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mantap..
ane juga mantau aja om..sambil nabung2 dulu nih

Btw, ada varian baru nih..tambah ngiler aje ane...hehehe

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Xandox wrote:
andy1800 wrote::mky_07:
bagaimana kalau ternyata B tu --> Berglendotan ?
ane dpt info nih...

B--> Break (dikunci di gigi 3)

info lengkapnya di mari:
http://id.carmall.com/id/otomotif/info_ ... at-2437/3/

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Btw, yg sdh beli..discount brp nih di Jkt..
Tipe Exceed..

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Xandox wrote:mantap..
ane juga mantau aja om..sambil nabung2 dulu nih

Btw, ada varian baru nih..tambah ngiler aje ane...hehehe

Varian Sport Mirage Siap Meluncur!
http://otomotif.kompas.com/read/2013/02 ... p.Meluncur.
ini mah kemaren di EPicentrum. hehe. Itu cuma ditambahin moulding di moncong. sama kasi body kit. Tapi body kit nya boleh lah, terutama peleknya pas sizenya
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agya kapan keluar om??
ane malah penasaran agya nya
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Xandox wrote:
andy1800 wrote::mky_07:
bagaimana kalau ternyata B tu --> Berglendotan ?
ane dpt info nih...

B--> Break (dikunci di gigi 3)



Thx
Ooo break ternyata..hihi :e-think: :mky_01:
Berarti mirip spt mbl hybrid toyota ya menggunakan istilah B juga.
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Xandox wrote:
andy1800 wrote::mky_07:
bagaimana kalau ternyata B tu --> Berglendotan ?
ane dpt info nih...

B--> Break (dikunci di gigi 3)

info lengkapnya di mari:
http://id.carmall.com/id/otomotif/info_ ... at-2437/3/

Forum Mirage Kaskuser (Racun Mode).. :frm_tumbright:
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IMEC-KASKUS (Indonesia Mirage Club @Kaskus)
http://www.kaskus.co.id/post/50efd08c7d1243aa1c000014


Btw, yg sdh beli..discount brp nih di Jkt..
Tipe Exceed..

Thx
ic thanks infonya :thanks:

B dr kata Brake...lengkapnya, mitsu menamakannya sbg "engine brake mode", ketika jalan menurun... :e-think: ok, masuk akal aja.
dibilangnya, dikunci di gigi 3... sebenernya CVT mana ada gigi nya sih...tp bs dimaklumi, itu sekedar istilah utk memudahkan saja...diumpamakan dia tu spt AT 4 speed, maka klo ditaruh di B tu maka tautan ke "4th gear" nya di-brake..diputus... jd ditahan max di gigi 3 saja.... ok, masuk akal deh.
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peace_cank wrote:
andy1800 wrote:jd klo exceed jatohnya 160 jt....berarti masih selisih skitar 10 jt an dg jkt ya?
ayo bro....tekan lagi, sampai selisihnya cm 5-6 jt deh dg jkt.
emang di jkt exceed brp gan, 165 diskon 20jt ye ??


btw td pas mau balek malah ketemu kepala cabang mitsu yg ternyata kenalan gw,
ngomong2 agak lama trus gw kasi tau mau beli mirage, eh dia malah bilang besok dia coba bantu nego buat diskon karyawan :e-pray:
moga aje disetujuin katanye :upss:
jkt pricelist OTR 165jt - cashback 11jt/12jt - gadget yg bisa diuangkan senilai 4jt/5jt ...jatohnya skitar 150jt lah ya.

nah bagus tu kacabnya ternyata udah temen.
ok gan moga diskonnya mantap. good luck
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andy1800 wrote::mky_07:
bagaimana kalau ternyata B tu --> Berglendotan ?
B itu buat engine brake om
Bisa dipake kapan aja asal butuh
Lumayan berasa waktu turunan
Kalau lagi hi-speed & pengen ngurangi speed tapi ga nginjek rem lumayan ngebantu juga

Di mirage cvtnya ada low & hi range (rationya)
B itu low range aja
Kalau D itu low & hi range nyambung
Makanya di rpm rendah galak (low range)
Di hi speed bisa rpmnya rendah (hi range)
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RVR wrote:
B itu buat engine brake om
Bisa dipake kapan aja asal butuh
Lumayan berasa waktu turunan
Kalau lagi hi-speed & pengen ngurangi speed tapi ga nginjek rem lumayan ngebantu juga

Di mirage cvtnya ada low & hi range (rationya)
B itu low range aja
Kalau D itu low & hi range nyambung
Makanya di rpm rendah galak (low range)
Di hi speed bisa rpmnya rendah (hi range)
ini maksudnya ratio pulley CVTnya bro??
wah baru tau ane ternyata CVT cara engine brakenya gini :off_good:
berarti sama kyk fitur "Hold" di transmisi automatic konvesional ya bro. transmisi ngunci di gigi 3 untuk efek engine brake CMIIW
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Jambangan wrote:
RVR wrote:
B itu buat engine brake om
Bisa dipake kapan aja asal butuh
Lumayan berasa waktu turunan
Kalau lagi hi-speed & pengen ngurangi speed tapi ga nginjek rem lumayan ngebantu juga

Di mirage cvtnya ada low & hi range (rationya)
B itu low range aja
Kalau D itu low & hi range nyambung
Makanya di rpm rendah galak (low range)
Di hi speed bisa rpmnya rendah (hi range)
ini maksudnya ratio pulley CVTnya bro??
wah baru tau ane ternyata CVT cara engine brakenya gini :off_good:
berarti sama kyk fitur "Hold" di transmisi automatic konvesional ya bro. transmisi ngunci di gigi 3 untuk efek engine brake CMIIW
CVT mirage emang dirancang khusus
Ada subgear yg memungkinkan ratio totalnya jadi wide ratio
Nih press releasenya:
The Mirage's engine is mated to the newest version of the INVECS-III CVT wide-ratio transmission which now uses a sub-geartrain to deliver a better acceleration and fuel economy. Extending the engine speed range over which the lockup clutch engages and optimization of transmission control has contributed to a further reduction in fuel consumption without affecting acceleration performance.
Ini link-nya
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/publis ... l0850.html
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RVR wrote:
Jambangan wrote:
RVR wrote:
B itu buat engine brake om
Bisa dipake kapan aja asal butuh
Lumayan berasa waktu turunan
Kalau lagi hi-speed & pengen ngurangi speed tapi ga nginjek rem lumayan ngebantu juga

Di mirage cvtnya ada low & hi range (rationya)
B itu low range aja
Kalau D itu low & hi range nyambung
Makanya di rpm rendah galak (low range)
Di hi speed bisa rpmnya rendah (hi range)
ini maksudnya ratio pulley CVTnya bro??
wah baru tau ane ternyata CVT cara engine brakenya gini :off_good:
berarti sama kyk fitur "Hold" di transmisi automatic konvesional ya bro. transmisi ngunci di gigi 3 untuk efek engine brake CMIIW
CVT mirage emang dirancang khusus
Ada subgear yg memungkinkan ratio totalnya jadi wide ratio
Nih press releasenya:
The Mirage's engine is mated to the newest version of the INVECS-III CVT wide-ratio transmission which now uses a sub-geartrain to deliver a better acceleration and fuel economy. Extending the engine speed range over which the lockup clutch engages and optimization of transmission control has contributed to a further reduction in fuel consumption without affecting acceleration performance.
Ini link-nya
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/publis ... l0850.html
oke thx infonya bro RVR :thanks:
coba ane googling lagi deh msh agak ga ngerti cara kerjanya :mky_01:
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RVR wrote:
andy1800 wrote::mky_07:
bagaimana kalau ternyata B tu --> Berglendotan ?
Di mirage cvtnya ada low & hi range (rationya)
B itu low range aja
Kalau D itu low & hi range nyambung
Makanya di rpm rendah galak (low range)
Di hi speed bisa rpmnya rendah (hi range)
this..penjelasan baik, yg menjadikannya simply masuk akal
plus info lanjutan n link tsb,...makin sip deh bro.

mantap mmg miraz ini :off_good_job: :thanks:


itu jd masuk akal knp dia pakainya bukan L tp B
soalnya klo L itu dah identik dg konvenisonal a/t yg skedar ngelock doang, tp tanpa "remapping" TCU supya menjadi low range.
sdgkan krn di mirad ini klo taruh di B tu artinya dia sekaligus jg me "remap" si TCU, semacam menstrech range nya yg pendek itu jd sepanjang fullrange... , maka digunakanlah huruf lain selain L, yaitu B.
masuk akal

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bro sekalian, ada info ngga STNK nya untuk type GLS berapa ya ? ada yg kena pajak progresif ngga utk mobil kedua ? naik berapa STNK nya ? tls
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om_arsu wrote:bro sekalian, ada info ngga STNK nya untuk type GLS berapa ya ? ada yg kena pajak progresif ngga utk mobil kedua ? naik berapa STNK nya ? tls
blm ada yg ulang taun. jd ya blm ada yg pernah bayar pajaknya. artinya gak akan ada info yg pasti.

ane perkirakan aja, total PKB skitar 1.8 jt + swdklj.. klo progresif sbg mobil kedua, ya jd sekira 2.3jt + swdklj
dg kmgkin NJOP nya 115 jtan.

klo ada yg punya gls, plz cek faktur pkb, itu yg tercantum sbg bbn I sekira 17 skian jt kah ya?
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andy1800 wrote:
om_arsu wrote:bro sekalian, ada info ngga STNK nya untuk type GLS berapa ya ? ada yg kena pajak progresif ngga utk mobil kedua ? naik berapa STNK nya ? tls
blm ada yg ulang taun. jd ya blm ada yg pernah bayar pajaknya. artinya gak akan ada info yg pasti.

ane perkirakan aja, total PKB skitar 1.8 jt + swdklj.. klo progresif sbg mobil kedua, ya jd sekira 2.3jt + swdklj
dg kmgkin NJOP nya 115 jtan.

klo ada yg punya gls, plz cek faktur pkb, itu yg tercantum sbg bbn I sekira 17 skian jt kah ya?

Ane pake exceed
-bbn 12.5jt
-pkb 1.875jt
Total 14an lebih, ga sampe 15jt
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ic
Brarti perkiraan ane di bbn I meleset. tepatnya slh itung, hrsnya 10%. cm 11.5 jt... pkb nya dah bener (sbnernya 1.725..buletin 1.8)

Jd nampaknya njkb exceed 125 jt, n gls mmg 115 jt.
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RVR wrote:
andy1800 wrote:
om_arsu wrote:bro sekalian, ada info ngga STNK nya untuk type GLS berapa ya ? ada yg kena pajak progresif ngga utk mobil kedua ? naik berapa STNK nya ? tls
blm ada yg ulang taun. jd ya blm ada yg pernah bayar pajaknya. artinya gak akan ada info yg pasti.

ane perkirakan aja, total PKB skitar 1.8 jt + swdklj.. klo progresif sbg mobil kedua, ya jd sekira 2.3jt + swdklj
dg kmgkin NJOP nya 115 jtan.

klo ada yg punya gls, plz cek faktur pkb, itu yg tercantum sbg bbn I sekira 17 skian jt kah ya?

Ane pake exceed
-bbn 12.5jt
-pkb 1.875jt
Total 14an lebih, ga sampe 15jt
ok bros, thanks utk infonya.. intinya pajak progresif gak jadi dobel ya.. / diatas 1jt naiknya..
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Oo itu maksudnya..
Naiknya 0.5% per step
Jd klo mobil 200jt *) ya naiknya sampai 1jt

*) berlaku kelipatan. wkwkwk jd jgn buang struk anda. Hnya berlaku dlm satu struk wkwkwkk, apa seeh
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jd inget klu mobil blum ada stnknya.... hohoho....
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y_anjasrana wrote:jd inget klu mobil blum ada stnknya.... hohoho....
Lho kok?
Jadi selama ini?
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RVR wrote:
y_anjasrana wrote:jd inget klu mobil blum ada stnknya.... hohoho....
Lho kok?
Jadi selama ini?
kata sales bisa pake STNK sementara, cuman biayanya 1jt.. bener ? Sayang amat 1jt cuma sebulan...
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bukan stnk sementara, tp surat jalan dr polda. masa berlaku 1 bulan. biaya ditanggung dealer. makin lama pengurusannya ya mereka wajib buatin lg. ga tau biaya persisnya brp. yg jelas surat dpt bersama2 plat nomer sementara.
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y_anjasrana wrote:bukan stnk sementara, tp surat jalan dr polda. masa berlaku 1 bulan. biaya ditanggung dealer. makin lama pengurusannya ya mereka wajib buatin lg. ga tau biaya persisnya brp. yg jelas surat dpt bersama2 plat nomer sementara.
Iya minta dealer tanggung aja sampe plat no keluar, jangan mau disuruh bayar 1 juta buat sebulan
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htannis wrote:
y_anjasrana wrote:bukan stnk sementara, tp surat jalan dr polda. masa berlaku 1 bulan. biaya ditanggung dealer. makin lama pengurusannya ya mereka wajib buatin lg. ga tau biaya persisnya brp. yg jelas surat dpt bersama2 plat nomer sementara.
Iya minta dealer tanggung aja sampe plat no keluar, jangan mau disuruh bayar 1 juta buat sebulan
hmm.. udah deal gak enak jg mau nego lagi.. kalao ngga bayar katanya mobil akan di deliver ke rumah pake plat putih, abis itu platnya dicopot.. ngendon dong sebulan di garasi ??? Gimana macam Ertiga, katanya masih buatan Indihe, CBU juga donk.. ?