Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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sebenarnya bikin thread ini karena tergelitik setelah baca article ini :

https://www.gridoto.com/read/221756567/ ... kmjam#!%2F

kalau 140hp bisa 240kph, gimana yg 190hp kyk crv turbo/cx5 ??

di moose test (walopun mungkin parameter nya/space obstacle beda? tp bs 116kph?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV2khywBZjA

vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3qrCNR4U9A (ada bbrp video untuk mobil2 berbeda) , tp pointnya untuk pass moose test di 70an kph itu sulit

(maap cm bs link, ga bs upload pict n video)
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Setelah gw research dikit. memang pengetestan di china sana tidak bisa dijadikan acuan dengan moose test di scandinavian sana.

Dan hasilnya adalah di kelas yang sama:
average 118.29km/h.
Mercedes GLA 45 140.9km/h dan
Wuling almaz 116.5 km/h (Below Average)

Sumber http://pingce.bitauto.com/details/910-6.html

Ini ada link juga buat liat Rank pengetesan moose mereka
http://pingce.bitauto.com/paihang/j/27/

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Re: Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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ayla saja bisa 140 kpj apalagi almaz
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Re: Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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slowipah wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:23 sebenarnya bikin thread ini karena tergelitik setelah baca article ini :

https://www.gridoto.com/read/221756567/ ... kmjam#!%2F

kalau 140hp bisa 240kph, gimana yg 190hp kyk crv turbo/cx5 ??

di moose test (walopun mungkin parameter nya/space obstacle beda? tp bs 116kph?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV2khywBZjA

vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3qrCNR4U9A (ada bbrp video untuk mobil2 berbeda) , tp pointnya untuk pass moose test di 70an kph itu sulit

(maap cm bs link, ga bs upload pict n video)
Bantu nampilin video





Menurut saya 240 untuk mesin standar agak sulit (bukan berarti ga bisa), range segitu biasanya lebih mudah di dapat oleh mobil sedan dengan konfigurasi mesin yang mirip
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Re: Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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Tinggal dibandingkan aja sama mobil dengan power dan bobot yang mirip
Ini beberapa Contoh
Dari contoh di bawah so far Almaz yang terkencang.

VW Tiguan TDI2.0 150HP


Peugeot 3008GT 2.0 Diesel, 177HP


Mazda CX-52.0 Skyactive G 2018 160HP
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dapet 240kph di jalanan atau di atas dyno? kalo di atas dyno, asal rasio gir cukup masih sangat mungkin.
soale power gak dihabisi sama hambatan udara.

tapi kalo di jalanan mau cari top speed, bukan cuma power dan berat yang main, aerodinamika sangat berpengaruh.
sebagus itukah aerodinamika almaz?
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saya rasa harusnya bisa, mungkin trek rada panjang
dulu VW Touran seingat sy dpt 180-190...
almaz ya mungkin dengan teknologi lebih maju...harusnya dapat
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Munkin kalo trek belasan KM maybe bisa, lha di sini Trans Jawa udh mulai rame susah juga mau stabil 200++
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Re: Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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osbertc0ol wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:49 Setelah gw research dikit. memang pengetestan di china sana tidak bisa dijadikan acuan dengan moose test di scandinavian sana.

Dan hasilnya adalah di kelas yang sama:
average 118.29km/h.
Mercedes GLA 45 140.9km/h dan
Wuling almaz 116.5 km/h (Below Average)

Sumber http://pingce.bitauto.com/details/910-6.html

Ini ada link juga buat liat Rank pengetesan moose mereka
http://pingce.bitauto.com/paihang/j/27/


moose 2.JPG

moose 1.JPG
thanks gan, great links. lengkap jg yang sudah dites mrk
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Re: Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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Liat bentuknya yg gaq gitu aerodynamic, tenaga mesin kecil & bobot agak berat >1500kg, lmyn impossible. OOT dikit, DFSK 580 dirumah baru sempet bawa di 120an Kph setirnya ud geter, apa ada pengaruh spooring gaq bener ya? secara mobil masih baru <6 bulan & km dibawah 3000 masa udah butuh spooring?

Sama, itu bisa ya foto sambil nyetir 1 tangan gaq gemeteran + gambar kiri kanan jelas?
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Re: Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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Pugman wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:41 Tinggal dibandingkan aja sama mobil dengan power dan bobot yang mirip
Ini beberapa Contoh
Dari contoh di bawah so far Almaz yang terkencang.

VW Tiguan TDI2.0 150HP


Peugeot 3008GT 2.0 Diesel, 177HP


Mazda CX-52.0 Skyactive G 2018 160HP
dari bbrp mobil ini dgn hp yg lbh besar cuma sktr 200-210 kph, canggih ya almaz bs 240 hehehe
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Re: Wuling Almaz bisa 240kph?

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slowipah wrote:sebenarnya bikin thread ini karena tergelitik setelah baca article ini :

https://www.gridoto.com/read/221756567/ ... kmjam#!%2F

kalau 140hp bisa 240kph, gimana yg 190hp kyk crv turbo/cx5 ??

di moose test (walopun mungkin parameter nya/space obstacle beda? tp bs 116kph?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV2khywBZjA

vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3qrCNR4U9A (ada bbrp video untuk mobil2 berbeda) , tp pointnya untuk pass moose test di 70an kph itu sulit

(maap cm bs link, ga bs upload pict n video)
Kalau top speed Wuling Almaz 1500 CC bisa nyampe 240 km, logicnya bisa saja sepanjang speed limiternya di 240 km per hour karena engines sudah turbocharged 140 HP dan di isi bbm bergizi, lha wong all new grand livina 1500 CC yg matic nya CVT saja bisa mencapai speed 175 km per hour padahal bbm cuma saya isi premium ron 88 saat nyobain tol kayu agung to terbanggi besar tgl 6 juni yg lalu.
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kalo pertanyaan sesuai judul, saya gak percaya
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saya ga percaya sih, tp kalo emg real bisa, ya oke jg. gatau jg saya sistem gearing cvt kaya apa bisa segitu.
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Itu dulu ada thread alya stock aja bisa sentuh 170-180 kmh, almaz harusnya bisa :big_grin:
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Mungkin 240 kph = 240 Km Per Hari, setara Jakarta Bekasi 4x PP.
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kalau menurut saya sih bisa2 saja.. as long tidak ada speed limit di ecu nya.. yg jadi pertanyaan, butuh trek berapa panjang untuk mencapai speed itu? Dan butuh waktu berapa lama? Hehe

Bisa saja jalanan yg dia lalui itu turunan.. jadi banyak aspek yg mendukung mobil itu mencapai speed itu.

Saya pernah bawa peugeot 206, speed mentok di 185kmh.. begitu turunan landai, tanpa pedal to throttle speed di 215an (lewat dari speed maxnya dia yg 210).. efek jalanan
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PRBS wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:00 kalau menurut saya sih bisa2 saja.. as long tidak ada speed limit di ecu nya.. yg jadi pertanyaan, butuh trek berapa panjang untuk mencapai speed itu? Dan butuh waktu berapa lama? Hehe

Bisa saja jalanan yg dia lalui itu turunan.. jadi banyak aspek yg mendukung mobil itu mencapai speed itu.

Saya pernah bawa peugeot 206, speed mentok di 185kmh.. begitu turunan landai, tanpa pedal to throttle speed di 215an (lewat dari speed maxnya dia yg 210).. efek jalanan
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350 kmh juga bisa dengan mudah kok.....







































tapi didorong sama koenigsegg regera dari belakang.


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bsa sehh mungkin aj, kl penumpang sendiri, ganti gigi di torsi ideal, trus trek super panjang

cuman masalahnya, ntuh ban apa kabar.. blm lg rem kl mendadak harus panic breaking
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Imho...hampir gak mungkin.

Pengalaman dulu bawa sedan2 jepang cc besar macam galant v6, cronos v6 m/t di tol. Mereka aja butuh effort yang nggak kecil untuk nyentuh 200kmh.
Baik itu effort mesin ataupun kondisi jalan.

Mungkin yang lumayan gampang camry q 3.5 macam mobilnya rekan2 SM yang ada thread khususnya...276hp cmiiw
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Herman7103 wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:08
slowipah wrote:sebenarnya bikin thread ini karena tergelitik setelah baca article ini :

https://www.gridoto.com/read/221756567/ ... kmjam#!%2F

kalau 140hp bisa 240kph, gimana yg 190hp kyk crv turbo/cx5 ??

di moose test (walopun mungkin parameter nya/space obstacle beda? tp bs 116kph?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV2khywBZjA

vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3qrCNR4U9A (ada bbrp video untuk mobil2 berbeda) , tp pointnya untuk pass moose test di 70an kph itu sulit

(maap cm bs link, ga bs upload pict n video)
Kalau top speed Wuling Almaz 1500 CC bisa nyampe 240 km, logicnya bisa saja sepanjang speed limiternya di 240 km per hour karena engines sudah turbocharged 140 HP dan di isi bbm bergizi, lha wong all new grand livina 1500 CC yg matic nya CVT saja bisa mencapai speed 175 km per hour padahal bbm cuma saya isi premium ron 88 saat nyobain tol kayu agung to terbanggi besar tgl 6 juni yg lalu.
Justru secara logic 1500cc turbo seperti Almaz dalam keadaan standard itu sulit. Memang bisa jadi final ratio CVT Almaz bisa untuk speed segitu, tapi karena COD Wuling ini besar, saya rasa tidak bisa, karena mobil kecil sekelas VW Golf GTI, Peugeot 308 GTI, aja agak lama untuk sampai ke 250kpj.

Untuk Grand Livina bisa 175 itu saya percaya, memang typical performance mesin 1500cc ada disitu.

Kalau Almaz mesin Standar lari 240? Tunggu dulu..

Neh tambah lagi, Civic Turbo 170hp aja ngos-ngosan mau ke 210


Atau ini neh Swift Sport sama-sama 140hp cuma 215


Ini lebih gokil Yaris GRMN 1.8, 212HP cuma 230


Jadi menurut saya si Almaz perlu more than 200hp untuk bisa 240kpj
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swift sport untuk kelas power 140hp kayaknya ringan bgt ya ke 200kmh.. kalau dilihat dari rpm, masih panjang napasnya.. kalau yaris GRMN mah gila itu..

Btw, yg aneh di almaz 242kmh itu, rpm dia masih napasnya (sekitar 4500rpm).. impossible sih kecuali fix dia lagi turunan.
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KALAU yang difoto itu ada Almaz mesin Standar, Saya mau bikin list, mobil apa aja yang sudah setara atau dilampaui dalam hal Topspeed

1. Mazda CX-5 2.0 skyactive G 160HP
2. VW Tiguan TDI2.0 150HP
3. Peugeot 3008 1,6THP Gt Line 165hp
4. Peugeot 3008 Gt 177hp
5. Civic Turbo 1.5 170hp
6. Swift Sport 140hp
7. Yaris GRMN 1.8 Turbo, 212hp
8. Peugeot 508 GT Sedan 1.6 Turbo 225HP

Ada yang mau nambahin?
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Turunan panjang dan trek kosong melompong mungkin bisa. Atau hack aja speedonya jadi nampilin 100kph diatas speed actual. Haha
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