Penantang Avanza - Xenia dari Suzuki

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FortunerMan wrote:makin jelas bodynya...

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- CUT -
Wheeeeeee....

Cakep2! :frm_tumbright: Walau, IMO, kok headlampnya rada lebay dimensinya dan proporsi diliat dari angle ini y? Tapi uda model2 sekarang lah, headlamp 'ditarik' ke belakang sampe naik2 gitu di fender hehehe....

Makin rame nih 'ring' nya Avanza.... Tapi, sepenglihatan dari luar, keknya 3rd row rada2 bakal tersiksa tuh hehehe.... Claustrophobic. :mrgreen:
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Ganteng kan? padahal masih trondol pake pelek kaleng. Apalagi kalo udah pake sepatu benerannya.
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mantap, mantap tampilan luarnya. dari depan gagah, dari belakang cakep keliatannya.

cuman GC nya keknya kecil bgt ya? masih lebih besar innova (apalagi dibanding avanza) kayanya ya kalo dilihat dari foto?
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Apalagi kalo sijuki berani masukin versi dieselnya. Tambah mantap nih persaingan.
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Ini pake pelek yg bener

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Btw...namanya ERTIGA beneran lho...hehehe...bagus juga.
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Keren juga tuh RIII :frm_tumbleft:
tapi kok jadi MPV ceper seperti GL
wow ternyata Sijuki ini raja di India lho :e-clap: seperti TAM + ADM di indo
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koq ngeliat siluet kaca samping saya teringat GL yaaa... seperti melihat APV baru yang teringat dengan serena... :D
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Versi Indonesia di urut jadi lebih panjang gak ya?
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Sayang si naldo babehnya udah gak di sujuki lagi...jadi bisa dapet info dari yg bener2 tau. :mrgreen:
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kalo RIII cuma untuk market india si masa bodo kalo cuma ada versi manual...tapi kalo ada rencana dipasarkan disini, berharap ada versi maticnya :D

IMO, sijuki di indo seperti kurang kreatif mengolah demand pasar disini....didatangkan 2 varian city car dari india tapi gak ada yg versi maticnya, sukses di india bukan jaminan sukses di indonesia...krn selera pasarnya gak persis sama...tetap perlu ada penyesuaian spec demi memenuhi selera pasar disini.
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jalu wrote:kalo RIII cuma untuk market india si masa bodo kalo cuma ada versi manual...tapi kalo ada rencana dipasarkan disini, berharap ada versi maticnya :D

IMO, sijuki di indo seperti kurang kreatif mengolah demand pasar disini....didatangkan 2 varian city car dari india tapi gak ada yg versi maticnya, sukses di india bukan jaminan sukses di indonesia...krn selera pasarnya gak persis sama...tetap perlu ada penyesuaian spec demi memenuhi selera pasar disini.
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tapi syukurlah..karena sijuki gak nekad masukin model yang ini (Dzire) :

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jalu wrote:tapi syukurlah..karena sijuki gak nekad masukin model yang ini (Dzire) :

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dan sayangnya..sang penerus "the little rhino" yang jadi icon suzuki justru tidak dipasarkan disini....

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kalopun takut terjebak dng aturan pajak 4wd (seperti nasib carribian yang harganya jadi melonjak)....bisa saja part 4wd nya dijual terpisah seperti yang pernah dilakukan nissan untuk terrano...
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kl parts 4wd nya dijual terpisah emg jadi ngaruh ke harga jual om jal??? bikin harganya berlipet2??
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Karena jaman2 2000an ke atas, ATPM ngeliat market buat SUV kompak 3 pintu uda menipis keknya om Jal, orang larinya ke SUV 5 pintu semua. IMO. Makanya model2 Feroza Taft Jimny diskontinyu semua dah jadinya di Indon, sayang y?
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Nightster Guy wrote:Karena jaman2 2000an ke atas, ATPM ngeliat market buat SUV kompak 3 pintu uda menipis keknya om Jal, orang larinya ke SUV 5 pintu semua. IMO. Makanya model2 Feroza Taft Jimny diskontinyu semua dah jadinya di Indon, sayang y?
ini ada info dr beberapa sales yg saya dapatkan :

sales daihatsu: sejak masuknya kelas Dbl cabin, taft/rocky independent 4wd penjualannya terpuruk karena harga jualnya hampir sama dng dbl cab...sedangkan dbl cab penampilan dan teknologinya jauh lbh modern. akhirnya diskontinyu

sales sijuki : peminat katana sebenernya masih ada meski gak sebanyak sebelumnya, terutama yg membutuhkan kendaraan yang kompak, GC tinggi irit bensin...tapi suspensi katana sudah dianggap obsolete..untuk user dewasa ini umumnya sudah lebih menuntut kenyaman...sedangkan carribian krn 4wd maka harganya jadi mahal, sedangkan teknologi dan model yang dimiliki masih jadul..sehingga dimata konsumen sisi value for moneynya sangat kurang. akhirnya diskontinyu
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sales toyota: makanya beli si irit nan kenchanggggg saja, dijamin gak nyesel :big_smoking:
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ak4ng wrote:kl parts 4wd nya dijual terpisah emg jadi ngaruh ke harga jual om jal??? bikin harganya berlipet2??
dari basic pricenya (blm ditambah pajak).. SUV/CUV versi 4wd tentu akan lebih mahal karena part yang digunakan lebih banyak....nah sudah lebih mahal, lalu ditambah lagi dng beberapa aturan pajak dr pemerintah indonesia sbb :

-pajak kendaraan kelas "JIP" yang lebih mahal dr kelas "Minibus"
-pajak kendaraan "penggerak empat roda" yang lebih mahal dari pajak kendaraan "penggerak dua roda"
- *dan masih ada pajak gono gini (berdasarkan kapasitas mesin dan unsur pajak lainnya)

Base car + part 4wd + pajak JIP (indonesia) + Pajak 4wd (indonesia) + Pajak gono gini (indonesia) = MUAHAAALLLL.... :D........dan jangan lupa...pajak tahunannya juga ikut2an mahal :upss:

Nah..kalo part 4wd dijual terpisah, maka mbl tsb bisa "diselamatkan" dari unsur pajak "penggerak empat roda" karena mbl tsb dijual dr ATPM dalam kondisi "penggerak dua roda"..... langkah ini sudah pernah dilakukan oleh Nissan untuk Terrano, dan beruntung saya sempet mencobanya di Pekan Baru krn mbl antar jemput bandara pake Terrano + kit 4wd. (ada 6 unit) :D

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FortunerMan wrote:Ini pake pelek yg bener

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Btw...namanya ERTIGA beneran lho...hehehe...bagus juga.
Ternyata wheelbase-nya 2.470 m yah sama dengan Freed CMIIW.

Kalo dibanding sama Freed overhang depan dan belakangnya juga mirip2, jadi mungkin bisa dikira2 ruang dalamnya akan sekecil apa (secara Freed keliatannya lebih tinggi dan management ruang honda biasanya lebih bagus)

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ekokw wrote:
FortunerMan wrote:Ini pake pelek yg bener

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Btw...namanya ERTIGA beneran lho...hehehe...bagus juga.
Ternyata wheelbase-nya 2.470 m yah sama dengan Freed CMIIW.

Kalo dibanding sama Freed overhang depan dan belakangnya juga mirip2, jadi mungkin bisa dikira2 ruang dalamnya akan sekecil apa (secara Freed keliatannya lebih tinggi dan management ruang honda biasanya lebih bagus)

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yang di bold...
dapet info spec dr mana pak....? bs dishare link nya :thanks:
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Oh ya om Jalu linknya ketinggalan :) Saya dapet infonya dari sini, tapi saya baru nemu info tentang wheelbasenya aja sih:
http://www.motorbeam.com/cars/maruti-er ... ed-ertiga/

Ngga tau juga apakah disini akan sama persisi spesifikasinya...