Problem SX4

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loh..? postingan terakhir pada kemana yah..??
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GTR wrote:hmm suzuki salah kaprah yah, awalnya ciptakan "crossover" malah mirip hatchback dgn roda besar saja, & skrg malah keluarkan sedan (says new baleno) yg notabene "crossover diberi bagasi panjang"; ini jadi rancu, sptnya misi produknya ga jelas.
Ground clearance, yg jadi salahsatu point yg diperhitungkan, blm bisa dijadikan fitur kunci; since tanggung sekali hanya 175mm, ini dari GL aja masih kalah, ini juga hanya kontribusi dari ban tebal & velg besar nya sx4; jika tidak, bisa jadi ground clearance nya jadi mendekati swift aja.
buayamankid wrote:sx4 sedan nama nya baleno ya,sx4 mah keren banget,jadi pingin beli nich mobil nya,ga sabar beli tahun depan nich,second aja tapi.
Sebetulnya SX4 ini unggul di negara 4 musim (terutama yang musim dinginnya bersalju) karena merupakan kendaraan All Wheel Drive yang sangat terjangkau. Jadi bukan karena Ground Clearance yang sedikit diatas rata-2 sehingga bisa di jalan rusak / off-road seperti layaknya SUV yang lain... Tapi karena disini hanya 2 musim, fitur AWD nya hilang dan yang diunggulkan Ground Clearance untuk menghadapi jalan di Ina yang jelek.... Dengan spek tanpa AWD sebetulnya SX-4 sudah bukan X-over lagi, tapi hanya hatchback.....
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karna postingan ilang ikut nanya lg deh.. buat bro naldo ataw bro yg lain yg tau info-info mengenai SX4..
ada info mengenai warna SX4 CKD ga? maksudnya gini.. ntar di SX4 versi CKD ada warna tambahan atau warna yg dihilangkan seperti kasus warna putih nya swift CBU yg ga ada di swift CKD..
soalnya lg pilih" warna nih..

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Warna kurang tau d bro. Lagian masih setengah taun lagi baru produksi. Ya nanti kl ada kabar kasi tau lagi d. Yang pasti fitur tetep sama, harga mirip2.
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OK.. thanks bro naldo.. soalnya kmaren marketingnya suzuki NJS bdg bilang klo warna cooper bakal hilang di SX4 CKD.. jadi klo pilih warna cooper khan kesannya ekslusif CBU gitu..

klo ga salah SX4 bro naldo warna cooper ya..? klo ga keberatan bisa upload disini ga foto SX4 cooper-nya.. soalnya blum pernah liat secara langsung & foto2 SX4 warna cooper di web banyak yg ga natural warnanya ( hasil editan )..

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Ga jadi beli bro. Ga ada harga khusus, so ga beli. Dah gak tertarik, jadi pke aja yang punya kantor bokap. Gw mau cari mobil laen, mobil kecil, murah, kenceng, irit, yang pasti mesinnya harus direct fuel injection. Baru menarik perhatian saya. Pasti pada tau lah mobil idaman ini apaan. Bila mau liat warna copper, bisa liat di suzuki global, america or japan. Thanks
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hehe.. oke deh, thanks yah..
btw mobil apaan tuh..? :e-dance:
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Cherry QQ! :P Kan produk Indomobil juga tuh :D Jangan beda sendiri mobilnya ama keluarga ya gak bos... (pede banget, keluarganya pake Alphard kita juga gak tau).
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Cherry QQ, pasang turbo!!! he3...
Jazz 2nd gan aja deh, pas.
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Bro Naldo setau saya mobil yang direct fuel injection di Indonesia yang beredar baru kepunyaan AUDI dengan FSInya, kalo mitsubishi ada dengan GDInya, sedangkan lainnya mesin bensin belum menggunakkan direct injection (kecuali mesin diesel udah banyak yang paki direct injection) Untuk mitsubishi ada sih di Indo yang pakai GDI tapi dari pihak Importir umum, kalo nggak salah Pajero yang masuk sini yang bentuknya jelek hehehehe itu ada yang GDI ada juga yang diesel.
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Btw bro, grand vitara 2.4 itu kapan ya kira2x keluar, jadi penasaran nih bisa nggak ngelawan new CR-V dan New X-Trail soalnya udah bosen ngeliat kedua mobil itu di jalan :D
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haha.. tul, cherry QQ ganti mesin, pasang turbo, air suspension + velg 19.. mantab..
new camry juga lewat.. :wink:
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ga mungkin mau qq, minimal mini cooper
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Klo naek cherry si (bukannya nyombong y), bisa mati saya apalagi kasi turbo n big rims. Mobilnya cepet panas n ga bisa ngerem ntar masuk kolong truk saya. Ya mobil idaman ya mobil menggunakan mesin 2.0T-FSI. kenceng, irit, stabil, susah d dikejar unless lawan evo/subaru ya ga kuat. GV nanti harganya si naiknya lumayan banyak terutama mesin 2.4 yang baru(bukan comotan dari captiva, karena suzuki kan punya GM). Ini mesin pure japan n udah disarankan agar tenaganya 165HP+ n torque saya rasa harus 230-240NM. tapi harga tetep lebih murah dari CRV n X-trail. Ya liat aja nanti. Peluncuran mesinnya belom tau kapan, mungkin masih R&D di japan. so tunggu aja
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naldo wrote:Klo naek cherry si (bukannya nyombong y), bisa mati saya apalagi kasi turbo n big rims. Mobilnya cepet panas n ga bisa ngerem ntar masuk kolong truk saya. Ya mobil idaman ya mobil menggunakan mesin 2.0T-FSI. kenceng, irit, stabil, susah d dikejar unless lawan evo/subaru ya ga kuat. GV nanti harganya si naiknya lumayan banyak terutama mesin 2.4 yang baru(bukan comotan dari captiva, karena suzuki kan punya GM). Ini mesin pure japan n udah disarankan agar tenaganya 165HP+ n torque saya rasa harus 230-240NM. tapi harga tetep lebih murah dari CRV n X-trail. Ya liat aja nanti. Peluncuran mesinnya belom tau kapan, mungkin masih R&D di japan. so tunggu aja
Ha3.. Namanya juga orang indo... Smua bisa jadi apapun...
Mobil kecil koq mau dipasang turbo?
Tujuannya buat mengatasi kepadatan kota koq...
Ga sekalian dipakein dimotor juga? Ha3...
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog...
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Bung naldo, sesuai judul thread ini : 'problem sx4'.
Ngomong2 sudah ada solusinya belum? Gimana perkembangan testingnya di Tambun?

Biasanya saya yg nyetir SX4-nya, hari ini disupirin. Waduh, first time driver yg belum biasa
dgn gigi 1 SX4! Getar2 dan pake mati mesin segala.

Udah 6 bulan dari peluncuran, masih tahap cari penyebab getar2 atau sudah cari-2 solusi ya?

Thanks infonya.
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Sebelum ditanya: first time driver maksudnya baru pertama nyetir SX4, bukan baru bisa nyetir lho.
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I don't know yet about that next info. But I think no one is complaining bout that again. If ur driver still not used to with the clutch, I have the trick or solution. If you want to release the cluth, the gas is on 1500-2000RPM, so the cars isn't turn off and not "ndut-nduttan" or vibrating. That's the trick how to drive the Manual trans. of SX4.
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No complain doesn't necessarily mean the problem has gone away.
Could be just being tired of complaining again and again without any solutions.

Anyhow, if you've got used to driving manual SX4 for some time and learn the trick, it is not
as irritating at first. Still, the main issue is the problem is unsolved yet.
And please don't let IMNI think that's it is ok to let go and not do anything about it.
The customers are waiting, some patiently, some are not.......
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krissandi wrote:No complain doesn't necessarily mean the problem has gone away.
Could be just being tired of complaining again and again without any solutions.

Anyhow, if you've got used to driving manual SX4 for some time and learn the trick, it is not
as irritating at first. Still, the main issue is the problem is unsolved yet.
And please don't let IMNI think that's it is ok to let go and not do anything about it.
The customers are waiting, some patiently, some are not.......

agree with krissandi's comment. actually i have one of manual SX 4, and yet it has the problem too. I have run until 4600 km and the problem still exists. And it is a bit anoying for me. I hope IMNI going to recall all SX4 Manual to solve the problem. Just like a gentlement did.
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Eh iya ya, baru ngeh ini thread masalah SX4, abisnya pake RSS reader, jadi gak kebaca yang depan2...

Kemungkinan... Ini cuma kemungkinan, dan kemungkinan lagi udah dibahas. Mesin SX4 Indonesia kan unik, umumnya 1600 cc di negara lain dengan tenaga dan torsi yang sedikit lebih besar. Kemungkinan rasio gigi yang digunakan untuk SX4 Indonesia sama dengan SX4 negara lain tanpa mengindahkan tenaga, jadi sedikit underpower. Hal ini disebabkan tenaga mesin 1.5L yang lebih kecil dan harus dikompensasi dengan putaran mesin yang lebih tinggi (tenaga = torsi x putaran mesin).

Contoh, transmisi CVT Honda Jazz i-DSI dan VTEC. Keduanya menggunakan mesin dengan karakteristik yang sangat berbeda, dimana ciri i-DSi adalah high torque low rpm dan ciri VTEC adalah high power high rpm. Akan tetapi keduanya menggunakan rentang rasio gigi yang sama (rentang karena CVT). Alhasil dalam kondisi WOT (wide open throttle), si gigi gak peduli mesin apa yang dipakai, jadinya, mesin i-DSI dikira VTEC, gas dipentokin ampe redline 6000 rpm yang hasilnya nihil karena tenaga maksimum i-DSI dicapai di 5500 rpm, dan dengan susah payah karena torsi ngempos setelah 2800 rpm. Sementara, dalam kondisi jalan pelan, VTEC dikira i-DSI, jadi kalau injek gas sedikit terkesan ngoyo, karena torsi dan tenaga baru nendang di putaran mesin tinggi.

Mungkin... Lagi... SX4 Indonesia juga mengalami "keunikan" yang sama dengan Jazz VTEC dan i-DSI dengan transmisi CVT. Yang intinya, itu lumrah, jadi dianggap bukan masalah... Kali... Kalau di kasus Honda Jazz sih, yang pake i-DSI gak bisa ngebut, dan yang pake VTEC harus injek gas lebih dalem untuk overtake dalam kondisi perkotaan.

Untuk SX4 manual, ya pindahlah gigi di rentang 1500-2000rpm seperti bro Naldo bilang.
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makanya td dulu sebelum beli
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batchmania wrote:makanya td dulu sebelum beli
Halah, mau td gimana wong unit tdnya AT. AKu pernah nyoba yang mau di delivery ke konsumen, ya grudak gruduk gitu. Tapi kok tetep ambil ya? Gak lah aku ga nyesel ambil SX, it's very unique car! apalagi best compact SUV versi AB hehehehe....
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setuju, drpd terios / rush, ride (juga built) qualitynya sx4 sangat jauh lebih baik.
emang mungkin kapasitas mesin (torque & final gear ratio) yg pas2an membuatnya agak sulit saat launch/pick-up powernya.
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ngidam nih SX4, sementara berpuas diri ama baleno nextG. hehe!
overall minggu lalu sempet nyoba SX4, a friend of mine... oke, dan rasanya utk jalan2 di jkt-bdg (karena nyoba sejauh itu aja) nyaman bgt.

nice car, cheers!
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