Problem SX4

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Re: Problem SX4

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nah iya, makanya maksudnya yg ngelock di atas itu berarti kan ganjil.
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Re: Problem SX4

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Btw, kalo mo coba ABS,
coba di jalan raya yg kosong,
jalan kira2 60 kmh, trus rem injek abis jgn ragu2.
Pas ABS berfungsi, pasti kerasa geter di pedal rem.
Perlu diinget, pake ABS itu bukan brarti kl ngerem ngedadak,
trus ban kita ga bakal selip atau nyekit.
ABS itu cuman MEMINIMALISIR selipnya ban.
Jadi ga perlu heran kl misalnya ABS berfunngsi tp ban tetep nyekit.

Ok, lanjut dong review SX4-nya ke topik laen ;)
Jangan terlalu lama parno di ABS ah..
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Re: Problem SX4

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modern ABS sebenarnya yah eliminate (sampai nyaris tidak ada) roda locking saat rem, krn rotasi roda controlled by ecu continuously saat brake-on mode.
test2 di video magazine juga nyaris tidak ada locking utk ABS kl kondisi rem mendadak/panic, juga jalan basah (low-traction surface), mknya tidak melulu decrease braking distance.
btw, bukannya ini topic problem sx4 ya.. :roll:
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Re: Problem SX4

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GTR wrote:ABS sebenarnya yah eliminate (sampai nyaris tidak ada) roda locking saat rem.
test2 di video magazine juga nyaris tidak ada locking kl kondisi rem mendadak, juga jalan basah.
btw, bukannya ini topic problem sx4 ya.. :roll:
Pengalaman gw sih, bbrp kali ngerem ngdadak di kec 120 kmh - 150 kmh
(selalu gara2 truck di tol motong jalur kanan seenaknya)
ABS berfungsi, tp tetep ban sih nyekit juga.
Cuman bedanya kalo ga pake ABS, gw pasti udh selip kmana2 & ancur nabrak.
Jadi intinya ABS did saved my life ;)
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Re: Problem SX4

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yup, kl tanpa ABS, bisa2 locking dini contonuosly dan mobil bergerak ke arah yg tanpa bisa dikontrol/intervensi driver.
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Re: Problem SX4

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@GTR: nah, kalau EBD buat apa bang? khan udah ga locking..
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Re: Problem SX4

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isunya sih bisa distribusi brake bias on-demand, depan - belakang.
kalo yg udah ada ESP/VSC/ASC modern, EBD bisa intervensi on each wheel kayanya.
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Re: Problem SX4

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jd, biar tetep stabil and ga ngebuang waktu sudden braking?
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Re: Problem SX4

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biasanya biar roda belakang juga ditambah porsi rem nya kalo beban penuh.
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Re: Problem SX4

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Yoi, betul kata Oom GTR.
EBD gunanya utk ngatur prilaku kerja ABS di tiap rem/ban.
Khan kondisi tekanan di tiap ban beda2.
Ga bisa semuanya dikasih perlakuan ABS yg sama ;)
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Re: Problem SX4

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hmm.. bukannya kalau yg seperti itu bagiannya load sensor yah?
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iya kalo beban ringan(kosong).
biasanya biar roda belakang juga ditambah porsi rem nya kalo beban penuh.
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Re: Problem SX4

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apa load sensor ini tersedia di semua tipe mobil? atau hanya di mobil2 semi truck seperti double cabin?
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yg three channel ABS atau yg dgn EBD(biasanya +BA) harusnya udah ada load sensor mirip LSPV (load safe proporting valve, minus ABS) pada minibus2 dari jaman kijang super.
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Re: Problem SX4

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hmm.. i see.. thx atas penjelasannya.. Image

nah, kalau yg four channel or more gmana bang? penjelasannya..
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Re: Problem SX4

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four channel ABS, differs brake-bias on each wheels than front-rear only.
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Re: Problem SX4

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ooh.. seperti sistem independent gt?

sip2! thx bang! :D
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Ya intinya, ABS tuh tinggal teken aja remnya, ga usah ragu2. Kalo ragu2, malah jadi ngelock. Ga usah kudu pke mikir lah, langsung aja teken abis remnya, biarkan komputer bekerja. OK? Bos abenk, mobilnya ap? SX4 juga apa mobil non ABS? Ya kalo bisa ngomong tentang masalah SX4. Sejauh ini, SX4 gw ga ada masalah, dah 7000kilo lebih...
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Re: Problem SX4

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ABS + EBD + BA, emang bener2 sangat berfungsi u/ memperpendek jarak pengereman dan lebih aman berkendara ... tp tetap lebih aman bila menerapkan safety driving.
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Re: Problem SX4

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manguni wrote:wadaw tadi LED spion gw pecah di serempet motor parah bgt arghhhhh di samping tol kebun jeruk DAMN! !!

sekarang lampunya mati sebelah (pas ujan)

damn damn damn, untung asuransi :P

btw, ada yg tau gak AKI SX4 itu berapa ampere ? soalnya pingin ganti aki kering neh di http://www.akibosch.com
Bro, masih ada sisa ngak LED-nya (sebelah yg tidak ketabrak). Want to buy. :mrgreen:
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Re: Problem SX4

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Bro sekalian mau nanya, rem sx-4 suka bunyi gak? apa karena musim ujan? kata orang bengkel sih karena ke-4 roda nya cakram :e-doh:
ini yang pake tante, tadi ketemu trus di tanyain.. kali aja bro2 bisa sharing.. :thanks:
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Kalo kena hujan, memang discbrake jadi kotor, disebabkan, misalnya, tante bos lewat jalan yang ada genangan air n ada kotoran nyangkut di discbrakenya, jadilah rem bunyi. Itu ga hanya SX4 aja yang begitu. Mobil kelas wahid juga sama bos....
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Re: Problem SX4

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OK Thx Bro..... sebelumnya tante pake escudo 2.0 selama 5th gak pernah bunyi....... :thanks:
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Re: Problem SX4

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Mmmm... Mungkin remnya pernah dibersihkan pihak bengkel, pas tante bos ke BeRes...
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Re: Problem SX4

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gw lempar isyu nih buat sx4 CKD:
katanya suspensi belakang nya lebih keras ya dibanding CBU, jok nya juga gak seempuk CBU? soalnya kemaren ajak temen naik sx4 ane, dia juga punya sx4 tapi ckd, dia bilang koq naikan nya beda banget? dia bilang jok ckd keras banget, yang lebih parah duduk di belakang bikin pusing, akhir nya dia bela2 in coba duduk dibelakang sepanjang perjalanan pulang dr klaten (kira2 20km) dr solo, dan menurut dia, dia lebih nyaman duduk di dalem CBU.....

any comment?