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Renault Triber. Pesaing Avanza, Ertiga cs. (dari Eropa)?

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http://www.tribunnews.com/otomotif/2019 ... en-low-mpv

https://news.okezone.com/read/2019/05/3 ... -indonesia

Kira2 sejauh mana potensinya buat bersaing dengan LMPV lain yg udah eksis?
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Kebayang bernasib sama dgn spin. Trus kayaknya design nya aneh, khas mobil murah non jepang. Ban kekecilan dibanding body, bentuk spion aneh, penempatan bagian2 di interior ga ergonomis...namanya jg murah
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Harga boleh murah sayangnya merk "R"
Semoga nasibnya ga seperti adik-nya jaman dipegang indomobil yg mur ban-nya ada 3...merk-nya lupa
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Harchi wrote: 31 May 2019, 09:43 Kebayang bernasib sama dgn spin. Trus kayaknya design nya aneh, khas mobil murah non jepang. Ban kekecilan dibanding body, bentuk spion aneh, penempatan bagian2 di interior ga ergonomis...namanya jg murah
Bentuk Eksterior'nya juga bukan selera Indo DM

Hanya bersaing dengan Confero untuk tampilan'nya

Belum lagi itu Velg Mur cuma 3, ga enak buat dilihat

Model begIni serius mau tanding d kelas LMPV saat ini?
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Winz wrote: 31 May 2019, 10:28
Harchi wrote: 31 May 2019, 09:43 Kebayang bernasib sama dgn spin. Trus kayaknya design nya aneh, khas mobil murah non jepang. Ban kekecilan dibanding body, bentuk spion aneh, penempatan bagian2 di interior ga ergonomis...namanya jg murah
Bentuk Eksterior'nya juga bukan selera Indo DM

Hanya bersaing dengan Confero untuk tampilan'nya

Belum lagi itu Velg Mur cuma 3, ga enak buat dilihat

Model begIni serius mau tanding d kelas LMPV saat ini?
bautnya 4 kok, gambar itu mah cuma renderan, ini wujud aslinya dalam kamuflase, bakal ada DRL LED, lampu projector, roofrail dan dikabarkan ada overfender ala2 SUV:

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Bentuk 'terpaksa' aneh karena nyari lega padahal panjang cuma 3.995 mm kayak datsun GO+, karena di india mobil diatas 4.000 mm pajaknya mahal. Jangan dianggap mobil eropa deh, anggap aja mobil india berlogo Renault. Mesinnya belum jelas, antara 1.0 biasa, 1.0 turbo atau 1.2, tapi gak jauh2 dari 3 itu. Transmisi mungkin AMT, jangan harap kualitas berkendara ala Eropa.

Berikut interiornya, bocorannya HU ada apple carplay/android auto, airbag 4 termasuk di jok. Bangku baris ketiga bisa dilepas.
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Kalo masuk Indonesia gak akan gede sih volume penjualannya, jangan harap bisa goyang LMPV yang sudah ada, tapi pasti bakal tetap jadi tulang punggung Renault Indonesia, secara Indonesia cinta MPV dan Triber sendiri kan emang murah.
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Astargea wrote: 31 May 2019, 11:17
Winz wrote: 31 May 2019, 10:28
Harchi wrote: 31 May 2019, 09:43 Kebayang bernasib sama dgn spin. Trus kayaknya design nya aneh, khas mobil murah non jepang. Ban kekecilan dibanding body, bentuk spion aneh, penempatan bagian2 di interior ga ergonomis...namanya jg murah
Bentuk Eksterior'nya juga bukan selera Indo DM

Hanya bersaing dengan Confero untuk tampilan'nya

Belum lagi itu Velg Mur cuma 3, ga enak buat dilihat

Model begIni serius mau tanding d kelas LMPV saat ini?
bautnya 4 kok, gambar itu mah cuma renderan, ini wujud aslinya dalam kamuflase:

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Image

Image

Image

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Bentuk 'terpaksa' aneh karena nyari lega padahal panjang cuma 3.995 mm kayak datsun GO+, karena di india mobil diatas 4.000 mm pajaknya mahal. Jangan dianggap mobil eropa deh, anggap aja mobil india berlogo Renault. Mesinnya belum jelas, antara 1.0 biasa, 1.0 turbo atau 1.2, tapi gak jauh2 dari 3 itu.

Berikut interiornya:
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Ini kayanya bakal masuk kelasnya Datgo+ n Calsig, kalo lmpv kayanya terlalu maksa ukurannya
Jangan nginjek gas dalam dalam, boros, mending nyantai aja :ngacir:
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Winz wrote: 31 May 2019, 10:28 Ini kayanya bakal masuk kelasnya Datgo+ n Calsig, kalo lmpv kayanya terlalu maksa ukurannya
Kalo secara harga sih feeling saya bakal tabrakan sama LMPV, secara fitur Triber masih diatas datgo+ dan calsig, merek Eropa, kemudian CBU India dan tanpa program LCGC. Secara dimensi (panjang) memang cuma se Datgo+.
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Astargea wrote: 31 May 2019, 11:27
Winz wrote: 31 May 2019, 10:28 Ini kayanya bakal masuk kelasnya Datgo+ n Calsig, kalo lmpv kayanya terlalu maksa ukurannya
Kalo secara harga sih feeling saya bakal tabrakan sama LMPV, secara fitur Triber masih diatas datgo+ dan calsig, merek Eropa, kemudian CBU India dan tanpa program LCGC. Secara dimensi (panjang) memang cuma se Datgo+.
Nah, bentuk'nya memang Indihe gini

Apalagi kelas LMPV lagi Jor2an Fitur skrg

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Kenapa mobil2 design dr india atau china kebanyakan (atau selalu) keliatan kekecilan ban ya. Ga proporsional.

Semoga matic nya bukan amt....klo ada pilihan matic
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india market design ya... disana si mobil tampang luar aneh dikit ga terlalu masalah, di indo... :mky_01:
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pradit_d wrote: 31 May 2019, 15:35 Kenapa mobil2 design dr india atau china kebanyakan (atau selalu) keliatan kekecilan ban ya. Ga proporsional.
ah jepang juga banyak yang kekecilan roda... tidak usah disebutkan namanya, tapi karena sejuta umat jadi biasa ngeliatnya :mky_01:
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Saya cm menangkap renault ga serius garap pasar indonesia.. r&d nya aja utk orang india.. kita seakan2 cm dapet mobil "buangan" dr india..

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pradit_d wrote: 31 May 2019, 15:35 Kenapa mobil2 design dr india atau china kebanyakan (atau selalu) keliatan kekecilan ban ya. Ga proporsional.

Semoga matic nya bukan amt....klo ada pilihan matic
agak mirip Malaysia juga, karena mereka pentingkan ekonomis, larger rim = larger tyres = extra cost. smaller rim = smaller tyres = small cost. :mky_01: apalagi ban profil dibawah 60, bisa dihujat massa kali, ban yang tidak aman karena tidak safe, gampang sobek di jalanan gravel, payload rendah, bantingan jadi keras, dsb. uniknya lagi India dan Malaysia itu ga pelit beli merek ban, mereka maunya major brand tyre. entah kenapa, maunya continantal, pirelli, dunlop, goodyear, bridgestone, michelin, biarpun hanya OE grade, merek lain ga mau.
makanya di sana ban jadi kecil karena kombinasi pelek kecil + ban profil tebal. sedangkan di indo ya 16" wheels is the new 14". 18" wheels is the new 16", biarpun ban jadi mahal, bantingan cenderung lebih kaku.

itu yang saya iseng2 baca sekilas di teambhp dan lowyat. = kesimpulan saya ya, mungkin salah besar
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MPV yang panjangnya kurang dari 4 meter gak banyak, paling paling ada maruti eeco dan datsun go+, eeco masih mending bentuknya ngotak sehingga masih lumayan luas...
Bulgogi wrote: 31 May 2019, 16:52 Saya cm menangkap renault ga serius garap pasar indonesia.. r&d nya aja utk orang india.. kita seakan2 cm dapet mobil "buangan" dr india..

Lebih respect wuling ..
Namanya jg pasar indonesia, buat renault itu pasar yg kecil beda dgn india, disini sebatas distributor, belum ada pabrik juga kan.
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pradit_d wrote: 31 May 2019, 15:35 Kenapa mobil2 design dr india atau china kebanyakan (atau selalu) keliatan kekecilan ban ya. Ga proporsional.

Semoga matic nya bukan amt....klo ada pilihan matic
agak mirip Malaysia juga, karena mereka pentingkan ekonomis, larger rim = larger tyres = extra cost. smaller rim = smaller tyres = small cost. :mky_01: apalagi ban profil dibawah 60, bisa dihujat massa kali, ban yang tidak aman karena tidak safe, gampang sobek di jalanan gravel, payload rendah, bantingan jadi keras, dsb. uniknya lagi India dan Malaysia itu ga pelit beli merek ban, mereka maunya major brand tyre. entah kenapa, maunya continantal, pirelli, dunlop, goodyear, bridgestone, michelin, biarpun hanya OE grade, merek lain ga mau.
makanya di sana ban jadi kecil karena kombinasi pelek kecil + ban profil tebal. sedangkan di indo ya 16" wheels is the new 14". 18" wheels is the new 16", biarpun ban jadi mahal, bantingan cenderung lebih kaku.

itu yang saya iseng2 baca sekilas di teambhp dan lowyat. = kesimpulan saya ya, mungkin salah besar
Tapi buat mobil mobil buatan india terutama city car biasanya merek lokal, entah itu JK tyres atau Apollo, coba lihat aja mobil sijuki sini yg buatan india....

Maticnya sih AMT....tapi kalau lihat dari spyshotnya sih ada side airbag
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Suram dah,kayak gini boro boro mau lawan avanza.
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Indra97 wrote: 31 May 2019, 18:25 Tapi buat mobil mobil buatan india terutama city car biasanya merek lokal, entah itu JK tyres atau Apollo, coba lihat aja mobil sijuki sini yg buatan india....

Maticnya sih AMT....tapi kalau lihat dari spyshotnya sih ada side airbag
ah iya saya lupa soal ini, tapi biasanya diganti si, kalaupun ga ya dipake sampe habis, nanti diganti major brand. :mky_01:
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pradit_d wrote: 31 May 2019, 15:35 Kenapa mobil2 design dr india atau china kebanyakan (atau selalu) keliatan kekecilan ban ya. Ga proporsional.

Semoga matic nya bukan amt....klo ada pilihan matic
Karena mereka prefer ban yg tebal tp velg kecil, dibandingkan velg gede yg otomatis ban jadi lbh tipis. Mayoritas nya gitu. Bahkan org" forum otomotifpun jg ya pada prefer kyk gitu. Krn ban tebal means more comfort di jalan rusak di india yg kyknya 11 12 ama indo.
Itu yg sy tau sihh :mky_01:
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Bulgogi wrote: 31 May 2019, 16:52 Saya cm menangkap renault ga serius garap pasar indonesia.. r&d nya aja utk orang india.. kita seakan2 cm dapet mobil "buangan" dr india..

Lebih respect wuling ..
Gak masalah bagi mereka, toh melalui aliansi Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi tiap2 pabrikan semacam punya 'teritori' unggulan sendiri... ASEAN jagonya Mitsubishi, di Amerika Utara dan China Nissan berjaya, di Eropa Renault-Nissan sama2 kuat, di India Renault unggulan. Gak efisien kalo keroyokan.

India gabisa diabaikan, secara marketnya sangat besar dan terus berkembang (1 miliar orang lebih dan banyak yang baru bisa beli mobil), Indonesia jadi keliatan recehan dibanding India. Apalagi chance merek Eropa bisa sukses disana lebih besar karena gak fanatik Jepang, beda sama ASEAN yang kecenderungan fanatik Jepang. Bagi merek Eropa, bikin mobil khusus pasar ASEAN rasanya bakalan sia-sia.
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Penasaran nanti launching mau dikasih label apa. Di sini kan apa2 dikasih label "something killer". Mobil, motor, bahkan aplikasi. Bajaj Pulsar keluar jadi Honda Tiger killer. Livina dan mobil sekelasnya keluar jadi Avanza killer. Bajaj udah balik kanan, Honda Tiger (dulu) masih primadona. Avanza kegoyang Expander, balik lagi ke juara kelas.

Btw desainnya...
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octafiantos wrote: 31 May 2019, 23:26 Penasaran nanti launching mau dikasih label apa. Di sini kan apa2 dikasih label "something killer". Mobil, motor, bahkan aplikasi. Bajaj Pulsar keluar jadi Honda Tiger killer. Livina dan mobil sekelasnya keluar jadi Avanza killer. Bajaj udah balik kanan, Honda Tiger (dulu) masih primadona. Avanza kegoyang Expander, balik lagi ke juara kelas.

Btw desainnya...
Confero killer om.. :mky_01:
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India setaon jualan 3 jt mobil vs indonesia jualan 1 jt mobil
50% nya toyota daihatsu

Ada pabrikan mau invest disini aja uda bagus
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Kabarnya mesinya 1000cc 3 cylinder. Wow kebayang ngeden nya kekmana... :mky_01:
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ndro wrote: 01 Jun 2019, 11:06 Kabarnya mesinya 1000cc 3 cylinder. Wow kebayang ngeden nya kekmana... :mky_01:
Kecuali dpt mesin 1000cc 3 silinder turbo kayak fiesta ecoboost, tapi cuman mimpi kayaknya...hahaha
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Zaxis wrote: 01 Jun 2019, 07:44 India setaon jualan 3 jt mobil vs indonesia jualan 1 jt mobil
50% nya toyota daihatsu

Ada pabrikan mau invest disini aja uda bagus
Jangan lupa, india 50% nya suzuki, jadi sama aja sih ada yg mendominasi
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