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maskopat wrote:ye.. mundur mah bukan berarti perlambatan.. mundur itu ya mundur... :mrgreen:
maju percepatan ya mundur perlambatan om ...

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zweifellos wrote:
maskopat wrote:ye.. mundur mah bukan berarti perlambatan.. mundur itu ya mundur... :mrgreen:
maju percepatan ya mundur perlambatan om ...

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Nggak usah berdebat Oms. Maju n mundur sama aja koq.

Cuma arah nya aja berlawanan.. :ngacir:
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uch wrote:
zweifellos wrote:
maskopat wrote:ye.. mundur mah bukan berarti perlambatan.. mundur itu ya mundur... :mrgreen:
maju percepatan ya mundur perlambatan om ...

:ngacir:
Nggak usah berdebat Oms. Maju n mundur sama aja koq.

Cuma arah nya aja berlawanan.. :ngacir:
iya om. percepatan ama perlambatan itu sama aja. cuman 'arah' nya aja yang berlawanan. tos dulu om uch. :mrgreen:

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yee... kalo mau ngelambat, jangan pake gigi mundur.. pake rem... :ngacir:
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ato giginya di mundurin om kopat.
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zweifellos wrote:ato giginya di mundurin om kopat.
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emang bisa lagi maju ke depan ngoper gigi mundur trus dilepas pedal koplingnya??? :mrgreen:
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giginya dimundurin om kopat (engine brake) bukan masuk gigi mundur. :big_peace:

selamat berbuka puasa buat yang menjalankannya. coba list dulu makanan/minuman pembukanya. :mrgreen:
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ooow......
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sejak pake premium, gigi mundur saya jadi makin kenceng................. :big_slap:

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aldy wrote:
DOHC wrote:habis ngisi premium lagi full tank... ga lupa campur acetone lagi 100cc... ternyata ipah ama lipina ane kuat jg yahh dicekokin premium busuk... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
Lah lipina ane dari baru ampe detik ini premium terus bro padahal lumayan sering geber2.. tapi isinya sering di satu tempat SPBU (pasti pas) aja sih.. :big_peace:
tapi ya gitu kadang2 rpm atas suka gelitik2 halus.. :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
semoga akan tetap aman terkendali gitu seterusnya.
soalnya, di milis sebelah, ada yg jg strict selalu ngisi di satu SPBU Pertamina COCO (Company Owned, Company Operated) pun, pd awalnya merasa sgt confidence kalau gak bakalan masalah.... tp akhirnya, stlh 2 mggu ramai2 kemaren itu, kena juga FP nya....klo gak salah mobilnya Proton apa gitu... *fortunately, msh masa garansi.
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ah, dewi fortunar masih menlindungi member milist sebelah tersebut... :e-pray:
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tapi kalo populasi proton emang udah banyak......apakah kira2 garansi tsb tetap berlaku atau gugur sepihak ya....? seperti merek lain...... :ungg:
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gw belum ke honda lagi nih untuk claim, nanti klo dah claim lagi, gw share deh hasilnya disini.
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Berita mengenai FP di detik.com kemarin : http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/08/18/19 ... o991102638

kok beritanya cuma di detik.com doang ya? apa saya kelewatan berita di tempat yg lain? :e-think:
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BMW amrik, masalah fuel pump malah menambah garansi... :frm_tumbright:
http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/08/09/13 ... ncul-di-as
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sekarang mau cobain petronas ah...
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http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/08/18/19 ... o991102638
Namun, hasil lab terhadap sampel premium yang diambil dalam uji petik yang dilakukan BPH Migas itu juga menemukan adanya sampel bensin premium 88 yang berasal dari fuel pump mobil taksi yang keruh mengandung gum dan sulfur melebihi batas maksimum dan mengandung beberapa jenis logam (Cu, Zn, Fe, Pb).
Gum itu apa sih om, permen karet?
Trus logam-logam itu dalam bentuk murni, serbuk, atau senyawa dengan Sulfur?
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andy1800 wrote:
aldy wrote:
DOHC wrote:habis ngisi premium lagi full tank... ga lupa campur acetone lagi 100cc... ternyata ipah ama lipina ane kuat jg yahh dicekokin premium busuk... :e-think: :e-think: :e-think:
Lah lipina ane dari baru ampe detik ini premium terus bro padahal lumayan sering geber2.. tapi isinya sering di satu tempat SPBU (pasti pas) aja sih.. :big_peace:
tapi ya gitu kadang2 rpm atas suka gelitik2 halus.. :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
semoga akan tetap aman terkendali gitu seterusnya.
soalnya, di milis sebelah, ada yg jg strict selalu ngisi di satu SPBU Pertamina COCO (Company Owned, Company Operated) pun, pd awalnya merasa sgt confidence kalau gak bakalan masalah.... tp akhirnya, stlh 2 mggu ramai2 kemaren itu, kena juga FP nya....klo gak salah mobilnya Proton apa gitu... *fortunately, msh masa garansi.
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ilhami wrote:http://oto.detik.com/read/2010/08/18/19 ... o991102638
Namun, hasil lab terhadap sampel premium yang diambil dalam uji petik yang dilakukan BPH Migas itu juga menemukan adanya sampel bensin premium 88 yang berasal dari fuel pump mobil taksi yang keruh mengandung gum dan sulfur melebihi batas maksimum dan mengandung beberapa jenis logam (Cu, Zn, Fe, Pb).
Gum itu apa sih om, permen karet?
Trus logam-logam itu dalam bentuk murni, serbuk, atau senyawa dengan Sulfur?
hah..ada kandungan Pb....?? Timbal dong..... :e-snooty:
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Cu = tembaga
Zn = seng
Fe = besi
Pb = Timbal

pertanyaannya : dari mana semua material itu bisa ada di tangki? :e-think:
masa konsumen yg masukin semua material tsb ke tangki?
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Kok Kakak Pembina(sa) masih bingung kalo premium masih bertimbal? :big_weee:

Cu, Zn, dan Fe apakah merupakan campuran bahan untuk tangki bensin?
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saya gak bingung kok.......malah bangga.......... :big_weee:

............. :ngacir: :ngacir:
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jalu wrote:te]

hah..ada kandungan Pb....?? Timbal dong..... :e-snooty:
lah, memang premium masih bertimbal kok.
Kan perusahan TEL menyogok pejabat Indonesia untuk menggunakan produk mereka yang sudah dilarang.
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kesha wrote:
jalu wrote:te]

hah..ada kandungan Pb....?? Timbal dong..... :e-snooty:
lah, memang premium masih bertimbal kok.
Kan perusahan TEL menyogok pejabat Indonesia untuk menggunakan produk mereka yang sudah dilarang.
TEL dilarang karena berbahaya bagi kesehatan tetapi lebih murah dari bahan kimia lain untuk meningkatkan nilai oktan Premium ,inilah resiko BBM subsidi bahan bakunya juga ikut ikutan di Subsidi PERLU DIKETAHUI subsidi BBM bukan hanya dinikmati oleh masyarakat indonesia, tapi dinikmati juga oleh Karyawan pertamina dalam bentuk " Lain " :big_peace:
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solar_kerosen wrote:
kesha wrote:
jalu wrote:te]

hah..ada kandungan Pb....?? Timbal dong..... :e-snooty:
lah, memang premium masih bertimbal kok.
Kan perusahan TEL menyogok pejabat Indonesia untuk menggunakan produk mereka yang sudah dilarang.
TEL dilarang karena berbahaya bagi kesehatan tetapi lebih murah dari bahan kimia lain untuk meningkatkan nilai oktan Premium ,inilah resiko BBM subsidi bahan bakunya juga ikut ikutan di Subsidi PERLU DIKETAHUI subsidi BBM bukan hanya dinikmati oleh masyarakat indonesia, tapi dinikmati juga oleh Karyawan pertamina dalam bentuk " Lain " :big_peace:
kalo boleh disimpulkan berarti tanpa TEL sebenarnya RON premium bukan 88 ? :e-think:
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