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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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josomba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:25
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:09
yah tp ga smua dpkul rata smua ban eco ampas sehh

tuh ad toyo nanoenergy3.. ban kelas eco tp mantep grip nya..

mungkin kebetulan aj ini ekopeyang ama enash1t itu insinyur nya lg abis pesta mabok2an ciu smaleman pas lg ngeracik ban
Koyo Nanoenergy nampaknya kek michi xm series ya. Kelas eco tp grip mirip dah ama BS turansah ar series dan LeMans ala2 alias dunlop LM series.
Iya mbah

Saya perna setir masda 2 yg pake ban itu.. eh buset itu ban lengket bener yah ama aspal
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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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erwinign wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:45
josomba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:25
DOHC wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:09
yah tp ga smua dpkul rata smua ban eco ampas sehh

tuh ad toyo nanoenergy3.. ban kelas eco tp mantep grip nya..

mungkin kebetulan aj ini ekopeyang ama enash1t itu insinyur nya lg abis pesta mabok2an ciu smaleman pas lg ngeracik ban
Koyo Nanoenergy nampaknya kek michi xm series ya. Kelas eco tp grip mirip dah ama BS turansah ar series dan LeMans ala2 alias dunlop LM series.
Yoko bluearth ES kayanya bs dibilang setara ama nanoenergy ya om, pernah dpt grab mobilio pake itu ban cukup silent
Inget yoko, jd inget dulu pernah pake C.Drive 2, advan db (e70 maupun vs551)....


Sekarang owe bingung ama lineup yoko di indo ... Bluearth ini eco series? Sepertinya dah ga banyak toko yg jualan yokohama begitu juga dengan Toyo d daerah domisili saya.
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josomba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:25
Koyo Nanoenergy nampaknya kek michi xm series ya. Kelas eco tp grip mirip dah ama BS turansah ar series dan LeMans ala2 alias dunlop LM series.
Iya mbah

Saya perna setir masda 2 yg pake ban itu.. eh buset itu ban lengket bener yah ama aspal
Semalem baru liat repiu paultan atau lowyat gitu, pd blg grip seperti mbah klep bilang, tp aquaplaningnya rada2 horror... :big_biglaugh:

Oot ke lm705 bentar
Owe lg pake lm705 di ban belakang, kalau lg ngebut d tol kok rasanya seperti kurang gigit ke jalanan...beda sama pas full hankook prime3 or pas full turansah ar20...kalau lg selap-selip seolah2 pantat mubil gak responsip...

Apa karena ban belang depan belakang? Nampaknya harusnya ndak kan y?
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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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josomba wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:38
erwinign wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:45
josomba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:25

Koyo Nanoenergy nampaknya kek michi xm series ya. Kelas eco tp grip mirip dah ama BS turansah ar series dan LeMans ala2 alias dunlop LM series.
Yoko bluearth ES kayanya bs dibilang setara ama nanoenergy ya om, pernah dpt grab mobilio pake itu ban cukup silent
Inget yoko, jd inget dulu pernah pake C.Drive 2, advan db (e70 maupun vs551)....


Sekarang owe bingung ama lineup yoko di indo ... Bluearth ini eco series? Sepertinya dah ga banyak toko yg jualan yokohama begitu juga dengan Toyo d daerah domisili saya.
DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:07
josomba wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 15:25
Koyo Nanoenergy nampaknya kek michi xm series ya. Kelas eco tp grip mirip dah ama BS turansah ar series dan LeMans ala2 alias dunlop LM series.
Iya mbah

Saya perna setir masda 2 yg pake ban itu.. eh buset itu ban lengket bener yah ama aspal
Semalem baru liat repiu paultan atau lowyat gitu, pd blg grip seperti mbah klep bilang, tp aquaplaningnya rada2 horror... :big_biglaugh:

Oot ke lm705 bentar
Owe lg pake lm705 di ban belakang, kalau lg ngebut d tol kok rasanya seperti kurang gigit ke jalanan...beda sama pas full hankook prime3 or pas full turansah ar20...kalau lg selap-selip seolah2 pantat mubil gak responsip...

Apa karena ban belang depan belakang? Nampaknya harusnya ndak kan y?
Bener mbagh

Skrg yoko ud ga sbanyak dl.. pdahal dl saya sering pake yoko, rata2 puas.. harga mirip BS tp performance bagusan

Lineup nya kl dl sehh simple yah.. a drive, db series kelas kerehore, c drive s drive medi0c0re.. advan kelas sultan

Skrg entahlah

LM705 mustinya seh grip mantep mbah.. dia bukan kelas eco koq... beda ban jg ga masalah kl emg ban nya ngegrip.. saya di hrv depan dunlop sportmaxx, balakang hankook noble ventus s2, mantep jaya slalu

Nahh skalian mo review ban ampas saya d riborn, gt champ touring a/s.. grip kering nya bubarrrr, kmaren iseng pas exit tol alsut, saya sengaja rada kenceng, laghh mendadak itu blakang mobil bergeser.. ampe serem saya.. padahal jalanan kering
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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josomba wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:38 -------
Oot ke lm705 bentar
Owe lg pake lm705 di ban belakang, kalau lg ngebut d tol kok rasanya seperti kurang gigit ke jalanan...beda sama pas full hankook prime3 or pas full turansah ar20...kalau lg selap-selip seolah2 pantat mubil gak responsip...

Apa karena ban belang depan belakang? Nampaknya harusnya ndak kan y?
cobain tuker om depan ke belakang, belakang ke depan. kl msh begitu juga, ya confirm bannya.

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Nahh skalian mo review ban ampas saya d riborn, gt champ touring a/s.. grip kering nya bubarrrr, kmaren iseng pas exit tol alsut, saya sengaja rada kenceng, laghh mendadak itu blakang mobil bergeser.. ampe serem saya.. padahal jalanan kering
coba check tekanan angin om, pake tyre gauge digital yg akurat. mana tau itu over inflated.
lagi pula emang udah lewat break-in 300 km? udah ya mobil ngukur jalan itu kan.
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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:25
josomba wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:38 -------
Oot ke lm705 bentar
Owe lg pake lm705 di ban belakang, kalau lg ngebut d tol kok rasanya seperti kurang gigit ke jalanan...beda sama pas full hankook prime3 or pas full turansah ar20...kalau lg selap-selip seolah2 pantat mubil gak responsip...

Apa karena ban belang depan belakang? Nampaknya harusnya ndak kan y?
cobain tuker om depan ke belakang, belakang ke depan. kl msh begitu juga, ya confirm bannya.

DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:27
Nahh skalian mo review ban ampas saya d riborn, gt champ touring a/s.. grip kering nya bubarrrr, kmaren iseng pas exit tol alsut, saya sengaja rada kenceng, laghh mendadak itu blakang mobil bergeser.. ampe serem saya.. padahal jalanan kering
coba check tekanan angin om, pake tyre gauge digital yg akurat. mana tau itu over inflated.
lagi pula emang udah lewat break-in 300 km? udah ya mobil ngukur jalan itu kan.
Parahan pas masih di depan mbah ...

Waktu spooring abis ganti ke lm705 ini juga koplak
Ban baru sengaja iseng taruh di depan .... mobil lari kanan (setir miring kiri) ... dituker kiri ke kanan sama aja.

Dipindah ke belakang, setir jd miring kanan (mobil narik kiri) ... akhirnya mekanik fine tuning ga liat2 spek komputer lg :big_biglaugh: Padahal di tempat saya spooring ini dah langganan n cukup percaya mereka kredibel lah.

Ya sekarang sih lurus, tp seperti gimana gitu kalau selap selip
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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:25
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udah lewat break-in 300 km? udah ya mobil ngukur jalan itu kan.

kenapa harus jauh-jauh 300km? burn out beberapa kali aja, malah lebih cepet.




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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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josomba wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:35
Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:25
josomba wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:38 -------
Oot ke lm705 bentar
Owe lg pake lm705 di ban belakang, kalau lg ngebut d tol kok rasanya seperti kurang gigit ke jalanan...beda sama pas full hankook prime3 or pas full turansah ar20...kalau lg selap-selip seolah2 pantat mubil gak responsip...

Apa karena ban belang depan belakang? Nampaknya harusnya ndak kan y?
cobain tuker om depan ke belakang, belakang ke depan. kl msh begitu juga, ya confirm bannya.

DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:27
Nahh skalian mo review ban ampas saya d riborn, gt champ touring a/s.. grip kering nya bubarrrr, kmaren iseng pas exit tol alsut, saya sengaja rada kenceng, laghh mendadak itu blakang mobil bergeser.. ampe serem saya.. padahal jalanan kering
coba check tekanan angin om, pake tyre gauge digital yg akurat. mana tau itu over inflated.
lagi pula emang udah lewat break-in 300 km? udah ya mobil ngukur jalan itu kan.
Parahan pas masih di depan mbah ...

Waktu spooring abis ganti ke lm705 ini juga koplak
Ban baru sengaja iseng taruh di depan .... mobil lari kanan (setir miring kiri) ... dituker kiri ke kanan sama aja.

Dipindah ke belakang, setir jd miring kanan (mobil narik kiri) ... akhirnya mekanik fine tuning ga liat2 spek komputer lg :big_biglaugh: Padahal di tempat saya spooring ini dah langganan n cukup percaya mereka kredibel lah.

Ya sekarang sih lurus, tp seperti gimana gitu kalau selap selip
Saya juga pakai sepasang LM705 di belakang, di depan sepasang Falken Sincera SN832i. Untuk handling lebih terasa mantap saat Falken pasang di depan, perubahan saat peralihan kontur aspal halus ke kasar terasa langsung, cuma road noise cukup terasa.

Kalau LM705 lebih senyap, empuk setara Sincera SN832i , steering terasa sedikit vague.
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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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josomba wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:35
Parahan pas masih di depan mbah ...

Waktu spooring abis ganti ke lm705 ini juga koplak
Ban baru sengaja iseng taruh di depan .... mobil lari kanan (setir miring kiri) ... dituker kiri ke kanan sama aja.

Dipindah ke belakang, setir jd miring kanan (mobil narik kiri) ... akhirnya mekanik fine tuning ga liat2 spek komputer lg :big_biglaugh: Padahal di tempat saya spooring ini dah langganan n cukup percaya mereka kredibel lah.

Ya sekarang sih lurus, tp seperti gimana gitu kalau selap selip
spooring lagi aja om ... ban baru perlu waktu utk bead nya seated sempurna di bibir velg.

sy ada cerita juga masalah spooring. pas pertama pasang primacy sy minta spooring gratisannya ntar aja krn mau ganti rack end dulu iseng. pas br jalan itu setir miring kiri. udah jalan bbrp hari eh normal lagi lempeng tengah kl jalan lurus (spt sebelum ganti ban).

akhirnya sy spooring deh setelah ganti rack end krn miring lagi (naturally). abis spooring bbrp hari kemudian sy iseng ngencengin baut atas shock support pakai air ratchet, apalagi abis mobil dicuci steam. bersih kan. makin rapet tuh shock support. eh miring lagi setirnya :big_cry:

pagi ini tadi ke bengkel spooring lagi. lempeng lagi. :big_biglaugh:
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marmut wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:59
Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:25
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udah lewat break-in 300 km? udah ya mobil ngukur jalan itu kan.

kenapa harus jauh-jauh 300km? burn out beberapa kali aja, malah lebih cepet.




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coba ya dibaca lagi itu modul principia van asemreges chapter XII halaman 9003.5




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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:52
marmut wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:59
Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:25
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udah lewat break-in 300 km? udah ya mobil ngukur jalan itu kan.

kenapa harus jauh-jauh 300km? burn out beberapa kali aja, malah lebih cepet.




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coba ya dibaca lagi itu modul principia van asemreges chapter XII halaman 9003.5




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disitu tertera :

"ban baru wajip diamplas dengan grit 120 selama 2 jam sebelum dipasang ke pelek agar napak ke aspalnya makin sempurna"
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pantesan ini ngawur bener ban saya

ternyata ad beberapa hal yg saya miss
- proses bedding in 300km pertama yg ga bener, blom di burn out, atau di amplas
- abis ganti ban kaga di spooring
- angin masi rata 35

dah lama ga consult ke buku principia le mechanica van asemreges..
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DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:07 pantesan ini ngawur bener ban saya

ternyata ad beberapa hal yg saya miss
- proses bedding in 300km pertama yg ga bener, blom di burn out, atau di amplas
- abis ganti ban kaga di spooring
- angin masi rata 35

dah lama ga consult ke buku principia le mechanica van asemreges..
kaga dapet spooring gratisan?

skrg paling bener spooringnya om. jangan pas baru dipasang belum juga jalan udah di spooring. jamin ngawur dah pas ban nantinya sdh seated.
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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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marmut wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:04
disitu tertera :

"ban baru wajip diamplas dengan grit 120 selama 2 jam sebelum dipasang ke pelek agar napak ke aspalnya makin sempurna"
oh itu msh yg versi 1.0 belum direvisi, karangan mbah bejo jaman fort model T
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Re: Serba Serbi Ban Part 3

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Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:23
DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:07 pantesan ini ngawur bener ban saya

ternyata ad beberapa hal yg saya miss
- proses bedding in 300km pertama yg ga bener, blom di burn out, atau di amplas
- abis ganti ban kaga di spooring
- angin masi rata 35

dah lama ga consult ke buku principia le mechanica van asemreges..
kaga dapet spooring gratisan?

skrg paling bener spooringnya om. jangan pas baru dipasang belum juga jalan udah di spooring. jamin ngawur dah pas ban nantinya sdh seated.
nga dapet mbah

boro2 spooring.. enci2 yg punya nya pelit pisan.. gratis pentil ban aj ampe gontok2an dl
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Lahhh ini mastah-mastah DIY obok-obok trid lendir sekarang pindah trid karet bunder ...

Ijin duduk manis, ngupi sambil sedot ilmunya mastah-mastah semua ... Lanjutken !
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DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:46
nga dapet mbah

boro2 spooring.. enci2 yg punya nya pelit pisan.. gratis pentil ban aj ampe gontok2an dl
jadi kaga dibalancing juga dong?
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Or4cle wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:59 Lahhh ini mastah-mastah DIY obok-obok trid lendir sekarang pindah trid karet bunder ...

Ijin duduk manis, ngupi sambil sedot ilmunya mastah-mastah semua ... Lanjutken !
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Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:56
DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:46
nga dapet mbah

boro2 spooring.. enci2 yg punya nya pelit pisan.. gratis pentil ban aj ampe gontok2an dl
jadi kaga dibalancing juga dong?
kaga om

lah abis ganti ban malah setir jd lurus anteng banget

lagian spooring gratisan apa kaga serem om.. 5 menit kelar punya gt ?
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DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:41
kaga om

lah abis ganti ban malah setir jd lurus anteng banget

lagian spooring gratisan apa kaga serem om.. 5 menit kelar punya gt ?
:big_dunno:

balancing dong om .... masa ganti ban ga di balance. citbango doang 4 roda. yg biasa aja ga usah high speed balancing.

spooring gratisan? di toko ban ane pake Hunter 3D om. maknyusss
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DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:41
Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:56
DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:46
nga dapet mbah

boro2 spooring.. enci2 yg punya nya pelit pisan.. gratis pentil ban aj ampe gontok2an dl
jadi kaga dibalancing juga dong?
kaga om

lah abis ganti ban malah setir jd lurus anteng banget

lagian spooring gratisan apa kaga serem om.. 5 menit kelar punya gt ?

beli ban ngga gratis balance? ini beneran apa main-main? beli di toko online? coba sebutin nama tokonya mbah, kalo perlu kasih fonts 100 pt di bold biar jelas.
kalo valve stem setau saya emang musti bayar 10rb per piece.
masang tanda balance-nya ketemu valve stem nggak tu?
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Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:58
DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:41
kaga om

lah abis ganti ban malah setir jd lurus anteng banget

lagian spooring gratisan apa kaga serem om.. 5 menit kelar punya gt ?
:big_dunno:

balancing dong om .... masa ganti ban ga di balance. citbango doang 4 roda. yg biasa aja ga usah high speed balancing.

spooring gratisan? di toko ban ane pake Hunter 3D om. maknyusss

mbah shifu, truing wheelset sepeda aja 2 biji kena cepek ceng.... masa balance roda mobil 4 roda cit ban go? velg 10"?
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marmut wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 14:07
mbah shifu, truing wheelset sepeda aja 2 biji kena cepek ceng.... masa balance roda mobil 4 roda cit ban go? velg 10"?
ga percaya. 16" laaa selamet tyre kebon jukut bdg. kl ga salah ya, udah ane buang bon nya. spooringnya 150 rb.

di tempat beli ban, automaster veteran 210 rb spooring + balancing.

ini bukan jakarta mbah... nonton XXI aja msh 25-35 rb :big_weee:
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Hoo.. kl balancing mah dapet.. spooring yg kaga

Kl ganti ban ga gratis balancing sehh, saya tiban tuh toko nya pake ban beko
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marmut wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 14:07
Omnibus wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:58
DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 13:41
kaga om

lah abis ganti ban malah setir jd lurus anteng banget

lagian spooring gratisan apa kaga serem om.. 5 menit kelar punya gt ?
:big_dunno:

balancing dong om .... masa ganti ban ga di balance. citbango doang 4 roda. yg biasa aja ga usah high speed balancing.

spooring gratisan? di toko ban ane pake Hunter 3D om. maknyusss

mbah shifu, truing wheelset sepeda aja 2 biji kena cepek ceng.... masa balance roda mobil 4 roda cit ban go? velg 10"?
D tempat saya rata2 balans ban itu range sabango ampe goban per ban..

Ini tret lama2 bunyi nya dah kaya lg d pasar aj
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DOHC wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 14:38 Hoo.. kl balancing mah dapet.. spooring yg kaga

Kl ganti ban ga gratis balancing sehh, saya tiban tuh toko nya pake ban beko

spooring nopek go masa mo digratisin? kapan bisa cuan buat liburan ke bali?
mbah, ga nyangka yak mbah shifu Omnibus ternyata punya toko ban, kita maen kesana yuk.... cobain spooring pake hunter 3d.