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Pemenang Car Category di Seraya Motor Award 2013
1 Citycar
2 Small Hatchback
3 Compact Hatchback
4 Medium Hatchback
5 Small Sedan
6 Medium Sedan
7 Big Sedan
8 Low MPV
9 Compact MPV
10 Medium MPV
11 High MPV
12 Big MPV
13 Compact SUV
14 Medium SUV
15 Big SUV
16 Compact Luxury SUV
17 Medium Luxury SUV
18 Big Luxury SUV
19 Double Cabin
20 Small Luxury Sedan
21 Medium Luxury Sedan
22 Big Luxury Sedan
23 Luxury MPV
24 Hybrid
25 Sportscar
26 Supercar
27 Coupe and Cabriolet

monggo di tulis ulang para pemenangnya.

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mantap Nissan. :big_exellent: Hampir semua kategori MPV disabet oleh Nissan
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makin taun makin aneh penilaian AB award.... ga relevan dengan kenyataan...

pembagian kelasnya terkesan maksa dan keliatan banget "bagi-bagi kue"...

"small hatchback" dan "compact hatchback" ? small dan compact kan merujuk ke 1 definisi yg sama....

yg paling ga jelas adalah pembagian "small hatchback", "compact hatchback", dan "citycar"..... smart fortwo jelas menang lah, orang ga ada pesaingnya...

ML Class dan RX bukannya ada di kelas yg sama?

medium MPV, high MPV, big MPV? sangat ga jelas pembagiannya :off_no:
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Autobild?

Yg menang tergantung sogokan...

Pernah gw baca review CRV RM di AB, mrk blg pengendaraannya enak (enak gundulmu, stir aja ga ad feedback) keliatan kali ga bs nyetir...
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Suruh setir Brio Sotoy dah... EPS nya lebih hambar lagi... :big_slap:





Bijimane kalo SM bikin award beginian...?

Dan penghargaan prestisius SCoTY dan SCroTy...

Seraya Car of The Year dan Seraya Crap of The Year? :e-think:
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Boleh jg tuh om dhar...

Btw, kategorinya koq bikin pusing ya? Compact hatchback? Emang hatchback semuanya ga compact?

Kalo high mpv, itu mah mpv yg gcnya tinggi kan? Ya jelas Innova...
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madcat015 wrote:Suruh setir Brio Sotoy dah... EPS nya lebih hambar lagi... :big_slap:





Bijimane kalo SM bikin award beginian...?

Dan penghargaan prestisius SCoTY dan SCroTy...

Seraya Car of The Year dan Seraya Crap of The Year? :e-think:
bikin deh om.... :upss:

Seraya Cat of The Year :upss:
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Nah, bijimane kalo dipersempit begini:

1. Oleh kapasitas mesin?
2. Oleh price positioning? *ini yg paling masuk akal*
3. Oleh ukuran dan kapasitas kabin? *bakal tubrukan, misal Captiva vs CRV... satunya 7 seater satunya 5 seater*
4. Oleh ukuran/dimensi luar kendaraan? *juga repot, Alphard sama M8 nyaris sama dimensi dan WB nya, tapi harganya jauhhhh...*

Soalnya, sebelum menentukan nominee, harus jelas kelas2nya... jangan kayak majalah itu.

High MPV???? Ane baru dengar.

Big MPV oke lah, semua uda tau...
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madcat015 wrote:Nah, bijimane kalo dipersempit begini:

1. Oleh kapasitas mesin?
2. Oleh price positioning? *ini yg paling masuk akal*
3. Oleh ukuran dan kapasitas kabin? *bakal tubrukan, misal Captiva vs CRV... satunya 7 seater satunya 5 seater*
4. Oleh ukuran/dimensi luar kendaraan? *juga repot, Alphard sama M8 nyaris sama dimensi dan WB nya, tapi harganya jauhhhh...*

Soalnya, sebelum menentukan nominee, harus jelas kelas2nya... jangan kayak majalah itu.

High MPV???? Ane baru dengar.

Big MPV oke lah, semua uda tau...
paling adil sih liat price positioning dan engine capacity....

kalo SUV 7seats atau MPV 7seats dibagi 2 kategori aja : ladder frame / monocoque... soalnya dari segi penggunaan jelas beda :upss:

SUV 7seats ladder : PS, fortie, dll
SUV 7seats mono : captiva, santi, sorento...

MPV 7seats ladder : innova, panther...
MPV 7seats mono : biante, nav1, serena, dst :upss:

kalo dimensi jelas kurang adil.... march dimensinya deket2 ama yaris...
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Fair2an aja kita pasti tau yg mana yg sekelas dan yg mana yg gak sekelas benernya ya :) .
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Daridulu, ane kurang sreg ama EPS power steering. Bikin dudul feeling kita ke jalan.
Setir kayak ga napak, dan ngga akurat putarannya.

beda ama cairan..ups... hydraulic. Ane masih berasa kontak ban ke jalan, dan putarannya juga sesuai ekspektasi putaran di setir..

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madcat015 wrote:Nah, bijimane kalo dipersempit begini:

1. Oleh kapasitas mesin?
2. Oleh price positioning? *ini yg paling masuk akal*
3. Oleh ukuran dan kapasitas kabin? *bakal tubrukan, misal Captiva vs CRV... satunya 7 seater satunya 5 seater*
4. Oleh ukuran/dimensi luar kendaraan? *juga repot, Alphard sama M8 nyaris sama dimensi dan WB nya, tapi harganya jauhhhh...*

Soalnya, sebelum menentukan nominee, harus jelas kelas2nya... jangan kayak majalah itu.

High MPV???? Ane baru dengar.

Big MPV oke lah, semua uda tau...
Kelas citycar yg paling bingung...

Mirage, Brio dkk semua pd nyebut citycar...

Lah Smart ForTwo disebut apaan donk?

Mau dimasukkan ke small hatchback ya yg dilawan ga seimbang, e.g : Jazz, Yasir dkk...

Trus, masalah Terios, dimasukkan ke kelas apa? Small SUV ato bijimane?
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kalo baca di websitenya sih high mpv buat akomodir 3 roti tawar, jadi kandidatnya c26, nav1 dan biante.
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Sip2...

Berarti begini:

City car: nyata mobil kecil, kayak Smart... dan segerombolan LCGC.

Hatchback: bijimane kalo dibagi jadi Compact HB (Swift, Jazz, dll) dan Real(ly expensive) HB (VW Golf, Polo, BMW 1 serie, dst)

Sedan: standar ya, Compact (kecebong berbuntut), Small (Civic, Altis, dst), Medium (Kemri, Acrot, dst), abis itu naik ke Small Lux (C class, serie 3, dst), Medium Lux (E class, A6, dst), Big Lux (S class, 7, dst).

Trus ada sub nya:
Fastback (CLS, 6-GranCoupe, Panamera, dst)

MPV: Compact (Evalia, AvXen, GL, Iprit, dst), Medium (Ipah, Ispan, APV, Exora.. errr... apalagi ya?), Medium PSD (trio roti tawar), Big (Hyuna H1, Commuter/Hi-Ace).

Sub nya:
Small Lux (B series, Touran)
Med Lux (Odyss, M8)
Big Lux (AlphVie, Legrand, Elyss, R Class)

SUV:
Ladder frame (Fortie, PJS, Evie)
Monocoque:
- Compact/Cross: Juki, SX-4, Teroris Rusuh, dst
- Medium: yg paling rame
- Large: Santi, Sorento, dst

Sub:
- Compact Lux: Countryman, X1, dst
- Medium: RX, ML, X3, dst
- Large: Cayenne, X5, GL, LX
- 5-door Crossover: X6, Macan, entahlah apa lagi

Sportcar: ini yg paling sulit, kayaknya harus dibagi convertible vs roadster, dan mungkin kapasitas silinder juga harga. Ga lucu FT/BRZ vs SL65 AMG.

Supercar: para banteng, para kuda, top of the line GT Porsche, MP4, dst dst...

Hybrid: apapun yg kayak sentolop. Prius, Kemri, CRZ, all in.

Dan tentu saja SCoTY dan SCroTY...

Bijimane? Ane butuh bantuan dari rekan2 sekalian... :ungg:
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madcat015 wrote:Sip2...

Berarti begini:

City car: nyata mobil kecil, kayak Smart... dan segerombolan LCGC.

Hatchback: bijimane kalo dibagi jadi Compact HB (Swift, Jazz, dll) dan Real(ly expensive) HB (VW Golf, Polo, BMW 1 serie, dst)

Sedan: standar ya, Compact (kecebong berbuntut), Small (Civic, Altis, dst), Medium (Kemri, Acrot, dst), abis itu naik ke Small Lux (C class, serie 3, dst), Medium Lux (E class, A6, dst), Big Lux (S class, 7, dst).

Trus ada sub nya:
Fastback (CLS, 6-GranCoupe, Panamera, dst)

MPV: Compact (Evalia, AvXen, GL, Iprit, dst), Medium (Ipah, Ispan, APV, Exora.. errr... apalagi ya?), Medium PSD (trio roti tawar), Big (Hyuna H1, Commuter/Hi-Ace).

Sub nya:
Small Lux (B series, Touran)
Med Lux (Odyss, M8)
Big Lux (AlphVie, Legrand, Elyss, R Class)

SUV:
Ladder frame (Fortie, PJS, Evie)
Monocoque:
- Compact/Cross: Juki, SX-4, Teroris Rusuh, dst
- Medium: yg paling rame
- Large: Santi, Sorento, dst

Sub:
- Compact Lux: Countryman, X1, dst
- Medium: RX, ML, X3, dst
- Large: Cayenne, X5, GL, LX
- 5-door Crossover: X6, Macan, entahlah apa lagi

Sportcar: ini yg paling sulit, kayaknya harus dibagi convertible vs roadster, dan mungkin kapasitas silinder juga harga. Ga lucu FT/BRZ vs SL65 AMG.

Supercar: para banteng, para kuda, top of the line GT Porsche, MP4, dst dst...

Hybrid: apapun yg kayak sentolop. Prius, Kemri, CRZ, all in.

Dan tentu saja SCoTY dan SCroTY...

Bijimane? Ane butuh bantuan dari rekan2 sekalian... :ungg:
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madcat015 wrote:Sip2...

Berarti begini:

City car: nyata mobil kecil, kayak Smart... dan segerombolan LCGC.

Hatchback: bijimane kalo dibagi jadi Compact HB (Swift, Jazz, dll) dan Real(ly expensive) HB (VW Golf, Polo, BMW 1 serie, dst)

Sedan: standar ya, Compact (kecebong berbuntut), Small (Civic, Altis, dst), Medium (Kemri, Acrot, dst), abis itu naik ke Small Lux (C class, serie 3, dst), Medium Lux (E class, A6, dst), Big Lux (S class, 7, dst).

Trus ada sub nya:
Fastback (CLS, 6-GranCoupe, Panamera, dst)

MPV: Compact (Evalia, AvXen, GL, Iprit, dst), Medium (Ipah, Ispan, APV, Exora.. errr... apalagi ya?), Medium PSD (trio roti tawar), Big (Hyuna H1, Commuter/Hi-Ace).

Sub nya:
Small Lux (B series, Touran)
Med Lux (Odyss, M8)
Big Lux (AlphVie, Legrand, Elyss, R Class)

SUV:
Ladder frame (Fortie, PJS, Evie)
Monocoque:
- Compact/Cross: Juki, SX-4, Teroris Rusuh, dst
- Medium: yg paling rame
- Large: Santi, Sorento, dst

Sub:
- Compact Lux: Countryman, X1, dst
- Medium: RX, ML, X3, dst
- Large: Cayenne, X5, GL, LX
- 5-door Crossover: X6, Macan, entahlah apa lagi

Sportcar: ini yg paling sulit, kayaknya harus dibagi convertible vs roadster, dan mungkin kapasitas silinder juga harga. Ga lucu FT/BRZ vs SL65 AMG.

Supercar: para banteng, para kuda, top of the line GT Porsche, MP4, dst dst...

Hybrid: apapun yg kayak sentolop. Prius, Kemri, CRZ, all in.

Dan tentu saja SCoTY dan SCroTY...

Bijimane? Ane butuh bantuan dari rekan2 sekalian... :ungg:
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Soal sportscar dibagi berdasar silinder aja...

Kek 4 cyl sportscar : GT86, BRZ, CRZ, E250 coupe / cabrio, SLK class, Boxster
6 cyl sportscar : E 300 coupe, 911 Carrera dkk
V8 sportscar : SL65, SLK63, Mustang, Camaro SS

Bijimane?

Trus tambah lg kategori Sport Sedan, pemainnya : Evo X, Subby Impreza STI, dkk...
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modus....hehehheheh....supaya ngiklanininnya banyak ke Ab nih....:)....kabar juki gimana tuh sebagai the best car of the year....:0
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ricz wrote:Soal sportscar dibagi berdasar silinder aja...

Kek 4 cyl sportscar : GT86, BRZ, CRZ, E250 coupe / cabrio, SLK class, Boxster
6 cyl sportscar : E 300 coupe, 911 Carrera dkk
V8 sportscar : SL65, SLK63, Mustang, Camaro SS

Bijimane?

Trus tambah lg kategori Sport Sedan, pemainnya : Evo X, Subby Impreza STI, dkk...
Hmmm ide bagus bro ricz... :mrgreen:

Berhubung ada sport sedan, dipisah aja...
4 silinder: EvoX, Subby
From Hell: M3, M5, C63, E63, S63, S65, RS6, RS8, Lexus IS-F, dst dst...

O iya, Teroris Rusuh bijimane ya, rasanya ane salah masukin itu boil ke Crossover... :big_slap:
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ini pesenan bukan?...ke iklan juga...:)...
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ane setuju sama moddhar.
setelah terpilihmenjadi momod, tugas pertama adalah membuat trit SM car of the year

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Pemenang Car Category di Seraya Motor Award 2013
1 Citycar Mirage
2 Small Hatchback Etios
3 Compact Hatchback Yaris
4 Medium Hatchback N/A
5 Small Sedan Vios
6 Medium Sedan Corolla
7 Big Sedan Camry
8 Low MPV Avanza
9 Compact MPV Kijang
10 Medium MPV NAV1
11 High MPV Alphard
12 Big MPV Hi Ace
13 Compact SUV Rush
14 Medium SUV Fortuner
15 Big SUV Land Cruiser
16 Compact Luxury SUV
17 Medium Luxury SUV
18 Big Luxury SUV
19 Double Cabin Hi Lux
20 Small Luxury Sedan
21 Medium Luxury Sedan
22 Big Luxury Sedan
23 Luxury MPV
24 Hybrid Camry Hybrid
25 Sportscar F86
26 Supercar
27 Coupe and Cabriolet

Dilarang Protes :big_biglaugh:

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artoodetoo wrote:Pemenang Car Category di Seraya Motor Award 2013
1 Citycar Mirage
2 Small Hatchback Etios
3 Compact Hatchback Yaris
4 Medium Hatchback N/A
5 Small Sedan Vios
6 Medium Sedan Corolla
7 Big Sedan Camry
8 Low MPV Avanza
9 Compact MPV Kijang
10 Medium MPV NAV1
11 High MPV Alphard
12 Big MPV Hi Ace
13 Compact SUV Rush
14 Medium SUV Fortuner
15 Big SUV Land Cruiser
16 Compact Luxury SUV
17 Medium Luxury SUV
18 Big Luxury SUV
19 Double Cabin Hi Lux
20 Small Luxury Sedan
21 Medium Luxury Sedan
22 Big Luxury Sedan
23 Luxury MPV
24 Hybrid Camry Hybrid
25 Sportscar F86
26 Supercar
27 Coupe and Cabriolet

Dilarang Protes :big_biglaugh:

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madcat015 wrote:Sip2...

Berarti begini:

City car: nyata mobil kecil, kayak Smart... dan segerombolan LCGC.

Hatchback: bijimane kalo dibagi jadi Compact HB (Swift, Jazz, dll) dan Real(ly expensive) HB (VW Golf, Polo, BMW 1 serie, dst)

Sedan: standar ya, Compact (kecebong berbuntut), Small (Civic, Altis, dst), Medium (Kemri, Acrot, dst), abis itu naik ke Small Lux (C class, serie 3, dst), Medium Lux (E class, A6, dst), Big Lux (S class, 7, dst).

Trus ada sub nya:
Fastback (CLS, 6-GranCoupe, Panamera, dst)

MPV: Compact (Evalia, AvXen, GL, Iprit, dst), Medium (Ipah, Ispan, APV, Exora.. errr... apalagi ya?), Medium PSD (trio roti tawar), Big (Hyuna H1, Commuter/Hi-Ace).

Sub nya:
Small Lux (B series, Touran)
Med Lux (Odyss, M8)
Big Lux (AlphVie, Legrand, Elyss, R Class)

SUV:
Ladder frame (Fortie, PJS, Evie)
Monocoque:
- Compact/Cross: Juki, SX-4, Teroris Rusuh, dst
- Medium: yg paling rame
- Large: Santi, Sorento, dst

Sub:
- Compact Lux: Countryman, X1, dst
- Medium: RX, ML, X3, dst
- Large: Cayenne, X5, GL, LX
- 5-door Crossover: X6, Macan, entahlah apa lagi

Sportcar: ini yg paling sulit, kayaknya harus dibagi convertible vs roadster, dan mungkin kapasitas silinder juga harga. Ga lucu FT/BRZ vs SL65 AMG.

Supercar: para banteng, para kuda, top of the line GT Porsche, MP4, dst dst...

Hybrid: apapun yg kayak sentolop. Prius, Kemri, CRZ, all in.

Dan tentu saja SCoTY dan SCroTY...

Bijimane? Ane butuh bantuan dari rekan2 sekalian... :ungg:
untuk citycar smart fortwo dimasukin kategori luxury aja.... bareng ama peugeot 107 :mrgreen: ga adil kalo bandingin LCGC dengan smart secara langsung

HB dibandingin compact HB dan medium HB (Golf, focus, 1series, Aclass...) polo nya masukin bareng jazz dkk
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madcat015 wrote:Melihat hasilnya, ane semakin apatis sama ni majalah. Untung uda kagak beli lagi sejak join SM... :ungg:

Big MPV Odyss???? Ini Odyss yg mana? RB5? :big_slap:

Odyss mah masuk Medium Lux MPV yg bakalan head to head vs M8... :off_no:

Big MPV itu Hyuna H-1 dan Toyota Commuter. Kategori nya aja ga beres gini gimana ngasi poin utk award nya?

Trus high MPV itu maksud nya apa? Roof height nya tinggi? GC tinggi? Atau apanya yg tinggi??? Sok2an pake bahasa Londo tapi aplikasinya ngaco... Low MPV juga, maksudnya bijimane... :off_no:

Supercar Aventador? Hohoho, coba aja... not that good itu banteng... diatas kertas spek nya ajib, tp apakah hanya kertas dan "kertas" yg berbicara?
Seandainya M8 dapat award.....