[Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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Re: [Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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Wait..wait...kijang hybrid? Berarti pake CVT dong...oh noooo...
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ac235287 wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 0:33 Wait..wait...kijang hybrid? Berarti pake CVT dong...oh noooo...
Hybrid ini buat efisiensi
Klo digeber malah borosss. :upss:
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Venturtle wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:38 andaikan next gen Innova uda ga pakai mesin diesel lagi, apakah resale value Innova sekarang (ANKI) bakal turun, tetap atau malah naik? :big_think:
kalo melihat populasinya yg banyak, even 10th setelah discontinue keknya tetep nahan sih om. setelah itu gak tau, tergantung ketersediaan spare part dan harga biosolar aja. just my 2 cents :big_peace:
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Re: [Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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Wah…Alamat harga reborn 2Gd saiah naik lg nih….
Semogaaa.. :big_blushing:
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Re: [Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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Iutama wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:30
journeytohell wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:20 Boleh tahu om dapet Toyota mana unit venturernya? Om pesen venturer matic diesel jg ya? Warna apa om? Sy nyari venturer diesel hitam matic syulittt
Saya dapat di T***s Pecenongan om. Yes, venturer matic diesel warna silver.
Tks om infonya.. saya coba tanya jg deh kesana..
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Re: [Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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ChZ wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 17:29 ya, tapi masalahnya selama bukan pure BEV, battery longevity itu masih tanda tanya gede.

kalau lihat design nya sih sistem air cooled gini ya kalo ketemu macetnya jakarta gak akan ngefek terlalu banyak. belom siklus charge/discharge krn batre hybrid itu kecil banget.

masalahnya kita ngga bisa dan ngga mungkin, males juga juga ngatur charge/discharge secara manual. PHEV mungkin bisa, tapi siapa yang mau manual kalo sudah diberi sistem otomatis?

kedua nah sbrp paham teknisi toyota astra tentang perawatan ini mengingat di tahun 2022 aja masih pada salah masukin ATF ke mobil CVT...

kalau cap L gawsa ditanya lah standarnya beda.

Well ttg baterai longevity, semua balik lagi ke bagaimana maintenancenya terutama ventilasi pendingin baterai hybrid nya kalau bisa jangan clogged (tersumbat) biar awet bisa jaga temperatur nya biar gak overheat terus premature umurnya.

Walaupun cooling hybrid battery nya pake air cooled tapi kan pakai sirkulasi udara dalam kabin, dan biasa di negara tropis juga user nya set interior ambient temp nya biar jadi dingin, otomatis udara yang kesedot buat dingin baterai nya juga udara dingin.

Buat charge/discharge hybrid battery sepertinya sama insinyur yang ngerancang nya udah di atur biar efisien kapan harus pake motor listrik only / kapan pake kombinasi motor listrik sama ICE (Internal Combustion) nya / kapan pake ICE saja sambil nge-charge battery nya. Kayaknya malah kalau manual ngatur charge/discharge nya yang ada malah tidak se-efisien pengaturan default rancangan insinyur nya :big_slap:

Kalau tentang SDM teknisi beres toyota no comment.
Tapi seharusnya kalau TAM makin gencar pasarin kendaraan elektrifikasi hybrid mestinya dari sumber SDM aftersales nya juga gencar ditingkatin knowledge ttg maintenance kendaraan hybrid nya.

Cap L beda standard di kualitas exterior, interior, NVH comfort and omotenashi aftersales service nya dibanding cap T tiga oval - yes bener.
Tapi urusan technology powertrain nya masih sama semua. Kecuali di model-model skunkworks cap L macam el fe ah (LFA) dan yang pake 2UR-GSE (IS F, GS F, RC F, LC 500, IS 500).
ac235287 wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 0:33 Wait..wait...kijang hybrid? Berarti pake CVT dong...oh noooo...

Banyak orang salah kaprah tentang CVT di hybrid toyota (well termasuk ane sendiri dulunya :big_blushing: :big_peace: )
Jadi sebenernya CVT di hybrid toyota itu Continuously Variable nya antara kerjanya power split device, Generator sama Motor listrik nya.
Bukan seperti CVT di mobil biasa yang berubah-rubah ratio pulley nya :big_biglaugh:
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Re: [Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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ac235287 wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 0:33 Wait..wait...kijang hybrid? Berarti pake CVT dong...oh noooo...
CVT nya beda um, dia utk gigi 1 pke gear, baru gigi seterusnya pke pulley

harusnya kuat nanjak sehhh
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arfs wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 15:36
Banyak orang salah kaprah tentang CVT di hybrid toyota (well termasuk ane sendiri dulunya :big_blushing: :big_peace: )
Jadi sebenernya CVT di hybrid toyota itu Continuously Variable nya antara kerjanya power split device, Generator sama Motor listrik nya.
Bukan seperti CVT di mobil biasa yang berubah-rubah ratio pulley nya :big_biglaugh:
yg bikin oe takjub sampe skrg itu girbok multi-stage hybridnya

gabungin 4AT + 6CVT

biar apa coba, tapi yah kapan lagi toyota pamer skill :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:29
arfs wrote: Mon Sep 12, 2022 15:36
Banyak orang salah kaprah tentang CVT di hybrid toyota (well termasuk ane sendiri dulunya :big_blushing: :big_peace: )
Jadi sebenernya CVT di hybrid toyota itu Continuously Variable nya antara kerjanya power split device, Generator sama Motor listrik nya.
Bukan seperti CVT di mobil biasa yang berubah-rubah ratio pulley nya :big_biglaugh:
yg bikin oe takjub sampe skrg itu girbok multi-stage hybridnya

gabungin 4AT + 6CVT

biar apa coba, tapi yah kapan lagi toyota pamer skill :big_biglaugh:
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sehebat2xnya batre tetep aja kalah sama usia gak kek komponen mesin dan gearbox semua tergantung perawatan dan pemakaian mau 20th tapi maintenace bagus atau jarang di pakai juga resiko rusaknya sangat minim, batre pake gak di pake 10-20thn pasti jebol kebukti banyak tesla taon muda kilometer gondrong batre baek2x aja tapi tesla taon tua low km malah jebol batrenya ya jadi pake batre itu kejar setoran kalo emang mobilitasnya gila2xan pakailah mobil berbatre akan balik modal cuma kalo modelan makenya 5th cuma dapet 100.000km jauh2x lah sama mobil berbatre :big_bored:
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Iutama wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:30
journeytohell wrote: Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:20 Boleh tahu om dapet Toyota mana unit venturernya? Om pesen venturer matic diesel jg ya? Warna apa om? Sy nyari venturer diesel hitam matic syulittt
Saya dapat di T***s Pecenongan om. Yes, venturer matic diesel warna silver.
Tks om Iutama.. berkat om ane jd dapet unitnya di T***s Pecenongan... mantap om infonya..
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Re: [Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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penasaran dengan layout interior next gen Innova.. apakah masih mempertahankan kepraktisan ruang penyimpanan yg berlimpah dalam kabin atau malah lebih baik? :mky_02:
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Re: [Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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b0ku wrote:sehebat2xnya batre tetep aja kalah sama usia gak kek komponen mesin dan gearbox semua tergantung perawatan dan pemakaian mau 20th tapi maintenace bagus atau jarang di pakai juga resiko rusaknya sangat minim, batre pake gak di pake 10-20thn pasti jebol kebukti banyak tesla taon muda kilometer gondrong batre baek2x aja tapi tesla taon tua low km malah jebol batrenya ya jadi pake batre itu kejar setoran kalo emang mobilitasnya gila2xan pakailah mobil berbatre akan balik modal cuma kalo modelan makenya 5th cuma dapet 100.000km jauh2x lah sama mobil berbatre :big_bored:
Setujuh gan, kalau pake teknologi mahal buat kejer irit ya harus tinggi pemakaiannya baru dapat hematnya.

Mobil sgt jarang dipakai pun malah rusak sendiri
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Re: [Spy Shot] All New Toyota Innova 2022, FWD + Hybrid?

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Release hari ini Ankiz Hv sebaiknya ambil Hybrid atau gasoline ??

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