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Re: Sedan mesin besar pengganti Accord V6

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pradit_d wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:27 LS460 XF40, cuman klo ane ogah karena pajaknya masih 17-20jt an setahun. LS430 XF30 yg facelift, ntah kenapa di mata ane ini keliatan lebih ningrat dibanding XF40 bentuknya, cuman unitnya rare di sini ya, itu bakalan jadi kendala cari unitnya kayaknya.
LS460L pajaknya 11,9jt jakarta om. :big_peace:
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adriangaut wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 16:31
Jose wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 14:52 klo mau naik V8 udah nggak ada di budget 250-350..di budget itu cuma ada V8 nya E34 & E38 yang sudah uzur dan rawan ambrol klo dipaksa high rev
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350jt udah bsa dpt LS460L pre facelift om
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b0ku wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:07
Goes2hell wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 19:46
buat harian udah ada CRV RM umm.. accord juga dah bingung mau diapain.. mau diboost tapi transmisinya matic dan Fwd pula :mky_05:
coba modif suspensi sama remnya om kalo jazz saya sih malah abis banyaknya di handling, mesin cuma kenalpot semua dah ganti tapi muffler standart biar ada tendangan balik karena matic, sama pasang buat setelan gasnya pasti mesinnya berasa jauh lebih galak biarpun tenaganya sama, kalo chasisnya enak otomatis mobilnya lebih fun to drive biarpun powernya gak gede :mky_01:

karena kalo dana segitu dengan spek yang om mau semuanya mobil rentan mahal benerinnya paling kalo mau cari aman coba nyari lexus V6 tapi powernya setau saya di bawah accord semua :big_think:

F30 328i 335i sih pilihan paling bagus cuma harganya masih diatas itu setau saya
udah nempel bbk ap racing 4P um.. coilover BC racing
ChZ wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:44 yang susah itu mau yang enak hi rev tapi benchmark awalnya udah J35 engine honda... ada pengalaman serupa di temen saya bahkan udah ganti ganti pake mersi V6 pun tetep belum ketemu yang V6 nya se memuaskan accord J35 apalagi kalo tipikal kaki suka injek gas sampe high rev.

yang susah lagi bener krn accord J35 ini gak terlalu populer untuk project car jadi upgrade options nya minim... transmisi 5AT nya jadi limitations kalo dipush lebih. ngga bisa di modif modif transmisinya beda ama kijang atau fortuner yang msh ada gotrans.

beda ama civic turbo yang walau CVT tapi ud banyak performance parts buat jaga ketahanan CVTnya dan memang dari orok ud disiapkan buat jadi project car.
Kalo J35 bisa swap manuay tranny beda cerita.. sepertinya memang harus disudahi penderitaan dan kebuntuan 5 speed AT ini haha

sempet malah dibisikin buat ambil brio facelift bangun L15 boosted karena udah beda zaman sekarang.. small engine + turbo atau malah hybrid sekalian
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lemonadelovers wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:51
pradit_d wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:27 LS460 XF40, cuman klo ane ogah karena pajaknya masih 17-20jt an setahun. LS430 XF30 yg facelift, ntah kenapa di mata ane ini keliatan lebih ningrat dibanding XF40 bentuknya, cuman unitnya rare di sini ya, itu bakalan jadi kendala cari unitnya kayaknya.
LS460L pajaknya 11,9jt jakarta om. :big_peace:
Waah jauh bgt ama bali ya. Tapi masa ls460 cuman segitu? soalnya tmn ane punya gs300 n is300 di jkt th 2008 pajaknya 8jt-an, selisihnya dikit ya ama ls460
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350jt bisa dpt infiniti fx37 tuh, skrg udah 300an kecil, atau bisa dinego sadis klo mau, kan mobil yg ga banyak peminatnya. Bukan sedan sih tapi mesinnya sama kyk 370z terdengar menjanjikan walaupun blm coba n cuman dari nonton review. Sukur2 jg klo dpt yg fx50, v8 tuh
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Re: Sedan mesin besar pengganti Accord V6

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Goes2hell wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:56
Kalo J35 bisa swap manuay tranny beda cerita.. sepertinya memang harus disudahi penderitaan dan kebuntuan 5 speed AT ini haha

sempet malah dibisikin buat ambil brio facelift bangun L15 boosted karena udah beda zaman sekarang.. small engine + turbo atau malah hybrid sekalian
kalo modelan gitu ya ketauan beli golf GTI atau scirooco 2.0 aja dapet kok dananya :big_biglaugh:
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pradit_d wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:58
lemonadelovers wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:51
pradit_d wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:27 LS460 XF40, cuman klo ane ogah karena pajaknya masih 17-20jt an setahun. LS430 XF30 yg facelift, ntah kenapa di mata ane ini keliatan lebih ningrat dibanding XF40 bentuknya, cuman unitnya rare di sini ya, itu bakalan jadi kendala cari unitnya kayaknya.
LS460L pajaknya 11,9jt jakarta om. :big_peace:
Waah jauh bgt ama bali ya. Tapi masa ls460 cuman segitu? soalnya tmn ane punya gs300 n is300 di jkt th 2008 pajaknya 8jt-an, selisihnya dikit ya ama ls460
Enaknya d jkt NJKB nya rendah om. Klo didaerah masih tinggi makanya pajaknya jd mahal
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Jose wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 14:52 klo mau naik V8 udah nggak ada di budget 250-350..di budget itu cuma ada V8 nya E34 & E38 yang sudah uzur dan rawan ambrol klo dipaksa high rev
Ada om, ls430 keluaran 2000-2006. Klo lebih jadul lagi ya celsior/ls400 atau nissan president, seumuran ama e34 n e38 jatohnya. Non sedan dpt grand cherokee wj
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Audi A8 kaya si Jason Statham the transporter oke tuh kayanya om :big_grin: :big_think:
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KielConstantine wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:16
farizfsa wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 0:34 Audi a6 c7 yang 3.0 v6 quattro bs dpt 350an

Modal 50-70 jt an lg bs 500hp
Yooi . Dy pakenya supercharger sih .. laen daripada yg laen .
Ud gitu quattro awd , traction ada terus .

Either way F10 535i / W212 E400

.. tapi kalo ngotot mau N/A palingan Lexus LS 430 / 460 V8

Or W140 S600 V12 . Suhunya dipanggil dulu kalo ini @om stoneroses
Waduh ada suhu-suhuan, berasa di delta jadinya. He he he
Ngga oom saya mah baru belajar. Ngolong niatin buat mounting matic sama mesin aja banyakan soto betawinya.

Kalau dari pengalaman saya, W140 mah lupain aja oom, mau 6 atau 12, boyo semua, apalagi bawahnya. Setipe sama S90 exec mobil ini.
Ini cocoknya buat model-model Jakarta Semarang lewat tol, kulineran, jos.
Pulang nyerutu di jok belakang, asbak kiri kanan ada, tidur pinggang amann, sehat tentrem maknyus.
Kenceng kayaknya mah iya kalau digas, lah calya juga kenceng kadang-kadang suka lihat di tol.

Kalau misalnya mau ambil, pelan-pelan cari yang standar oom, kalau bisa ambil kolektor punya opa-opa di simprug, ada dua unit monggo dirayu sendiri.
Di tebet tetangga saya pakenya 500 (V8), inimah lupain aja, sama kayak 420, capek nyari part. Kalau 6 sama 12 lebih manusiawi partnya.
Terus ngolong om. 140 itu baljoin arm dll abis juga ngga ada suaranya, harus diintip. Apalagi yang belakang. Ban standarnya 2356016. Kalau dipakein bannya rush lupain aja oom, minimal primacy. Testdrive hajar jalan macet, atau naik ke lembang. Kalau sampe garis 100 (walaupun 120 masih jauh), berarti beli radiator baru. 3an. Bagusnya di 80 lebih dikit, kalau pake mostat 71. Rata-rata udah pake 71 behr. Cuma kalau njenengan mau pake 87 sama aja boyonya, dijamin, naik agak tinggi juga. Terus buka bagasi, kalau bukan varta saran saya juga coret aja. Nah kalau soal vakum, itu selera, mau idup atau mati. Biasanya 2-3x buka, cabut colok reset di kanan belakang.

Part saya kasih gambaran aja: pelampung di blok m basement 1an, di seberangnya gandaria city 6. Jasanya bisa ditebak sendiri he he he

Sisanya mobil gampang, standar 90an lah, ngga ada elektrikal aneh. Paling dicuci naik itu lampu abs ets nyala, nanti ya mati sendiri.
Tinggal isi bensin, tangki cukup kok 100L. Kalau dari Jakk ya di Bandung/Cirebon atau Pelabuhan Ratu baru isi. Dan diisi apa aja jalan asal bukan diesel.

Itu aja...
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Ni cakep om agak diatas budget dikit sii tp masi <400 😆
Smileage lebih penting dari mileage :mky_08:
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pendoli wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:09

Ni cakep om agak diatas budget dikit sii tp masi <400 😆
mantep tp pajak harus bayar 4 tahun tuh hahahaha, siapin 100jtan lagi buat hidupin pajak kali ya

tp oke nih gearbox udah zf.
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Wah Accordnya udah 300hp ++.
Inget dulu temen kuliah pake Accord ini tahun 2011, sering kita pake jalan2 jauh + patungan isi pertamax plus. Terakhir tahun 2013 maticnya jebol hahahaha.
Ditinggal di beres ada 6 bulanan lebih gak selesai2. Gak tau deh nasib mobilnya gimana, karena ditahun itu kita udah pada lulus dan pada misah keluar kota semua..
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Accord V6 itu yg kalo pelan cuma 3 silinder yg jalan yah?
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t105erd wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 13:06 Accord V6 itu yg kalo pelan cuma 3 silinder yg jalan yah?
IYA cuma sistem VCM itu ngerusak mesin soalnya kalo off kan pistonnya jadi dingin yang 3 lagi panas akhirnya bikin ngaco ujung2xnya ada yang bocor oli masuk ruang bakar kalo gak salah yang kena ring pistonnya, sebenernya mendingan di OFF ja :big_think:

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What is VCM Muzzler?

Manufactured in the USA by Aperture Science & Tech - Compatible with popular Honda and Acura Vehicles. Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) is a technology introduced by Honda on its V6 engines to improve EPA fuel efficiency numbers. It involves using the PCM to shut down cylinders at cruising conditions. During VCM, the valves to deactivated cylinders are disabled, along with the spark and fuel supply. This improves fuel efficiency slightly, however, there are other side effects that many have discovered, including Honda themselves. These include: Vibrations in the drivetrain due to unbalanced engine operation Oil bypassing Excess oil consumption Plug fouling Misfiring Engine damage Worn out engine mounts All of these issues are well documented owner complaints, which have led to a class action lawsuit that Honda has lost. Honda has issued warranty extensions covering damage caused by VCM operation for some model years. In addition, Honda has also issued a TSB for fixing those that are experiencing vibration issues. Smart ECO VCM will allow you to take control of your car and prevent ECO mode from enabling and allowing your system to run at its full potential. You plug it inline with the engine coolant temperature sensor and adjust it based on your driving style and location.
katanya sih yang ud pake malah mesinnya jd awet banget :big_biglaugh:
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b0ku wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 15:24
t105erd wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 13:06 Accord V6 itu yg kalo pelan cuma 3 silinder yg jalan yah?
IYA cuma sistem VCM itu ngerusak mesin soalnya kalo off kan pistonnya jadi dingin yang 3 lagi panas akhirnya bikin ngaco ujung2xnya ada yang bocor oli masuk ruang bakar kalo gak salah yang kena ring pistonnya, sebenernya mendingan di OFF ja :big_think:

akalin pake alat ini

Image
What is VCM Muzzler?

Manufactured in the USA by Aperture Science & Tech - Compatible with popular Honda and Acura Vehicles. Variable Cylinder Management (VCM) is a technology introduced by Honda on its V6 engines to improve EPA fuel efficiency numbers. It involves using the PCM to shut down cylinders at cruising conditions. During VCM, the valves to deactivated cylinders are disabled, along with the spark and fuel supply. This improves fuel efficiency slightly, however, there are other side effects that many have discovered, including Honda themselves. These include: Vibrations in the drivetrain due to unbalanced engine operation Oil bypassing Excess oil consumption Plug fouling Misfiring Engine damage Worn out engine mounts All of these issues are well documented owner complaints, which have led to a class action lawsuit that Honda has lost. Honda has issued warranty extensions covering damage caused by VCM operation for some model years. In addition, Honda has also issued a TSB for fixing those that are experiencing vibration issues. Smart ECO VCM will allow you to take control of your car and prevent ECO mode from enabling and allowing your system to run at its full potential. You plug it inline with the engine coolant temperature sensor and adjust it based on your driving style and location.
katanya sih yang ud pake malah mesinnya jd awet banget :big_biglaugh:
Oh bisa jadi V6 konvensional yah, lagian Honda ada2 aja, mau irit malah jadi cepet rusak mesin nya.
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t105erd wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 23:45 Oh bisa jadi V6 konvensional yah, lagian Honda ada2 aja, mau irit malah jadi cepet rusak mesin nya.
yang lucu skrg mazda di CX-5 malah jg pake cylinder deactivation :mky_03:

jadi motor ninja, 2 silinder aja.

kyknya teknologi gini ni buat ngakalin EPA testing aja sih. banyak tech yang sbenernya ga kepake dan gak works di banyak real world scenario tp dibikin karena mau ngadalin EPA testing buat emisi dan fuel cons.
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