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Denger2 ATPM passenger car join, ada Mitsubishi, Nissan, dan Toyota
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Thread paling pendek di seraya

Event udah lewat kaga ada yg dtaang

There is no demand for electric cars

Says Honda CEO and BMW Engine Head
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kalo dibilang gak ada demand kok penjualan Tesela bisa kenceng gitu yah (US & Global sales).......terlepas dari yg beneran beli / Lease

Bahkan image TESELA skg udah kayak Play St / Apple product, konsumen udah berani bayar DP hanya dgn liat gambar foto2 aja (terjadi di Cyber Truck)

Data penjualan bisa di gugel

Komen dari CEO yg bilang gak ada demand thd EV cars.......ya itu mungkin sama spt orang yg bilang =

"Buat apa sih cari duit banyak2, toh gak dibawa mati'

kalo kata seseorang ahli strategi & manajemen, komen tsb hanya excuse bahwa orang tsb sebetulnya "tidak mampu".........

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Demand electric car cuman ada di scandinavia dan california
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Turboman wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:58 kalo dibilang gak ada demand kok penjualan Tesela bisa kenceng gitu yah (US & Global sales).......terlepas dari yg beneran beli / Lease

Bahkan image TESELA skg udah kayak Play St / Apple product, konsumen udah berani bayar DP hanya dgn liat gambar foto2 aja (terjadi di Cyber Truck)

Data penjualan bisa di gugel

Komen dari CEO yg bilang gak ada demand thd EV cars.......ya itu mungkin sama spt orang yg bilang =

"Buat apa sih cari duit banyak2, toh gak dibawa mati'

kalo kata seseorang ahli strategi & manajemen, komen tsb hanya excuse bahwa orang tsb sebetulnya "tidak mampu".........

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Turboman wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:58 kalo dibilang gak ada demand kok penjualan Tesela bisa kenceng gitu yah (US & Global sales).......terlepas dari yg beneran beli / Lease

Bahkan image TESELA skg udah kayak Play St / Apple product, konsumen udah berani bayar DP hanya dgn liat gambar foto2 aja (terjadi di Cyber Truck)

Demand yg ada buat tesla

Liat aja eks ketua dpr dll beli tesla dr importir umum dgn harga selangit

Giliran ioniq dan leaf dan byd launching, mrk ga beli

Di indo beli tesla cuman buat gengsi

Liat aja nanti begitu flashmemorynya matot, pintu gullwing ngaco. Bakalan muncul di iklan showroom

No demand for electric car
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Kalo saya liat banyaknya opini sana sini di berbagai media global, ini menggambarkan kepentingan masing2 pihak aja si

1. Di sisi pabrikan yg udah invest gede2 an di pabrik mesin ICE :
Semua ingin pabriknya jalan terus, kalo bisa "selama mungkin" karena udah kadung nyemplung dalem baik utk manufakturnya / industri komponennya / Supply Chain & R&D nya

brp banyak industri akan mati jika trend beralih ke EV......so many

Are they worry ? of course.......

tu kan yg bilang no demand for EV semua pabrikan pemain besar mesin ICE

2. Di sisi pabrikan yg udah invest gede utk EV, ya pasti mereka juga akan propaganda gede2 an / lobby sana sini juga...........krn banyak yg harus "memberi return" kpd para investor nya

Dan perlu diingat = berita2 juga utk menjaga / menaikkan harga saham persh2 tsb juga / menenangkan para investir besar nya (berlaku utk sektor industri apapun)

Kalo saya pribadi......don't care for both side

Kalo saya pilih EV
1. Utk beli saya pilih yg relatif simple, not too many Control Units / Controller / E modul

mungkin mobil2 simple macam IONIQ / MG ZS EV

2. Utk mobil yg "ribet" spt Tesela, cukup Lease / naik Taxi nya aja......itu pasti nanti kalo udah di atas 5 tahun akan banyak problem

Dan tetap piara mobil ICE jadoel juga (siapa tahu jadi collector items......wkwkw)

Btw.......

Mungkin pilihan paling make sense utk negara berkembang :
Dual Power car

EV with GenSet inside, pakai mesin 660 cc en Generator 10 Kva....utk cass batere nya

dan mobilnya juga jangan "kelewat ribet"

wkwkwkwkkww

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kalo gw gak peduli n gak mau tau opini A B C....

gw suka...gw ada duit....gw beli....


gw suka leaf tapi gak ada duit...END


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kompresorz wrote:kalo gw gak peduli n gak mau tau opini A B C....

gw suka...gw ada duit....gw beli....


gw suka leaf tapi gak ada duit...END


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dengar2 rumor LEAF mau dijual 800 jt ?

kalo bener........komen ane = harga Becanda......cocok buat MobDin penguasa Sunda AiyemLemper aja

* runnnnnnnnnn *
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pengen beli motor sama mobil listrik supaya mengurangi polusi di kota :mky_02:
(jadinya polusi dekat pembangkit :wkkk: )
sayang belum ada mobil mainstream electric (agya-ayla, calsig, avanza-xenia, yaris-jazz electric, dll) dengan harga < 300 jt, sesuai mayoritas pembeli mobil saat ini
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Maaf mau nanya, kalo tesla laris manis kenapa sampai skrg tesla masih merugi ya?
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sealplayerz wrote:Maaf mau nanya, kalo tesla laris manis kenapa sampai skrg tesla masih merugi ya?
Project nya banyak bener

Space Ek
Hyperloop
Solar Power products
CAPEX buat Giga factory
dll

biasa lah start up kan cenderung bakar2 duit buat naekkin awareness

wkwkwakw

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Turboman wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:44
kompresorz wrote:kalo gw gak peduli n gak mau tau opini A B C....

gw suka...gw ada duit....gw beli....


gw suka leaf tapi gak ada duit...END



Screenshot_20200125-181200_YouTube.jpg
dengar2 rumor LEAF mau dijual 800 jt ?

kalo bener........komen ane = harga Becanda......cocok buat MobDin penguasa Sunda AiyemLemper aja

* runnnnnnnnnn *
Wah kalo hyundai bs jualan ioniq ga nyampe 600jt , bakal blunder kalo leaf dijual 800jt
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Maaf ikut nimbrung.. mana mungkin ev no demand.. klo no demand trus ad pabrik yg bikin cr mati dnk namany pasar ga ad... dlu jga hape touchscreen jga pertama x yg keluarin Apple.. pabrikan kek Blackberry sma Nokia yg belagu kan,. Blg ga akan bertahan lama.. Nyata ny skrg gmn?? 2 perusahaan itu yg tdny raja Handphone.. who knows msh ad kah yg pke BB dan Nokia skrg.. lets see pabrikan yg ga mo ngikutin perubahan dan perkembangan jaman siap tereliminasi...
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Kaga ada yg post di topik ini

Kaga ada demand buat electric car
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Wuling e100 atau dfsk yg electric kpn ya
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sealplayerz wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:07 Maaf mau nanya, kalo tesla laris manis kenapa sampai skrg tesla masih merugi ya?
Udah profit kok sekarang
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Ev baca reviewnya fitra eri menarik bgt ya
Tenaga instan, irit, beberapa ada yg autopilot dan kayanya perawatan simpel
Sayang yg 3 baris piilihannya minim

Btw um Turbo, tesla yg rawan rewelnya teknologi apanya dibanding ev macam ioniq?

Ev no demand? Klo pendapat saya ini pelan2 akan jadi future car nggrogotin terus pasar mobil fosil
Apalagi kl makinn banyak produsen yg bikin ev car, harga makinnterkoreksi krn persaingan, demand akan makin meninggi
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evolution21 wrote:Ev baca reviewnya fitra eri menarik bgt ya
Tenaga instan, irit, beberapa ada yg autopilot dan kayanya perawatan simpel
Sayang yg 3 baris piilihannya minim

Btw um Turbo, tesla yg rawan rewelnya teknologi apanya dibanding ev macam ioniq?

Ev no demand? Klo pendapat saya ini pelan2 akan jadi future car nggrogotin terus pasar mobil fosil
Apalagi kl makinn banyak produsen yg bikin ev car, harga makinnterkoreksi krn persaingan, demand akan makin meninggi
ya liat aja itu kayak type 3 mau buka pintu / buka laci aja pencetan semua

itu semua pasti pake Control unit

MPV sliding door kayak Alprat / Frit aja pake Control unit utk sliding door nya

namanya elektronik kan ada usia pakai nya
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Kalo EV booming, yg minum solar B100 siapa itu ya? Pemerintah kita kan amat bangga dgn sawit :big_exellent:
REAR-WHEEL DRIVE TO KEEP YOU MOVING FORWARD

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Sekedar utk baca baca

Gimana realita trend EV cars yg sebenarnya

hehehehe
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