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:mky_03: lama2x bensin naek harganya setara E FUEL terus efuel keluar akhirnya dianggap wajar harganya :mky_03: , lama2x cost produksi efuel turun harga tetep yang nambah cuma cuan apalagi belakangan mulai diributin cabon capture technology carbonnya mau diapain kalo dah ditangkep????? :mky_03:
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“EVs convert over 77 per cent of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12 per cent – 30 per cent of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels,” according to the US Department of Energy[iii].

Particularly in city driving, engines waste fuel while idling or operating at very low outputs compared to their design capacity, and engines at low output achieve very low efficiencies. However fossil-fuelled power stations are designed and operated to maximise thermodynamic efficiency, typically achieving between 40 - 55 per cent. In fact, an EV charged by a gasoline-powered generator would consume less gasoline in total than a conventional vehicle.
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ilhami wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:16 “EVs convert over 77 per cent of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12 per cent – 30 per cent of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels,” according to the US Department of Energy[iii].

Particularly in city driving, engines waste fuel while idling or operating at very low outputs compared to their design capacity, and engines at low output achieve very low efficiencies. However fossil-fuelled power stations are designed and operated to maximise thermodynamic efficiency, typically achieving between 40 - 55 per cent. In fact, an EV charged by a gasoline-powered generator would consume less gasoline in total than a conventional vehicle.
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Sepertinya sifat mesin dengan bbm, ada RPM tertentu yang paling efisien, dan itu dipakai "setellan" genset mengisi baterai nya.
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Iseng2 liat harga EV bekas.
Kona EV 2021 ada yang jual kisaran 555 juta.
Barunya waktu itu 675 juta kalo ga salah inget
Sadis juga 1 tahun turun 120 juta.
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Miracle9000 wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:54 Harga iphone naik tuh besok. Semua naik dari SRP normal + 1jt. Yuk yg mau beli iphone baru buruan :big_grin:
Beneran naik :big_chicken: astaga....
1,2jutaan

Kemaein udah gua masukin keranjang

Edit: ga semua seller naik harga
Adq yg masih normal

Ah beli dulu dah ngeri gua...
Buat hadiah ultah istri... aturan akhir tahun baru beli
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ak4ng wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:28 Anggap kona EV yg di charger dgn genset yg minum pertamax vs kona NA yg minum pertamax, apa iya total biaya kona EV lebi murah di charger pake genset :big_peace:
lebih murah om kalo charger sama gensetnya belinya pake daon :ngacir:
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ilhami wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:16 “EVs convert over 77 per cent of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12 per cent – 30 per cent of the energy stored in gasoline to power at the wheels,” according to the US Department of Energy[iii].

Particularly in city driving, engines waste fuel while idling or operating at very low outputs compared to their design capacity, and engines at low output achieve very low efficiencies. However fossil-fuelled power stations are designed and operated to maximise thermodynamic efficiency, typically achieving between 40 - 55 per cent. In fact, an EV charged by a gasoline-powered generator would consume less gasoline in total than a conventional vehicle.
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Berarti secara konsep pas macet2an mobil listrik awet juga ya?

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Tapi menarik infonya

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Salvanost wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:57
Miracle9000 wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:54 Harga iphone naik tuh besok. Semua naik dari SRP normal + 1jt. Yuk yg mau beli iphone baru buruan :big_grin:
Beneran naik :big_chicken: astaga....
1,2jutaan

Kemaein udah gua masukin keranjang

Edit: ga semua seller naik harga
Adq yg masih normal

Ah beli dulu dah ngeri gua...
Buat hadiah ultah istri... aturan akhir tahun baru beli
Tunggu iphone 14 aja om. Pas launching ada diskon biasanya, trus cicilan 0% :ngacir:
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Mz175 wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 0:50 @ctopher7 rasanya udah pernah saya rasakan waktu pertamax harga 9rb an. Kok boyo banget nih mobil.
Begitu naik 12rb lsg balik normal
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btw, kalibrasi bbm pelat merah apakah hanya quantity yg keluar dari dispenser? atau diukur juga nilai oktan/cetane yang keluar dari dispenser?
contohnya, pertamax di spbu 32 atau 34 ternyata oktannya 91,xx atau malah 93 dari hasil pengecekan berkala oleh pihak ketiga.
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AbdulHakim wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:38 btw, kalibrasi bbm pelat merah apakah hanya quantity yg keluar dari dispenser? atau diukur juga nilai oktan/cetane yang keluar dari dispenser?
contohnya, pertamax di spbu 32 atau 34 ternyata oktannya 91,xx atau malah 93 dari hasil pengecekan berkala oleh pihak ketiga.
Yg saya tahu itu pengukuran selain quantity yg sering dilakukan juga density testing. Beberapa kali sempat lihat, alatnya density meter seperti termometer raksa tapi ada tabungnya. Mngkn ini salah satu parameter untuk menilai kualitas penyimpanannya ya om.
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kendibocor wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:20
Salvanost wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:57
Miracle9000 wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:54 Harga iphone naik tuh besok. Semua naik dari SRP normal + 1jt. Yuk yg mau beli iphone baru buruan :big_grin:
Beneran naik :big_chicken: astaga....
1,2jutaan

Kemaein udah gua masukin keranjang

Edit: ga semua seller naik harga
Adq yg masih normal

Ah beli dulu dah ngeri gua...
Buat hadiah ultah istri... aturan akhir tahun baru beli
Tunggu iphone 14 aja om. Pas launching ada diskon biasanya, trus cicilan 0% :ngacir:
emang sengaja beli model lama om... biar pas ada model baru ga minta ganti model :big_biglaugh:
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Salvanost wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:13
Btw, emas mulai turun per 4 Juli ini ya? Ada komen om Salvanost?
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Salvanost wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 5:57
Miracle9000 wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 7:54 Harga iphone naik tuh besok. Semua naik dari SRP normal + 1jt. Yuk yg mau beli iphone baru buruan :big_grin:
Beneran naik :big_chicken: astaga....
1,2jutaan

Kemaein udah gua masukin keranjang

Edit: ga semua seller naik harga
Adq yg masih normal

Ah beli dulu dah ngeri gua...
Buat hadiah ultah istri... aturan akhir tahun baru beli
wah,untung istri gue udah beli duluan hari minggu kemarin di ibox. malahan dapet diskon 1,7 juta. iphone nya pas hari sabtu kecopetan di lift mall pik avenue, hati2 di lif mall. komplotan bawa keluarga dan anak , istri pelaku ketangkep , hp dibawa kabur pelaku, nama pelakunya jusman hutabarat.
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Salvanost wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:35
kendibocor wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:19
evanbngdor wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:05
Cicil sih bisa2 aja nego sama kontraktornya.

Cuma kayaknya mending hold dulu aja deh, paling ngga sampe harga2 stabil dulu. Atau ya manggil tukang buat jasa aja barangnya beli sendiri biar bs nyesuaiin budget jg
:mky_01:
Hati2 mbah kalo kelamaan wait and see, kehajar inflasi lg tahun depan jd 250jt :big_biglaugh:
Kalo ada duit skrng mending jadiin barang/valas/emas, sukur2 cukup buat beli mobil baru lg jg. Alesan sama istri 2-3 thn lagi dijual harga tetap/naik :upss:
Ga bisa emas om...
Peluang besar turun 60.000/gram tahun ini

Kalau simpan 10 tahun mah hajar aja :big_exellent:
beneran udah turun trs Om..
enaknya beli sekarang apa unggu turun lagi?
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qushay20019 wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:10
Salvanost wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:13
Btw, emas mulai turun per 4 Juli ini ya? Ada komen om Salvanost?
Prediksi doank ya
Bisa turun 60.000/gram
Dalam durasi 1 tahun

Dollar mungkin ke 16.000 (jebolin 15.200 dulu)
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satriakarisma wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:25
Salvanost wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:35
kendibocor wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:19

Hati2 mbah kalo kelamaan wait and see, kehajar inflasi lg tahun depan jd 250jt :big_biglaugh:
Kalo ada duit skrng mending jadiin barang/valas/emas, sukur2 cukup buat beli mobil baru lg jg. Alesan sama istri 2-3 thn lagi dijual harga tetap/naik :upss:
Ga bisa emas om...
Peluang besar turun 60.000/gram tahun ini

Kalau simpan 10 tahun mah hajar aja :big_exellent:
beneran udah turun trs Om..
enaknya beli sekarang apa unggu turun lagi?
Anggap qja new normal om
Orang2 udah terbiasa sama situasi sekarang

Jadi harga emas stabil cenderung turun selama 1 tahun

Kecuali situasi eskalasi tambah buruk
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Barang2 import bakalan naik nih dollar ikut2an naik.
Kayaknya mau beli yg berhubungan sama otomotif (modif, beli mobil, dll) harus dipercepat nih :ngacir:
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mau bikin trit baru cuma males bahasnya, saya posting disini aja...

produksi minyak
Malaysia :760.000 barrel/hari
Indonesia : 945.000 barrel /hari
konsumsi minyak:
Malaysia: 700.000 barrel/hari
Indonesia: 1.623.000 barrel/hari
Total kendaraan:
Malaysia 33juta kendaraan
Indonesia 135juta kendaraan

subsidi: 2-2nya mirip2
malaysia 90an tirliun Indonesia 80an triliun
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Salvanost wrote:mau bikin trit baru cuma males bahasnya, saya posting disini aja...

produksi minyak
Malaysia :760.000 barrel/hari
Indonesia : 945.000 barrel /hari
konsumsi minyak:
Malaysia: 700.000 barrel/hari
Indonesia: 1.623.000 barrel/hari
Total kendaraan:
Malaysia 33juta kendaraan
Indonesia 135juta kendaraan

subsidi: 2-2nya mirip2
malaysia 90an tirliun Indonesia 80an triliun
brarti pemerintah malay subsidi nya banyak banget kah?

stau saya bensin subsidi disono ron95 ya
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ctopher7 wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 14:50
Salvanost wrote:mau bikin trit baru cuma males bahasnya, saya posting disini aja...

produksi minyak
Malaysia :760.000 barrel/hari
Indonesia : 945.000 barrel /hari
konsumsi minyak:
Malaysia: 700.000 barrel/hari
Indonesia: 1.623.000 barrel/hari
Total kendaraan:
Malaysia 33juta kendaraan
Indonesia 135juta kendaraan

subsidi: 2-2nya mirip2
malaysia 90an tirliun Indonesia 80an triliun
brarti pemerintah malay subsidi nya banyak banget kah?

stau saya bensin subsidi disono ron95 ya
Bisa dibilang banyak emang
Kalau Indonesia mau ikutin mungkin perlu 5x lipat subsidi Malaysia

Karena 45% minyak Indonesia import yg akibatnya biaya lebih tinggi
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Salvanost wrote:
ctopher7 wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 14:50
Salvanost wrote:mau bikin trit baru cuma males bahasnya, saya posting disini aja...

produksi minyak
Malaysia :760.000 barrel/hari
Indonesia : 945.000 barrel /hari
konsumsi minyak:
Malaysia: 700.000 barrel/hari
Indonesia: 1.623.000 barrel/hari
Total kendaraan:
Malaysia 33juta kendaraan
Indonesia 135juta kendaraan

subsidi: 2-2nya mirip2
malaysia 90an tirliun Indonesia 80an triliun
brarti pemerintah malay subsidi nya banyak banget kah?

stau saya bensin subsidi disono ron95 ya
Bisa dibilang banyak emang
Kalau Indonesia mau ikutin mungkin perlu 5x lipat subsidi Malaysia

Karena 45% minyak Indonesia import yg akibatnya biaya lebih tinggi
saya baru liat, disono ron95 cmn 2 ringgit, lebih murah dari talit wkwkwk
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Image

Sri Lanka ngapain rusuh...
Iya negaranya emang miskin sumber daya alam
100% gandum diimport
Padahal orang2 sana makan roti setiap hari

Tapi ini harga gandum udah turun...
Kalau cuma sekedar demo biasa aturan udah ngelihat harga roti turun...
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Salvanost wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:01 Image

Sri Lanka ngapain rusuh...
Iya negaranya emang miskin sumber daya alam
100% gandum diimport
Padahal orang2 sana makan roti setiap hari

Tapi ini harga gandum udah turun...
Kalau cuma sekedar demo biasa aturan udah ngelihat harga roti turun...
Pemerintahnya bangkrut yah, sampai gak bisa beli bensin. Orang disana jadi gak bisa ngapa2in karena gak ada bensin.