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Knalpot wrote:rasanya space kabin lebih gedhe apv, tp lebih enak/nyaman avxen...
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maskopat wrote:
bisti wrote:dah..biar kt orang bilang avxen jelek gak enak kayak apa..tetep akan laris
saya ngeliat itulah hebatnya daihatsu & toyota..
semua pabrik mobil bisa bikin mobil lebih bagus dari avxen...sy yakin 100%..
tapi seharga dgn dia ato lebih murah dgn spec sama ato lebih...wow kagak ada yg bisa..
kalo ada sy inden duluan...
coba kompetitor tunjukin... :frm_salut:
kalo luxio dan apv, apakah beda spec dengan av xen? harga mirip2... bedanya mesin di bawah jok depan aja... dan semuanya mesin 1.5L, kalo av xen ada yang 1.0 dan 1.3..
nah faktor itulah ane bilang yg bikin avxen jadi super laku.....ada idungnya, dan juga modelnya yg jauh lebih cantik daripada saingannya di rentang harga yg sama....ini menurut ane lho.... :mrgreen:
Walaupun mesin kalah gede, suspensi yg kata orang mantul2, interior yg lebih sempit, kualitas material dan ride yg sebelas dua belas sama saingannya, tapi modelnya itu yg ngejual.
APV/Luxio modelnya masih ada "soul"nya suzuki carry/zebra espass yg modelnya kotak roti, gak ada tarikan2 aerodinamisnya, dan mesin dikolong, yg dari dulu udah ber-image mobil yg affordable (baca: murah). Walaupun katanya selera orang beda2, tapi udah terbukti bahwa masy indonesia lebih pengen mobil yg bermodel spt avanza. Kalo kita mao objektif nih (bayangkan avanza baru aja dilaunched sama TAM), kalo TAM pasang harga avanza dilevel harga GL pun, ane bilang masih bisa bersaing kalo diliat dari modelnya aja.

Ane liat alphard pun suksesnya karena faktor itu, karena modelnya yg pas di mata yg liat. padahal mungkin kualitas dan rasanya sih hampir2 sama aja sama minivan2 premium lain.
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ane tambahin: yg bikin laku karna ga ada saingannnya,,,, yg bener2 saingan face to face
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badak kemana nih??
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ak4ng wrote:ane tambahin: yg bikin laku karna ga ada saingannnya,,,, yg bener2 saingan face to face
saingan F2F nya sebenernya ya itu APV/Arena, Luxio, dll tapi mereka beda bentuknya sama Apanja. GL1.5 juga benernya termasuk saingan cuma harganya sedikit lebih mahal aja.
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Risol1 wrote:
ak4ng wrote:ane tambahin: yg bikin laku karna ga ada saingannnya,,,, yg bener2 saingan face to face
saingan F2F nya sebenernya ya itu APV/Arena, Luxio, dll tapi mereka beda bentuknya sama Apanja. GL1.5 juga benernya termasuk saingan cuma harganya sedikit lebih mahal aja.
lihat posisi mesin dan penggeraknya!! sama ga???
maksud saya yg f2f seperti jazz vs yaris vs swift
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ooo...jd yg bikin avxen laku tuh itu ya?g ada lawan f2f, pas kbetulan yg kayak itulah yg dicari kbanyakan orang Indonesia
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betul sekali,,, cobain dulu ntar ketagihan lhooo
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ak4ng wrote:badak kemana nih??
Lagi merumput..
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ak4ng wrote:betul sekali,,, cobain dulu ntar ketagihan lhooo
Justru krn udah pernah nyoba av-xen aku mlh gak pgn beli k4ng, apalagi smp ketagihan. Mungkin kl pas nyetir disebelahku Sandra Dewi baru deh aku ketagihan nyetir apanja. :mrgreen:
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dak,, mnurut ente mningan ipah desel ap kucing garong???
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ak4ng wrote:dak,, mnurut ente mningan ipah desel ap kucing garong???
Jawaban om BADAK pasti kucing garong lah, apa ente nggak lihat avatarnya? :big_weee:
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ah masa??? kelebihannya ap aj???
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ak4ng wrote:betul sekali,,, cobain dulu ntar ketagihan lhooo
duh, maap bro. Ane tipe 'g mau seragam'. Jd kalo pake yg 'kebanyakan' kurang suka (g peduli enaknya kayak apa). Makanya ane cinta sedan jadul ane, lha disini cuma saya yg punya corabs. Stiap di cucian mobil ditanyain 'taun 2rb brp bang?'
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@ aburaza: pengen liat corabs thn 2rbannya
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esh wrote:
ak4ng wrote:dak,, mnurut ente mningan ipah desel ap kucing garong???
Jawaban om BADAK pasti kucing garong lah, apa ente nggak lihat avatarnya? :big_weee:
Jawabannya relatif k4ng. Ipah diesel nya tipe apa E, G, ato V. Ama kucing garong nya tipe apa?
Kebetulan di rumah aku adanya ipah diesel G ama panther Grand Touring. N pilihanku ya si kucing garong. Dari segi kenyamanan mungkin kalah dgn ipah diesel, tp dari segi tampang saya lebih suka grand touring.
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ak4ng wrote:@ aburaza: pengen liat corabs thn 2rbannya
om FM keknya punya tuh.
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BADAK wrote:
esh wrote:
ak4ng wrote:dak,, mnurut ente mningan ipah desel ap kucing garong???
Jawaban om BADAK pasti kucing garong lah, apa ente nggak lihat avatarnya? :big_weee:
Jawabannya relatif k4ng. Ipah diesel nya tipe apa E, G, ato V. Ama kucing garong nya tipe apa?
Kebetulan di rumah aku adanya ipah diesel G ama panther Grand Touring. N pilihanku ya si kucing garong. Dari segi kenyamanan mungkin kalah dgn ipah diesel, tp dari segi tampang saya lebih suka grand touring.
yg E dak,, vs kucing garong
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ak4ng wrote:
Risol1 wrote:
ak4ng wrote:ane tambahin: yg bikin laku karna ga ada saingannnya,,,, yg bener2 saingan face to face
saingan F2F nya sebenernya ya itu APV/Arena, Luxio, dll tapi mereka beda bentuknya sama Apanja. GL1.5 juga benernya termasuk saingan cuma harganya sedikit lebih mahal aja.
lihat posisi mesin dan penggeraknya!! sama ga???
maksud saya yg f2f seperti jazz vs yaris vs swift
Ohh maksudnya F2F itu sama bentuk dan sebangun gitu kang?
Ane maksudnya F2F itu yg langsung head on di pasar yg sama dan memperebutkan calon konsumen yg sama (artinya kalo orang lagi timbang2 pengen beli apanja, biasanya dia juga lagi timbang2 APV/Luxio walaupun beda bentuk dan spec).

Kalo pake kriteria itu berarti camry dan vios F2F atau saingan dong kang, kan sama2 posisi mesin dan penggeraknya?
Atau entar ada yg bilang kalo yaris bukan F2F sama jazz karena yaris kan cuma 4 speed, jazz udah 5.........hihihihihihi kabor ah sebelum digiles apanja :ngacir:
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Ada betulnya APV dan Luxio merupakan kompetitor dari apanja karena sebelum saya memutuskan ambil Luxio sempat membandingkan dengan APV dan apanja.

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kalo saya mbandinkannya dengan posisi mesin,penggerak,kapasitas mesin&kabin,,
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imho....ya k4ng

ane coba untuk membandingkan pake cara ente ya:
avansa, luxio dan APV dg kapasitas yang sama2 1.5L

1. kapasitas mesin sama2 1.5 L (avansa dan luxio sama2 pake mesin 3SZ-VE)
2. Perbedaan cuma penempatan posisi blok mesin doang (avansa di depan sedang luxio dan APV di bawah jok). tetapi tetep sama2 diatas chasis.
3. ketiganya sama2 RWD
4. untuk kabin ane rasa masih agak legaan Luxio dan APV dibanding avansa.

imho lho k4ng.....CMIIW :big_peace:
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@andrian: utk nomer 4 itu emang mutlak, g pake imho lg...........................imho lho ya :big_weee:
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@mas doq: :weekk:
cuma kalo dibanding 2nd row luxio kykn 2nd row APV agak sedikit sempit ya mas. :e-think:

@ak4ng :imho....kelebihan dari avansa adalah bentukny yg "bermoncong" sehingga lebih diminati dibanding luxio (yg sebagian orang masih merasa grandmax versi mewah=termasuk ane :upss: ) dan APV.

dan satu lagi. yg pas banget f2f dg avansa 1.3L gak lain gak bukan, the one and only cuma kembaranny doang Xenia 1.3L.
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tetapi memang patut pula kita tunggu perkembangan lebih lanjut dari the next avansa ini.
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wah belom pernah masuk luxio/grandmax oom, jd kurang tau utk perbandingan space nya antara 2 itu dan apv :upss:
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