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hmm... kalo judulnya masih ada kijang, ane gak yakin pake monokok... apalagi ditambah FWD... :e-think:
kita lihat aja gimana perkembangan si kijang.. mobil keluarga dan andalan indonesia... :e-clap:
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FortunerMan wrote:
DOHC wrote:plg2 facelift doank.... kalo utk ganti model ipah sehh kayanya masi lama dehhh... blom kedengeran sehhh MPV ladder frame RWD ber cc 2000 bermesin bensin toyota yg termasuk produk global nya beredar di luaran selaen ipah ini....
Kan gak harus ladder frame Innova barunya?

Banyak option bikin MPV terjangkau, seperti pake pake basis Previa atau Sienna lama...ganti body + interior di dowgrade...jadi deh Innova baru. Sukur2 Innova baru dapet mesin lama (2.0 atau 2.4) Camry, atau 1.8 dari Corolla.
wah kalo ga ladder frame... ada yg protes ntar...
kalo ane pikir sih... jaman kijang udah dimatiin aja, sampe innova aja udah cukup... :upss:
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Sepertinya...kalo menurut ane - jaman MPV pake ladder frame truck udah tewas di era bensin non-subsidi sebentar lagi. Plus jalanan Indonesia kan semakin membaik - walaupun masih banyak yg caur.
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nah iya maksud ane juga begitu... kenapa innova harus ladder frame? ga ngerti alesan nya apa... padahal design nya bisa direndahin dikit sama body agak dipapas tingginya lebih keren. toh jaman kijang kelas innova udah bukan buat ngangkut beras lagi...
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masalah nya apakah mobil2 FWD, sasis monokok, mesin 2000 cc (kalo bisa kecilan) itu sanggup punya daya tampung segede ipah dan tetep kuat buat ngangkut barang seabrek2 kalo pulang kampung dan rute nanjak2...

nissan uda coba dgn grand livina dan terbukti failed (walaupun blom failed miserably).... honda dgn pret, dan ini lebi parah....
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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eh, avxen itu monokok atau ladder frame ya? :e-think:
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poeticmind wrote:nah iya maksud ane juga begitu... kenapa innova harus ladder frame? ga ngerti alesan nya apa... padahal design nya bisa direndahin dikit sama body agak dipapas tingginya lebih keren. toh jaman kijang kelas innova udah bukan buat ngangkut beras lagi...
Kalo dijaman bensin murah sih OK OK aja - walaupun Toyota maunya biar development cost murah - jadinya malah unik. A Hilux nyamar jadi MPV - pastinya awet tuh Innova2 jaman skrg.
DOHC wrote:masalah nya apakah mobil2 FWD, sasis monokok, mesin 2000 cc (kalo bisa kecilan) itu sanggup punya daya tampung segede ipah dan tetep kuat buat ngangkut barang seabrek2 kalo pulang kampung dan rute nanjak2... nissan uda coba dgn grand livina dan terbukti failed (walaupun blom failed miserably).... honda dgn pret, dan ini lebi parah....
Gak fail kali...penjualan GL dan Freed kan lumayan? Ya belum mengalahkan Toyota...tapi ya lumayan. Kalo gak ada Livina series Nissan gak semaju skrg di Indonesia. Freed juga lumayan penjualannya

Di era bensin mahal - sepertinya Toyota gak bisa lagi pake ladder frame. Avanza aja kuat2 aja buat kuda beban org Indonesia, asal pake "resep" Toyota ane rasa bisa2 aja. Resepnya...being average (gak nyaman2 amat, gak kenceng2 amat, gak hi tech2 amat), tapi rock solid reliability. Harus diingat siklus life cycle Kijang 7 thnan...jadi Toyota harus mikirin tren sekian taun ke depan.
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emang sehh ntuh lipina pret banyak kita liat di jakarta sini.... tapi coba kalo kita lagi keluar kota, makin menjauh dari ibukota, makin jarang jg tuh ane liat... yah walaupun masi kliatan di jalanan, tapi tetep ga seheboh sebanyak di jakarta.... tetep masi lebi sering kliatan duo kaleng atau ipah...

tapi kalo rencana toyota mo kluarin mpv yg irit, bertenaga, bisa angkut 7 org dgn nyaman, bukan nyiksa dan awet sehh.... biar kata sasis monokok, FWD jg ane dukung dehhh...
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Ya masih Top 10 Indonesia lah. Kalo diliat sebagai Innova/Avanza killer ya memang total failure. Tapi kalo buat naikin penjualan Nissan ya big success.

Mesin Corolla 1.8...gak usah Dual VVT-i...mayan cocok buat Innova baru. Mesin udah uzur...udah murah, bandel.
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Jeep Grand CHerokee

ini dia mobil yg dulunya pasti punya banyak penggemar di Indonesia

calon lawannya CX-9 deh
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CX9 bukan masuk kategori CUV ya daripada SUV? kalo GC baru masuk ke CUV? atau SUV?
ehem, gini maksudnya, CX9 ada low range gear? :e-think:
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DOHC wrote:emang sehh ntuh lipina pret banyak kita liat di jakarta sini.... tapi coba kalo kita lagi keluar kota, makin menjauh dari ibukota, makin jarang jg tuh ane liat... yah walaupun masi kliatan di jalanan, tapi tetep ga seheboh sebanyak di jakarta.... tetep masi lebi sering kliatan duo kaleng atau ipah...

tapi kalo rencana toyota mo kluarin mpv yg irit, bertenaga, bisa angkut 7 org dgn nyaman, bukan nyiksa dan awet sehh.... biar kata sasis monokok, FWD jg ane dukung dehhh...
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maskopat wrote:CX9 bukan masuk kategori CUV ya daripada SUV? kalo GC baru masuk ke CUV? atau SUV?
ehem, gini maksudnya, CX9 ada low range gear? :e-think:
CUV, SUV, Cross Over?

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ya GC nggak sekelas dengan CX9, kalau bener masuk berarti kelas New Touareg..
Dan berarti harganya juga....................................
Anda sudah TEST DRIVE belum?...
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harganya naik naik.. ke puncak gunung.. tinggi tinggi sekaleeee... :mrgreen:
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apanya yg naik? :e-think:
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Hm... Ada yg keluarin mobil murah meriah gak ya????? :roll:
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mobil (baru) murah meriah??
geely panda :mrgreen:
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ada yg udah test drive geely belum? lucu juga kayaknya...
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iya neh... kok gak da yg bahas mobil china ya?
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rasanya pernah ada yg test drive... tapi lupa siapa ya... :e-think:
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yg pernah test drive si geely panda ini udh ada kok, tuh si oom maho yg pernah, lengkap nya: serayamotor.com/diskusi/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14324
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wkwkwkwkwk... :upss:
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