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Re: Needa suggest: Grand Vitara 2.4 or Everest 4x2 tdci

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CRV gen 3 2.0 M/T tahun 2007 sepertinya juga masih masuk ke budget om. Tapi kalo memang cari kenyamanan, T31 dan CRV merupakan kandidat terbaik. T31 bantingan empuk, CRV klo untuk kenyamanan menangnya di 2nd row yang "sangat luas" di kelasnya.
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aada badak lagi galau,.kalo ane sih meningan everest lhaaa,. meskipun dgn segala kekurangannya,. tp ttp guantenngggg and cowo bgt,.
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andy1800 wrote:
maskopat wrote:lokasi TS di mana nih? keperluan mobil untuk apa? :e-think:
bukannya dah jelas di ujung kulon ya?
kalo di ujung kulon, cocoknya sih pake yang 4WD.. macam fortie V beneran (bukan tempel emblem), evie atau pasport..
kalo aja si cula satu mau mobil yang lebih tua lagi, pajero gen 2 sangat pantas untuk masuk perhitungan. harga juga murah.. tapi sayang gengsinya turun karena dianggap panther [cencored]... :frm_bang_head:
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kalo kenyamanan, ane sih pegang everest daripada T31...
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Kenyamanan T31 kalah ya ama evie ?
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yang ane rasakan iya Om...
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Ane blm pernah TD evie , tp wa ngira Evie tipikalnya SUV tangguh macam Fortie dan PS jadi kenyamanan pasti kalah ama CUV ala T31 dan CRV.
Tp sekali lagi mohon maaf krn wa sendiri gak pernah coba Evie
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campoeran wrote:Ane blm pernah TD evie , tp wa ngira Evie tipikalnya SUV tangguh macam Fortie dan PS jadi kenyamanan pasti kalah ama CUV ala T31 dan CRV.
Tp sekali lagi mohon maaf krn wa sendiri gak pernah coba Evie
justru ladder frame akan lebih nyaman daripada monokok om.. karena per dan shock breaker tidak dipasang di body, tapi di ladder nya. sedangkan monokok, langsung dipasang di chassis yang merupakan bodynya juga..
kecuali monokok yang dipasang sub frame untuk suspensi.
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@om Kopat, mungkin kenyamanan yg anda maksud krn penggunaan d jalur luar kota yg notabene kdg tdk 100 persen mulus, msh byk jalan berlubang or kerikil. Klo kata sy utk penggunaan perkotaan dgn jalan mulus, monokok lbh enak tp klo ud jalur semi luar kota, ladder lbh enak. Tp plg sipp yach yg "hibrid" like GV.
@om Badak, ente anak kediri kan, klo trayeknya luar kota, mending evie deh, secara biasa pake pather yg disel n vibrate, bw bensin aneh lho rasanya(bakal kangen sensasi suara n getaran yg mendesir jiwa). Klo Gv 2.4 ane g rekomen krn rare item, klo 2.0, dalkot OK, luar kota "giring" bawaannya. Disel Evie, Bensin T30 (g suka model t31, imo ini prod gagal nisan dr segi desain), Captiva 2.4(ud 200an neh d iklan jitu). All new Crv msh mahal.
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Xous wrote:@om Kopat, mungkin kenyamanan yg anda maksud krn penggunaan d jalur luar kota yg notabene kdg tdk 100 persen mulus, msh byk jalan berlubang or kerikil. Klo kata sy utk penggunaan perkotaan dgn jalan mulus, monokok lbh enak tp klo ud jalur semi luar kota, ladder lbh enak. Tp plg sipp yach yg "hibrid" like GV.
@om Badak, ente anak kediri kan, klo trayeknya luar kota, mending evie deh, secara biasa pake pather yg disel n vibrate, bw bensin aneh lho rasanya(bakal kangen sensasi suara n getaran yg mendesir jiwa). Klo Gv 2.4 ane g rekomen krn rare item, klo 2.0, dalkot OK, luar kota "giring" bawaannya. Disel Evie, Bensin T30 (g suka model t31, imo ini prod gagal nisan dr segi desain), Captiva 2.4(ud 200an neh d iklan jitu). All new Crv msh mahal.
ane sih mikir kenyamanan untuk jalan jelek.. kalo jalan mulus dan mengayun dan kencang, lain cerita lagi.. nah secara badak ini badannya besar dan berat, jadi gak mungkin bawa mobilnya kenceng...
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Emang dikira gua ini sapi apa besar & berat :mky_06:
Gua tinggi kurus Pat..

Jalannya "giring" tuh maxudnya gmn bro Xous?
Knapa yah GV 2.4 koq jd rare item?
Captiva bensin gak suka.
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udah om badak , bungkus T31 2.0 aja deh . Atau CRV 2.0 :) . Kl mau lbh long life pilih T31 aja . CRV abis gini model outdated juga walaupun masih cantik .

Kl bth tangguh gak ada pilihan selain Evie dah .
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BADAK wrote:Emang dikira gua ini sapi apa besar & berat :mky_06:
Gua tinggi kurus Pat..

Jalannya "giring" tuh maxudnya gmn bro Xous?
Knapa yah GV 2.4 koq jd rare item?
Captiva bensin gak suka.
lha? kan badak.... :big_weee:
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campoeran wrote:udah om badak , bungkus T31 2.0 aja deh . Atau CRV 2.0 :) . Kl mau lbh long life pilih T31 aja . CRV abis gini model outdated juga walaupun masih cantik .

Kl bth tangguh gak ada pilihan selain Evie dah .
susah om.... satwa liar satu ini demennya yang diesel, macho, tangguh dan kuat...
kalo dia pake crv atau t31, nanti nicknya ganti jadi monkey... cepat, lincah... :ngacir:
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Ya bagi ane sama aja GV tipikalnya ama CRV dan T31 , walaupun dpt cc lbh gede dan taun lbh muda tp somehow wa ttp aja milih crv atao t31 dah .

Kl doyannya yg badak2 dan disel ya ga usah nanya lagi lah , evie :)
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Pengalaman ane everest dan konconya (ranger) paling gampang bunyi pintu-pintunya, baru dirental 6 bulan padahal dari baru rata-rata udah berdecit2x pintunya, trus handle pintunya ringkih gak tahu apa mmg orang2x ditempat ane kasar atau gak, yang jelas ranger dan everest paling sering rusak handle pintunya gak bisa dibuka karena ada parts pintu yg didalem gampang patah, jika dibanding PS maka PS belum ada keluhan seperti itu.
Keluhan yang paling sering pada everest dan ranger adalah kait kap mesin juga gampang patah mungkin 50% mobil ford ditempat ane kerja mengalamin hal ini.
tapi yah itu perjalanan di jalan gravel semi off road lokasi perminyakan ONshore, kadang-kadang kalo musim hujan ada lumpurnya juga :),tapi kalo dibanding dengan mitshu, nissan, dan toyot maka ford yg paling banyak keluhan.

Kalo Grand vitara ane belum ada pengalaman :).
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setelah dipikir2 ane sekarang pilihan nomor 1 t31 2000cc manual
suspensi empuk cocok utk jalanan indo yg ga mulus, tenaga cuma pernah coba yg 2500cc, tp dengernya 2000manual responsif ga kaya 2000cc matic yg lemot.
mobilnya tergolong reliable, 2 saudara udah piara 3tahun lebih ga pernah ngalamin penyakit aneh2
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Setelah searching2 saya perlu koreksi, karena ternyata GV 2.4 seken bener2 sulit ditemuin. Kalopun ada, itupun matic dan harga masih dikisaran 250jt :shrug:
Jadi pilihannya tinggal T31 2000cc MT, GV 2.0 MT, n CRV 2.0 MT.
Evie saya coret dr list karena kyknya kurang cocok buat perjalanan yg hanya sekali2 di jalan2 mulus.
Selain itu evie bodynya bongsor, sedangkan keperluan saya lebih banyak disetirin sendiri.
Thanx atas input2 dr master2 disini :frm_salut:

Waktu searching2 mobil begini baru sadar, mobil SUV & MPV diesel taon muda, di range 200-250jt ternyata hanya dihuni beberapa tipe saja. Pantesan panther masih bisa survive, pantesan innova jg berkeliaran dimana2, krn pemain dirange ini jg gak banyak :shrug:
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dak,. justru karna dibawa sendiri meningan yg ukurannya gede sekalian,. biar gak kagok gitu,.
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@Om badak, sy blg langka krn liat d jalan 2.0 aj, trus giring d maksud kudu ngurut gas agak underpower + ud g tali gas. Yakin coret evie neh bro? ente kan biasa bawa mbl lega n tinggi spt panther, nti kaget lho, ane aj bw inova trus ganti jazz aneh rasanya. Klo opsi d atas, kyke gv plg byk sekennya, sdgkan all new crv 2.0 inget saya msh 250an, klo si t31 kok rasanya rare item klo liat kolom jawa pos.
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Yakin coret deh bro, bayangin kl pas lewat gang2 kcl pake evie bisa pusing tuh. Body nya bongsor pst sulit lwt jln2 kcl. Lagian walopun bermesin diesel kbr nya evie termasuk boros. Iya, T31 jg blm msk kl 200jt.
Saya justru pgn beralih bensin krn bosen pake diesel. Kmrn pake GL & jazz beberapa hari koq fun jg. hehehe.
Kalo pgn diesel benernya idealnya pake captiva vcdi, tp sekennya msh tinggi.
Kalo gnt bensin opsi terakhir tinggal T30, crv 2.0 & GV 2.0.
Gv plg dikit sekennya bro, jauh lbh banyak crv ma xtrail.
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Kerek dikit budgetnya Om,.. trus ambil T31.. :frm_tumbleft:
Mbl idaman saya jg nih..
Lagi nginjek rem..
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iya kerek ke t31 aja, penyempurnaan t30 soalnya
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T30,GV2.0,Crv gen2 2.0, hmm entah knp saya milih t30 walau 2.5 liter tp kan utk pemakaian dalkot kediri gpp lah, sensasi tenaga d jalur luar kota nya spt nya asyik tuh, walau blm perna TD luar kota hanya dalkot sby daerah mayjen sungkono n raya darmo. Blm lg tampang manchonya n kenyamanan suspensinya(suhu t30 yg mau bakar2 monggo). Klo mau value for money yah GV 2.0 taun 08 sktr 170an MT tp bantingan stiff n part g murah2 amat coz asli japan konon. wkwk. Sekian newbie berbicara
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Emg T30 parts nya lbh murah dr sujuki?
200jt kek nya dpt T30 tipe st.
GV 08 170 kek nya cmn dpt yg tipe JX bro. Kl Jlx kisaran 180-190.
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