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yang jelas sih enak Sirion nya.. mau lebih enak lagi? swift or yaris..
klo hijet, carry, zebra, futura, jet star or apalah yang jenis pick-up or minibus RWD semua masing2 harus pindah posisi handbrake, Pasang LSD, Locker gardan ato di las as rodanya jadi satu.. sma satu lagi.. mesin.. kompresi biasanya harus tinggi.. klo ga gitu,ga bisa enak kaya gini drift nya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVcMhbvfSXQ

of pivot pake FWD? sebenarnya gampang.. biasanya tarik handrem lebih dari 1x(klo muter penuh 360 derajat..) klo pivot contohnya kayak gini...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYbYtiE0_m4
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yup...itu maksud gw bro.... gw koq masih lbh berasa asik ngelihat si Zebra drpd si Sirion, di video itu.
apalagi ttg pivot,....Sirion....nggak sampai 360deg aja, dah terlihat "kewalahan"....
istilah gw, gerakannya patah2: menjadi nampak seperti digital, bukan analog.
gw jadi ingin melihat yg bisa pivot sekian kali 360derajat.
krn dlm bayangan gue, pivot hampir gak mgkin dilakukan dg FWD.....
pivot loh ya...bukan cuma "berkeliling", spt si Sirion dlm video itu.

karena dalam konsep gue:
FWD tuh slalomnya memanfaatkan energi kelembaman, jadi bukan memanfaatkan daya mesin, secara langsung.
daya mesin diperlukan (hanya) utk "menciptakan" kelembaman....nah barulah setelah itu, kelembaman inilah yg bisa kita konversi menjadi drift.
karena itulah driftnya gak akan bisa maksimal, krn kelembaman itu gak akan cukup mampu utk "mengalahkan" grip-nya ban belakang.
ini mungkin bisa disiasati dg cara: pasang ban belakang yg udah gundul abies... tp jgn malah yg slick loh...heheh.

sedangkan kalau RWD: konversi menjadi drift-nya itu, langsung tercipta dari tenaga mesin....
berarti, tanpa melewati fase: menciptakan kelembaman lbh dahulu.
tenaga mesin ini, sudah cukup utk "mengalahkan" grip ban belakang.. sehingga berbuah spin.. lalu bisa kita "larikan" sesuai kehendak kita.

atau sebenarnya lbh tepatnya gini: kelembaman hanya berperan utk melakukan "buangan" awal dikiiit aja..
tp itu lsg disambut, dg spinning yg tercipta berkat tenaga mesin yg mengalahkan grip ban....
nah, hal inilah yg membuatnya menjadi bisa kontinyu...tidak patah2.

nah, krn 2 konsep yg hampir berkebalikan itulah, maka itu membuat keduanya menghasilkan "tampilan" yg jauh berbeda pula.
tapi, iya seeh, kalau kita kembalikan ke pertanyaan awal gue, maka memang RWD perlu sedikit dimodif dulu, sblm enak utk diajak "buang pantat".. :mrgreen:

tp kalau utk slalom sederhana sih, modifnya kan bisa kecil2an aja... katakanlah kita gak punya limited slip dif maupun locker.
maka, tinggal kita tutup aja pipa hidrolik ke rem blkg....dah gitu lansgung tancap deh.
nah, kalau dg cara ini, yg kita maenin bukan si handbrake, tp injek rem, yg berarti me-lock hanya roda depan
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tutup hidraulik ban belakang?
hm.. susah juga sih.. tapi kayaknya apa peraturan dari PP IMI yang ngelarang ngutak-atik bagian rem(handbrake ga boleh diganti.. boleh sih cuma tuasnya aja.. sistemnya ga boleh dirubah dari tromol ke cakram)
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oh... yg ada di kepala gw ini, bukan yg kelas PP IMI bro.... :e-pray:
tapi yg kelas jl. diponegoro...antara gedung sate sampe RRI..... dulunya tempat pak dosennya sering turun tuuuh..... heuheheheh...
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o...
ha3x..
klo yang beginian sih tanya aja sama senseinya...
Bro poeticmind..
tapi kok ga keluar2 ya..
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ah, nampaknya, mengharapkannya keluar, ibarat berharap ada petir menyambar di siang bolong....... huehehehe..
traumanya belum ilang kali, bro..... :drinking:
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yg itu, ditengokin,...
tp yg ini, nggak ditengokin juga??

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ha3x..teganya dirimu.. teganya, teganya.. :D
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Klo Slalom kenapa ya sedan ga terlalu unggul?
Apa karena rigid? Ga selentur yaris,jazz,swift dll?
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lebih karena radius putar sedan (&jg mobil2 panjang lain semacam MPV) yg besar yg merugikan dalam slalom.
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sedikit laporan di djarum black night slalom seri 8 sby..
ada beberapa mobil yang ga biasa tampil di ajang kerjunas tampil kemarin tgl 29.. di antaranya Daihatsu GrandMax(minibus), Daihatsu Terios, Nissan X-Trail dan Jeep Cherokee..
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NYoman wrote:sedikit laporan di djarum black night slalom seri 8 sby..
ada beberapa mobil yang ga biasa tampil di ajang kerjunas tampil kemarin tgl 29.. di antaranya Daihatsu GrandMax(minibus), Daihatsu Terios, Nissan X-Trail dan Jeep Cherokee..
Bos liat starlet yang nabrak pintu finish ga?warna biru pelek putih?

yoi bro cherokee pun unjuk gigi,yang xtrail cupu banget tuh,.
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^
oh pas kelas F.. klo ga salah sudah akhir2 heat 1...

klo starlet yang paling keren kemarin yang warna abu2... hebat bgt..

cheroke dapet tempat no 3 di kelas C(jeep) (Gatot IS)
btw terios sm grandmax dapet posisi berapa tuh.. kemarin saya pulangnya jm 10 an soalnya..
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temen ane bro nyoman yang nabrak itu,.geblek emang dia,.
Dah gtu nyalahin moilnya yang ga enak lagee,.capee deh,.

wah klo teriosh dkk ane juga ga tau,.Yang Yaris TTI nya Sanger keren tuh,.
Trus corolla DXnya juga asyik,.
Ente naek boil apa bro? stay di surabaya nie?
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klo stay iya bos..
boil yang ga enk?
kyknya itu boil bae2 aj kq..
klo saya pake dxgtdohc ama pikap t120item..
sayanggnya dua mobil ini ga bisa turun..
yang dx koilnya jebol, trus yang t120 lg porting polish di jkt..
yah tahun ini saya ga ikut satupun kejurnas..
yang ikt teman saya dia pake pikap zebra warna biru putih ama dx warna biru putih..
hebat tuh anknya..
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wah kapan2 kopi darat ya om,.
Apalagi saya kan cupu banget di kayak ginian,sapa tau aja klo om mau latian bisa ajak2,.
Saya pengen belajar om,.

Iyah tuh temen ane agak manja,.maunya mobil enak terus,.
kemaren sirion ikutan ga om?
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kopdar?
kapan2 deh bro..
btw klo mo lihat orang2 latihan slalom(bukan saya tapi) di dekat menara SCTV... di situ orang2 pada latihan slalom hari minggu sore..

sirion?
sirion smart slalom?
sya sih ikutan yang wktu itu..
tapi sedikit ga niat waktu balapannya.. padahal mobilnya enak bgt..
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Sirion saya ikut juga bro,.start no 41 klo ga salah,.sory agak2 lupa,.kelas mahasiswa pemula tapi,.klo bro nyoman kan seeded hehe
Iya saya pernah latian di sctv 1 hari sebelum final di depan balai kota,.Aspalnya kurang memuaskan tapi,.
Klo dikenjeran pernah tapi diusir soalnya ga ijin hehe
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Klo sirion sy no 6..
Start depan..
Pljr pemula..krn qualifikasiny g niat..
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lha om nyoman nih masih pelajar ato dah bapak2 toh? hehe ok masuk kelas pelajar pemula? kan harusnya harus pake Kartu pelajar buat masuk kelas itu,.
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ya iya bro..
saya pake kartu pelajar..
sya kan masih kls 2 sma gt...
bnyk peslalom umur segitu..
bikin KIS dari kelas 3 smp.. tapi pake surat keterangan dari orang tua buat bikinnya.. jadi ga pake sim.. he3x..
jd jgn d pnggl om donk,,.,.,. he3x...
btw saya naik podium baru sekali lho.... jd blm seeded..
klo seeded ya kyk bro poeticmind.. dia udah banyak makan asam garam di slalom..
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SMAnya disurabaya? Jangan2 anak SMA 2 SBY yang masuk kelas pro nih,.hehe
kenalin gue Indra,.Kuliah di mesin ITS,.
Temen2 ane juga sering slalom,.Kali aj bisa share,.
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wah.. bkn bro..
bkn kumpulannya mas toni utomo yang ud pada pro itu..
saya Ank trimurti sby...
dibilang pro sih bukan..
sedengan deh.. he3x..

wah mas indra ank its ya...
T.mesin lg.. bisa modif mesin ndiri tuh... he3x..
iya bro.. entar kt bisa share macem2...
klo saya ada waktu nanti bisa latihan bareng or apa gt..

ga ada niat ikt black night bro?
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ga lah bro,.Klo pengerjaan mobil saya tetep ke bengkel laen,.Anak2 kuliah meski teknik mesin belum tentu pinter oprek om nyoman,.kita kan belajar teori dari buku2 dan yang dipelajari adalah how to design,calculate,analysis. not how to upgrade or how to modif hehehe

Ya memang ada bengkel yang didirikan anak2 seh tapi baru menguasai motor yang dah oprek sampe drag race,.Klo mobil ya sebatas kita tahu langkah2 tune up standart bengkel2 laen lah,.
Kita juga sering bikin rally tapi bukan rally kayak WRC atau APRC loh,.ya rally city gtu deh,.
Rencana seh maret 2009 mgkn diadain rallynya,.Ada rencana bikin slalom tapi belum dapet ijin ma IMI,.

Klo modif baru sebatas pasang strutbar starlet GT ke soluna dan rencana mau masang header 4-1,.Ga ada dana seh hehe,.Udah gtu KIS saya hilang lagi,.hiks2x,.
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tapi lumayan bro, teknik mesin klo berprestasi bisa langsung dapet kerjaan.. tuh om saya juga alumni sana.. belum lulus ud di rekrut ahm..

kis hilang..
wah eman tuh.. lumayan kan kmrn cm byr 100rb, tp bisa balapan, dapet kaos dapet kta/kis..
padahal klo bikin aja bisa habis 150rb sendiri..
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