Ranking Dan Pemilihan Oli Mesin - PART 16

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sahabatq8 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:33
Suryaputra wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:31 Mbah sobatq8

Ini gmn?
Kenal sm sellernya?

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Gak tau itu siapa.
Q8 yang 10w-40 itu semi atau full syn? Bisa buat berapa km? Next mau coba nih, kemarin abis mudik baru ganti fastron ijo, duit abis dikampung ganti baterai hehe...
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t105erd wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 11:40
Q8 yang 10w-40 itu semi atau full syn? Bisa buat berapa km? Next mau coba nih, kemarin abis mudik baru ganti fastron ijo, duit abis dikampung ganti baterai hehe...
Semi syn, rekomendasi kalo mau enak 8000/9bulan aja. Tapi 10rb/1 tahun bisa. Kalo si Advanced Plus kualitasnya udah kyk fully syn, meet MB229.3.
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sahabatq8 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:33
Suryaputra wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:31 Mbah sobatq8

Ini gmn?
Kenal sm sellernya?

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Gak tau itu siapa.
Om punten mau nanya, kalo oli dari luar itu, masuknya apa lewat satu pintu? Misalnya om kan OS nya Q8 oil dimari. Apa masuk hanya lewat om saja? :big_think:
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yanuarra wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 12:00
sahabatq8 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:33
Suryaputra wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:31 Mbah sobatq8

Ini gmn?
Kenal sm sellernya?

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Gak tau itu siapa.
Om punten mau nanya, kalo oli dari luar itu, masuknya apa lewat satu pintu? Misalnya om kan OS nya Q8 oil dimari. Apa masuk hanya lewat om saja? :big_think:
Tergantung om, policy sama si principalnya kyk gimana. Kalo tempat saya kerja importir/distributor tunggal untuk produk Q8 Oils Automotive di Indonesia.
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sahabatq8 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 12:05
yanuarra wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 12:00
sahabatq8 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:33
Gak tau itu siapa.
Om punten mau nanya, kalo oli dari luar itu, masuknya apa lewat satu pintu? Misalnya om kan OS nya Q8 oil dimari. Apa masuk hanya lewat om saja? :big_think:
Tergantung om, policy sama si principalnya kyk gimana. Kalo tempat saya kerja importir/distributor tunggal untuk produk Q8 Oils Automotive di Indonesia.
Nah.. brti yg lain reseller yah?
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yanuarra wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 12:10
sahabatq8 wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 12:05
yanuarra wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 12:00

Om punten mau nanya, kalo oli dari luar itu, masuknya apa lewat satu pintu? Misalnya om kan OS nya Q8 oil dimari. Apa masuk hanya lewat om saja? :big_think:
Tergantung om, policy sama si principalnya kyk gimana. Kalo tempat saya kerja importir/distributor tunggal untuk produk Q8 Oils Automotive di Indonesia.
Nah.. brti yg lain reseller yah?
Betul, ujung-ujungnya ya barangnya dari kita juga. Kalo gak ambil dari kita langsung, bisa juga dari reseller kita.
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Suryaputra wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 14:24

Tim teng base oilnya udah enak.
Ibarat raw beans udh grade A
Jadi mau dibikin medium roast atau dark roast aromanya jg enak :big_biglaugh:

:ngacir:
:big_think:

agans ky teman ane nih yang punya bengkel jual oli dr tim teng,

ktnya olinya yg dijual paling bagus krn merk dr tim teng,


ane baru beli oli merk dhaihatsu buat di mobil eropa nih,

itu bahannya drmn tuh,lokalan kynya nih,

salah tengg teau nih,amcionk


hadeuohhhhh
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vanosz wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 22:57
Suryaputra wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 14:24

Tim teng base oilnya udah enak.
Ibarat raw beans udh grade A
Jadi mau dibikin medium roast atau dark roast aromanya jg enak :big_biglaugh:

:ngacir:
:big_think:

agans ky teman ane nih yang punya bengkel jual oli dr tim teng,

ktnya olinya yg dijual paling bagus krn merk dr tim teng,


ane baru beli oli merk dhaihatsu buat di mobil eropa nih,

itu bahannya drmn tuh,lokalan kynya nih,

salah tengg teau nih,amcionk


hadeuohhhhh
Klo gak salah, daihatsu oil Made by pertamina mbah.
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vanosz wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 22:57
Suryaputra wrote: Tue May 24, 2022 14:24

Tim teng base oilnya udah enak.
Ibarat raw beans udh grade A
Jadi mau dibikin medium roast atau dark roast aromanya jg enak :big_biglaugh:

:ngacir:
:big_think:

agans ky teman ane nih yang punya bengkel jual oli dr tim teng,

ktnya olinya yg dijual paling bagus krn merk dr tim teng,


ane baru beli oli merk dhaihatsu buat di mobil eropa nih,

itu bahannya drmn tuh,lokalan kynya nih,

salah tengg teau nih,amcionk


hadeuohhhhh
Beneran gan itu oli Daihatsu buat mobil eropa? bagus yah oli daihatsu ini, kalo saya lihat sih harganya murih sekali, 5w30 cuma 60rb an seliter, mantul banget. Cocok buat kaum BPJS kaya saya nih hehe...
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Suryaputra wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 15:15
well wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 15:00
Turboman wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 7:30 Full syn

yg 100% Synth itu yg T 8800 / T8900
Mohon koreksi om, setahu sy kalau tulisan syntetic itu biasanya semi sintetis.
Bedanya full sintetis dgn 100% apa om? Apkh 100% syntetis lbh bagus dibanding fully syntetis?
100% synthetic > full syn > semi syn > mineral

Kualitasnya bagus mana?
Ya tergantung kualitas base oil, dan komposisi aditifnya.

Rumit, intinya mah beli sesuai budget aja dan pastikan asli dan ganti interval sesuai kemampuan oli tsb :big_grin:
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https://fortunly.com/articles/top-oil-p ... ries/#gref

Top 10 Oil reserves (how much oil left?)
Venezuela punya cadangan oil tertinggi, kedua saudi arabia, dsb.. paling bontot amrik urutan 10.

What is the best quality oil?
The best crude oil is found in Malaysia, but there’s not much of it. When it comes to the top oil producing countries, Saudi Arabia is known for offering the best quality of crude oil.

bacaan bagus :big_exellent:
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Suryaputra wrote:https://fortunly.com/articles/top-oil-p ... ries/#gref

Top 10 Oil reserves (how much oil left?)
Venezuela punya cadangan oil tertinggi, kedua saudi arabia, dsb.. paling bontot amrik urutan 10.

What is the best quality oil?
The best crude oil is found in Malaysia, but there’s not much of it. When it comes to the top oil producing countries, Saudi Arabia is known for offering the best quality of crude oil.

bacaan bagus :big_exellent:
Setahu saya any kind of Sour Crude - High Sulphur cocok diolah sebagai Base Oil

Tapi ingat komponen biaya yg juga besar di pelumas adalah = Additip Package nya

Lalu kalo di negara2 yg terapin Carbon Neutal spt Eropa, banyak menggunakan bahan2 baku dari hasil daur ulang ketimbang virgin material

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Turboman wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 5:32
Suryaputra wrote:https://fortunly.com/articles/top-oil-p ... ries/#gref

Top 10 Oil reserves (how much oil left?)
Venezuela punya cadangan oil tertinggi, kedua saudi arabia, dsb.. paling bontot amrik urutan 10.

What is the best quality oil?
The best crude oil is found in Malaysia, but there’s not much of it. When it comes to the top oil producing countries, Saudi Arabia is known for offering the best quality of crude oil.

bacaan bagus :big_exellent:
Setahu saya any kind of Sour Crude - High Sulphur cocok diolah sebagai Base Oil

Tapi ingat komponen biaya yg juga besar di pelumas adalah = Additip Package nya

Lalu kalo di negara2 yg terapin Carbon Neutal spt Eropa, banyak menggunakan bahan2 baku dari hasil daur ulang ketimbang virgin material

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Oli kerehore aja buat si T32.

Mesin kuno aja ngapain dikasi oli mehong2, yg penting dompet susah nekuknya.

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sintoni wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 6:59 Oli kerehore aja buat si T32.

Mesin kuno aja ngapain dikasi oli mehong2, yg penting dompet susah nekuknya.

:ngacir:

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sintoni wrote:Oli kerehore aja buat si T32.

Mesin kuno aja ngapain dikasi oli mehong2, yg penting dompet susah nekuknya.

:ngacir:

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Oli Kerehore + sedikit HSS FR3 / Mannol Ester (tuang di KM 3000)

oli bisa alusss terus sampe 5000 - 6000 km

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Turboman wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 7:38
sintoni wrote:Oli kerehore aja buat si T32.

Mesin kuno aja ngapain dikasi oli mehong2, yg penting dompet susah nekuknya.

:ngacir:

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Oli Kerehore + sedikit HSS FR3 / Mannol Ester (tuang di KM 3000)

oli bisa alusss terus sampe 5000 - 6000 km

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mbah nanya;
klo oli ekonomis dituang HSS FR3 ini apakah membuat V100 tetap stabil di rentang yg visco yg sama?
by lab measurement.

Contoh: oli eco w20, gak akan turun ke rentang W16.
karena biasanya klo lihat hasil UOA, oli2 mainstream W20 dipakai lebih 3rb km; V100 nya udah mulai drop menuju W16 :ungg:
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Suryaputra wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 8:09
Contoh: oli eco w20, gak akan turun ke rentang W16.
karena biasanya klo lihat hasil UOA, oli2 mainstream W20 dipakai lebih 3rb km; V100 nya udah mulai drop menuju W16 :ungg:
Nyimak om, oli2 kerehore rasa2nya emang cepet breakdown VII nya. Dipake geber geber bentar kerasa ga enaknya.

Kalo logika bodoh saya sih....ester kan sifatnya bagus di lubricity, oxidation kayanya cenderung lemah dibanding base mineral....mungkin ga ngaruh di seberapa robust visc nya
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sintoni wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 6:59 Oli kerehore aja buat si T32.

Mesin kuno aja ngapain dikasi oli mehong2, yg penting dompet susah nekuknya.

:ngacir:

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wahh satu aliran kita mbah

kita orang jg lg pake tu merek ud beberapa kl, puas banget utk ukuran kelas kerehore, glitik minim, busa minim, suara jg ga tralu brizik

oke lah utk klaas nya
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote:
sintoni wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 6:59 Oli kerehore aja buat si T32.

Mesin kuno aja ngapain dikasi oli mehong2, yg penting dompet susah nekuknya.

:ngacir:

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wahh satu aliran kita mbah

kita orang jg lg pake tu merek ud beberapa kl, puas banget utk ukuran kelas kerehore, glitik minim, busa minim, suara jg ga tralu brizik

oke lah utk klaas nya
mantep banget nih cuman 67 rebu perliter cek di tokoijo. bisa buat 5000 km mah lumayan lah. di mesin turbo aman juga ga yah?
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DOHC wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:25 wahh satu aliran kita mbah

kita orang jg lg pake tu merek ud beberapa kl, puas banget utk ukuran kelas kerehore, glitik minim, busa minim, suara jg ga tralu brizik

oke lah utk klaas nya
Wih mantep lah tesi mbah Klep.

Ane beli jg karena testi mbah Josomba jg.
ctopher7 wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:59 mantep banget nih cuman 67 rebu perliter cek di tokoijo. bisa buat 5000 km mah lumayan lah. di mesin turbo aman juga ga yah?
Kalau beli galonan lebih murah lg om.

Harusnya oke sih untuk mesin Turbo, secara udah SN+ anti LSPI jg klaimnya.
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DOHC wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 11:25
wahh satu aliran kita mbah

kita orang jg lg pake tu merek ud beberapa kl, puas banget utk ukuran kelas kerehore, glitik minim, busa minim, suara jg ga tralu brizik

oke lah utk klaas nya
:big_biglaugh:

Initial feel ni oli emang enak sehh, mengingatkan owe pada kendall 0w20.
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tp si asinan malah kita orang ga brani pake di 1KR non vvti (ehh ini jg berlaku di oli2 kelas eco yg kekentelan 0-20 seh)

suara piston slap nya malah menjadi2 pas cold start

tp kl di inofa dan hrv sehh, mantap jiwa.. mura meria kualitas ok tanpa harus sobek dompet
numpang lewat aja.... :ngacir: :ngacir:
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DOHC wrote: Fri May 27, 2022 13:37 tp si asinan malah kita orang ga brani pake di 1KR non vvti (ehh ini jg berlaku di oli2 kelas eco yg kekentelan 0-20 seh)

suara piston slap nya malah menjadi2 pas cold start

tp kl di inofa dan hrv sehh, mantap jiwa.. mura meria kualitas ok tanpa harus sobek dompet
Sama Eneos andalan ente jaman dulu mending mana mbah?