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hehehe...sama ...gw jg gak ngerti maksudnya? :D
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nah.. semua pada bingung..
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anjrit yg benar nich beda 20 jt, beda di grill depan ama interior aja. cccckkk......cccckkkk emang Honda ist the best
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Vios baru aja cuma beda 1 juta dgn yg lama kalu tdk salah.
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dony wrote:anjrit yg benar nich beda 20 jt, beda di grill depan ama interior aja. cccckkk......cccckkkk emang Honda ist the best
Cuma kamu yang nangkap maksud saya :lol:

Maksud saya beda 20 jt ma model lama, yang sebelom lampu belakang ma gril di ganti.... :lol:

Tapi beda 20 jt itu udah ada air bag ma ABS EBD... tapi tetap aja kerasa lebih mahal dari model lawas...
Yeah yeah yeah ! ! !
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ooooo.. hehehe..
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Wah.. udah dibeli... cepet bener seh.. gw denger th 2008 banyak model baru keluar... tuh City bakal diafkir modelnya.. gw rasa tinggal sisa2 aja tuh yg dijual ada penyok kecil2 dan baret sini sono.. ck ck ck ... .. diskon gede buat abisin stok kali yee..
Belakangan ini gw udah ilfill sama honda nih... jualan mobil udah kayak di Glodok main tawar2an .. marginnya kelewat gede sihhhh!!!
NO offence to honda lovers .... gw juga punya boil Honda... i love it.. honda Ferio koleksi gw beli dari baru th 2000 km masih 30rb... model masih cakep aja.. blum uzur juga tuh modelnya . TOB!!

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Nih new baleno concept yg nongol di JCC.. keren kan?.. .. katanya nih mobil bakal keluar thn 2008.. ya tentunya versi sedan blm modif2... spt yg concept.
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handa wrote:
dony wrote:anjrit yg benar nich beda 20 jt, beda di grill depan ama interior aja. cccckkk......cccckkkk emang Honda ist the best
Cuma kamu yang nangkap maksud saya :lol:

Maksud saya beda 20 jt ma model lama, yang sebelom lampu belakang ma gril di ganti.... :lol:

Tapi beda 20 jt itu udah ada air bag ma ABS EBD... tapi tetap aja kerasa lebih mahal dari model lawas...
Beda 20 juta itu gak cuma karena Honda bisa sesukanya pasang harga, silahkan lihat disini.

http://asia.vtec.net/Reviews/05CityMMC/index.html
Firstly there is a new header design. It is still stainless steel and is still a 4-to-1 design. However, firstly the individual runners are now shorter, they are straighter than the original design. Honda says this reduces the surface area of the header runners and retains heat better. This will help warm up the catalytic converter faster and directly contributes to a lower engine emission. In addition to this, the portion between the collector and the flange has been lengthened and the 'exhaust temp sensor' which used to be mounted to the cat itself, is now mounted to this new section of header piping. The rest of the exhaust is supposed to be identical to the original.
While the engine itself remains unchanged, the intake system has been changed. More specifically the intake duct design is new. This is done in conjunction with the new much improved cooling system which I will explain afterwards. But first I want to touch on the point where the intake system still opens out into the engine bay, i.e. the inlet to the air-filter box is still situated inside the engine bay.
The City MMC features a nose that is extended 65mm further in front and 30mm higher. The front wheels however sits in the same place in relation to the cabin which means the L15A engine and gearbox also sits in the original place. What this translates to inside the engine bay is the creation of a 65mm of extra space between the front of the engine and gearbox and the nose of the car, where the radiator and air-cond condensers are. Honda R&D actually put this extra space to very good use. What they did was to design a new cooling fan... <snip> With the City MMC's new engine bay design, Honda's R&D engineers changed the sub-fan's rotating pattern to an anti-clockwise direction. This rather ingenious new setup means that the air-flow that comes out from both fans are in opposite spiraling pattern. What happens when they hit the engine/gearbox is that while the main fan's air-flow continues to swerve right, the sub-fan's air-flow now swerves left (i.e. towards the front passenger side). By careful positioning of the new intake duct inlet, Honda R&D exploited the extra space in the engine bay with this new air-flow pattern and actually created a cooler air-temperature in the area around the intake inlet.
Another very significant change inside the engine bay is the enhanced air-conditioning system. The major change here is a new air-cond compressor which has an attached oil separator. What this does is to separate the compressor oil (which is needed to lubricate the compressor) and the air-cond gas (which is the new CFC-free type). The idea is that in ordinary compressors, the lubricating oil flows together with the cooling gas.
The final area on the City MMC where significant upgrade has been done is the suspension...<snip>
For the front suspension, the springs are stiffer while the shocks have been tuned to complement the higher rate. The damper bump-stops are now urethane instead of rubber ! The suspension bushing positions have also been changed to work in conjunction with the new spring/damper components while the front suspension knuckle has also been improved.
For the rear suspension, the spring rate have been reduced and the shocks again tuned to complement the new softer rate. The suspension bushes are also improved. The rear anti-roll bar is now smaller.
Jadi beda 20 juta dengan pendahulunya itu karena update hal-hal yang gak terlihat. Seharusnya pengalaman berkendara City refresh lebih tinggi dibanding model awalnya, dengan peningkatan-peningkatan ini... Tapi yah, gak semua orang mempunyai driving passion seperti yang tukang insinyur Honda harapkan. Padahal semua duit buat remake suspensi, idung dan intake bisa dibuat pasang tombol start/stop engine, keyless entry, tire pressure monitor, HID dan... Apapun yang ada di Vios tipe G.
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weleh.. penjelasan nya lengkap banget..
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Tetap aja Honda kalo jualan mobil ambil untungnya gila2an... Gw ditawarin Jazz baru dg disc 8jt!!! yg beneng aja.. udah pasti dong setelah dipotong 8jt masih tetap untung!.. ga mungkin deh ada pedege yg mo rugi.
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maxx wrote:ga mungkin deh ada pedege yg mo rugi.
Stock clearance, yang penting duit muter... Soalnya pas pengganti Jazz datang tahun depan, udah pasti Jazz lama bakal mandek. Daripada idle money, mending dijual, yang penting modal balik. Dulu gw kerja di perusahaan notebook lokal, untuk hajar kompetitor, perusahaan gw gak segan jual rugi untuk dapetin sales dan buang stok... Dunia dagang... hiy... Untung gw keluar, kalo gak hati nurani gw ancur.

Kayak kasus Honda Stream aja, diskon gede2an, langsung stok ludes. Terakhir gw inget awal tahun lalu di Honda Jakarta Center masih ada 10-15 unit di gudang, sekarang abis.
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Midi_Amp wrote:
maxx wrote:ga mungkin deh ada pedege yg mo rugi.
Stock clearance, yang penting duit muter... Soalnya pas pengganti Jazz datang tahun depan, udah pasti Jazz lama bakal mandek. Daripada idle money, mending dijual, yang penting modal balik. Dulu gw kerja di perusahaan notebook lokal, untuk hajar kompetitor, perusahaan gw gak segan jual rugi untuk dapetin sales dan buang stok... Dunia dagang... hiy... Untung gw keluar, kalo gak hati nurani gw ancur.

Kayak kasus Honda Stream aja, diskon gede2an, langsung stok ludes. Terakhir gw inget awal tahun lalu di Honda Jakarta Center masih ada 10-15 unit di gudang, sekarang abis.
kl ngga gini gimana saham astra bisa naek terus..
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maxx wrote:Wah.. udah dibeli... cepet bener seh.. gw denger th 2008 banyak model baru keluar... tuh City bakal diafkir modelnya.. gw rasa tinggal sisa2 aja tuh yg dijual ada penyok kecil2 dan baret sini sono.. ck ck ck ... .. diskon gede buat abisin stok kali yee..
Belakangan ini gw udah ilfill sama honda nih... jualan mobil udah kayak di Glodok main tawar2an .. marginnya kelewat gede sihhhh!!!
NO offence to honda lovers .... gw juga punya boil Honda... i love it.. honda Ferio koleksi gw beli dari baru th 2000 km masih 30rb... model masih cakep aja.. blum uzur juga tuh modelnya . TOB!!

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Nih new baleno concept yg nongol di JCC.. keren kan?.. .. katanya nih mobil bakal keluar thn 2008.. ya tentunya versi sedan blm modif2... spt yg concept.
itu bukan baleno.. tapi SX4 versi sedan deh..

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etoh wrote:
maxx wrote:Wah.. udah dibeli... cepet bener seh.. gw denger th 2008 banyak model baru keluar... tuh City bakal diafkir modelnya.. gw rasa tinggal sisa2 aja tuh yg dijual ada penyok kecil2 dan baret sini sono.. ck ck ck ... .. diskon gede buat abisin stok kali yee..
Belakangan ini gw udah ilfill sama honda nih... jualan mobil udah kayak di Glodok main tawar2an .. marginnya kelewat gede sihhhh!!!
NO offence to honda lovers .... gw juga punya boil Honda... i love it.. honda Ferio koleksi gw beli dari baru th 2000 km masih 30rb... model masih cakep aja.. blum uzur juga tuh modelnya . TOB!!

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Nih new baleno concept yg nongol di JCC.. keren kan?.. .. katanya nih mobil bakal keluar thn 2008.. ya tentunya versi sedan blm modif2... spt yg concept.
itu bukan baleno.. tapi SX4 versi sedan deh..

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itu memang SX4 Sedan tapi bakal jadi pengganti Baleno di Indonesia maksudnya, jadinya New Baleno deh...gitu... :D
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New Baleno ini jauh lebih keren dari baleno NEXT G.... jg lebih cakep dari City, hehe... Cuma g dah bosen bgt pake merk suzuki terus... dari g kecil mobil g suzuki semua :D
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handa wrote:New Baleno ini jauh lebih keren dari baleno NEXT G.... jg lebih cakep dari City, hehe... Cuma g dah bosen bgt pake merk suzuki terus... dari g kecil mobil g suzuki semua :D
kalu' memang suka, kenapa tidak? :D
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handa wrote:New Baleno ini jauh lebih keren dari baleno NEXT G.... jg lebih cakep dari City, hehe... Cuma g dah bosen bgt pake merk suzuki terus... dari g kecil mobil g suzuki semua :D
cobain honda dan toyota dulu bro......karena mereka adalah benchmarknya untuk sedan jepang di indonesia, kalo gak suka, ya balik ke suzuki lagi bro.... :D
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Risol1 wrote:
handa wrote:New Baleno ini jauh lebih keren dari baleno NEXT G.... jg lebih cakep dari City, hehe... Cuma g dah bosen bgt pake merk suzuki terus... dari g kecil mobil g suzuki semua :D
cobain honda dan toyota dulu bro......karena mereka adalah benchmarknya untuk sedan jepang di indonesia, kalo gak suka, ya balik ke suzuki lagi bro.... :D
Bro Honda udah beli City tuh.. makanya dia bilang bosen .. jadi ga mo ambil suzuki lagi.
Btw.. Baleno memang sedan yg dibuat dari SX4 nih... tp cakep tuh kalo udah di modif gitu.. sporty abizzz.. City '08 yg baru kek gimana yah?
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oh udah beli ya?

review dong bro Handa, abis itu bandingin sama suzuki, enak mana? :D
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Udah beli, tapi mobil nya belom datang, tunggu stnk nya keluar 2 minggu lagi , lama bener karena city ini built-up Thailand...
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New city gd8 masih worth tahun segini, harga udah murah tp fitur masih bisa diadu drpd lcgc harga serupa
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citygd8 wrote: 07 Jun 2021, 09:31 New city gd8 masih worth tahun segini, harga udah murah tp fitur masih bisa diadu drpd lcgc harga serupa
Ya tapi pr rebuild peremajaan dll sebuah Honda tua ga sesederhana dan mudah LSCG harga serupa yg dimaksud.
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Bean06 wrote: 07 Feb 2024, 10:55 Ya tapi pr rebuild peremajaan dll sebuah Honda tua ga sesederhana dan mudah LSCG harga serupa yg dimaksud.
Hahaha, bener banget. Jadi inget daily driver kesayangan ane dulu sebelum dilepas (full story di sini
viewtopic.php?p=1019129&hilit=Story+GD8#p1019129 )
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Ini aku sharing biaya overhaul engine L15A

- Gasket kit (full Set) 2,3 jt (original)
- Piston set (OEM) 925 rb
- Metal duduk (std) 200 rb
- Metal jalan (std) 200 rb
- Metal bulan (std) 100 rb
- Kopling set 1,3 jt
- Laher NSK 175 rb
- Ongkos turun mesin 3.5 jt - 5 jt

Belum termasuk ongkos bubut cyl. blok, papas cyl. head
Estimasi sekitar 16 - 20 jt, relatif murah ongkos restorasi Honda L15 engine
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