah bisa bilang sama padahal lihat aja juga blum .. KF evolutions di jakarta gw yg pegang.. mana mungkin udah ada yg lihat?.. ha ha ha
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krn udah keluar black beauty yg diklaim sbg pengganti optimax10

Wah .. ngaco nih si mostly... itu optimax10 berasal dari type 3M Black Chrome .. Dari mana ceritanya OX10 discontinue??.. di US sono masih dijual tuh 3M BC.
kalo ga ngerti2 amat mending jangan bikin rancu lahh...

di indo type KF 3M diubah2 namanya demi kepentingan marketing.

Skrg gw tanya nih .. mostly... kan tau banyak soal 3M... type 3M RS, 3M NH35 dan 3M BB itu di US kok ga ada???... why?
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Re: 3M VS Perfections

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Wuaduhhh.. Calm down bos maxx :)
Santaii boss hehe
Tmn di fatmawati n luminouz 3m sih kmrn ngabarin mrk dikirimin tester evolutions
Hehe

Jd oot lg nich.. Next nya di buat thread baru aja gmn bos?
Ksian 3m nya dilupain hehe

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maxx wrote:
krn udah keluar black beauty yg diklaim sbg pengganti optimax10

Wah .. ngaco nih si mostly... itu optimax10 berasal dari type 3M Black Chrome .. Dari mana ceritanya OX10 discontinue??.. di US sono masih dijual tuh 3M BC.
kalo ga ngerti2 amat mending jangan bikin rancu lahh...

di indo type KF 3M diubah2 namanya demi kepentingan marketing.

Skrg gw tanya nih .. mostly... kan tau banyak soal 3M... type 3M RS, 3M NH35 dan 3M BB itu di US kok ga ada???... why?
Bos... Kt disini buat sharing..
Ga perlu frontal ky gt bos.. Sy yakin bos jg org terpelajar
Kl memang kt disini ad yg salah pendapat.. Selayaknya bos sbg sesepuh di sini apalagi jago observasi kf.. Ngasih tau yg bener.. Bukan di "maaf" nyolotin bos..
Kalo semua udah pinter soal kf.. Bikin aja forum ajang debat
Dan satu lagi tolong dicatat, sy tdk pernah mengaku bahkan mengatakan sy tau banyak soal 3m
Sy ada disini untuk sharing
Jng krn kita sama2 pedagang kf trus bos bersikap antipati :)
Ajang dagang ada di business corner bos
Rasanya lucu kl org salah diserang terus?
Wajar banget bos sy sbg pemula di bidang ini sharing info?

Sperti obrolan sy dng salah satu rekan sm, sy mengaku sy ini pemula
Jd tolong...
Selow dikit bosss

I know u're smart
Tp jng tll arogan lah.. Diatas langit msh ada langit :)

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Oke...oke.... C'mon guys.... let's talk in peace .... :big_peace:

Enaknya kalo ngobrol tuh sambil ngopi dulu, ntar yah gue mau bikin kopi dulu .... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Jadi semakin banyak pilihan, maka konsumen juga yg merasa diuntungkan....siiip deh,, :off_good_job:
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hehehe
bagi atuh kopinya boss
yah udah lah... no problem for me :D

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maap yah juragan2 sm-ers

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Siiip deh kalo gitu :frm_tumbleft:
Gue permisi dulu yah, soalnya (dah pada tau laaah...) Kalo gue lama2 disini bakal jadi ancur nih thread nya (alias oot),,
Bisa2 ditimpuk sama om maxx nih ntar gue, .... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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ahh om mandala... ditimpuk pake kaca film ntar bisa dibales timpuk balik pake spare part ente kan... berat2 lagi tuh... ada tie rod, blok mesin, piston, dsb.... nah ane yg disamping deh bertugas mengsortir nya.... :big_weee:
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC !!!! Hus...hus.....sana...sana..... ini New Member of OOTers Mechanic jgn bikin rusak threat KF :e-naughty:

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wah gila serem amat.. nimpuk pake roll kaca film dibales sm sparepart tronton
wkwkwkw

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mandala1 wrote:Jadi semakin banyak pilihan, maka konsumen juga yg merasa diuntungkan....siiip deh,, :off_good_job:
betul banget bos mandala
setuju
tinggal balik lg ke konsumen untuk semakin jeli memilih

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yup, btul skali... penjual bole menawarkan ini itu dgn berbagai macam cara marketing nya... tp kputusan teutep di tangan pembeli... mahal bukan bearti bagus, murah bukan bearti jelek, jago ngomong dan marketing bukan bearti jago dalam praktek pengerjaan nya (pengalaman ane ama bengkel body repair neh)...
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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moztly wrote:Wuaduhhh.. Calm down bos maxx :)
Santaii boss hehe
Tmn di fatmawati n luminouz 3m sih kmrn ngabarin mrk dikirimin tester evolutions
Hehe

Jd oot lg nich.. Next nya di buat thread baru aja gmn bos?
Ksian 3m nya dilupain hehe

Pisss
Gmn dr perbandingan 3M vs perfections?
Bukan cuma dari data statistik, tp dari penggunaannya? Kualitas ketahanan panasnya?
Umur tolak panasnya? Daya tahan warna?


Wush.. kita masih santai2 aja kok... he he he..
Btw, ga ada yg lupain 3M tu.. 3M tetap merupakan salah satu KF papan atas yg memiliki kualitas bagus.

Perfection vs 3M? .. soal performa tergantung type KF yg dibanding2, krn tiap merk (terutama KF branded) punya type unggulan.
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DOHC wrote:yup, btul skali... penjual bole menawarkan ini itu dgn berbagai macam cara marketing nya... tp kputusan teutep di tangan pembeli... mahal bukan bearti bagus, murah bukan bearti jelek, jago ngomong dan marketing bukan bearti jago dalam praktek pengerjaan nya (pengalaman ane ama bengkel body repair neh)...
Buener banget bos... barang boleh sama, harga boleh sama atau bisa juga lebih murah ... tp kualitas kerja dan after sales service belum tentu sama :D
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mandala1 wrote:Siiip deh kalo gitu :frm_tumbleft:
Gue permisi dulu yah, soalnya (dah pada tau laaah...) Kalo gue lama2 disini bakal jadi ancur nih thread nya (alias oot),,
Bisa2 ditimpuk sama om maxx nih ntar gue, .... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Re: 3M VS Perfections

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moztly wrote:
fadhlil wrote:nickel 40 buat kaca dpan skrg brpan ya?
Kaca depan mobil apa bos?
Rata2 sih msh diatas 1jt yah

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sx4 boss...
yang rekomend buat budget dibawah 1jt buat kaca depan doang, apa yaa??
pengennya yang warna2 gelap 40%, ga harus item (dan jangan silveR)
daftar sini yaa, buat nambah uang bulanan
sini :D
sini juga
sini bisa
sini bisa
sini juga bole
semuanya ud di test..
thx..
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fadhlil wrote:
moztly wrote:
fadhlil wrote:nickel 40 buat kaca dpan skrg brpan ya?
Kaca depan mobil apa bos?
Rata2 sih msh diatas 1jt yah

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sx4 boss...
yang rekomend buat budget dibawah 1jt buat kaca depan doang, apa yaa??
pengennya yang warna2 gelap 40%, ga harus item (dan jangan silveR)
pe em sent yah bos

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