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cvsmb wrote:Ok Guys. Thanks for your help.. kira2 bagus mana antara vkool dngan 3M CR70 untuk depan? ada plus minusnya??

Repotnya ditempat saya, customer ga di educate sama sekali.. cuma isinya jual2 aja.. harusnya pengalaman customer ditampung n kalo ada apa2 di bilangin plus minusnya.. Hari ini mo bongkar kaca film yg depan samping 80% jadi 60%...ga kuat terlalu gelap didalam ga bisa kelihatan luar kalo ga ada lampu jalanan yg memadai.

Pengalaman saya....pemakaian kaca film seharusnya tergantung dengan kebutuhan...
1. Plusnya pake KF gelap..sekarang lagi trend2nya punya warna mobil gelap kaca film harus gelap juga.. keren juga mobil kelihatan elegan tanpa stiker n (kalo bisa) ada velg besar, ga gitu panas2 n untuk pacaran ga ada yg ganggu hehehe...
2. Minusnya..kemaren gua mau nabrak orang dipinggir jalan yg ga ada lampu penerangan (dipinggiran desa), nabrak kayu yg ada dilantai rumah gua karena ga kelihatan dispion samping..harusnya kelihatan kalo KF depan samping ga gelap.

Saran saya..
depan kalo bisa pake 20% max 40% tp jangan pake yg spt RE35/NH35.. ga enak nyetirnya SILAU!!.. mendingan bayar 1jtan utk pake Vkool ato CR70 (gw ga ada pengalaman ama CR70) dijamin enak..
samping depan max 60% n blkg terserah berapa %....

ada yg punya pengalaman dgn CR70?
VKOOL70 vs 3M CR70 .. setara bos.. ga akan bisa rasain beda tolak panasnya scr real-life usage.
Yang beda.. harganya.. 3M lebih murah (*setidaknya disini :D) .. selain itu 3M punya pabrik sendiri.. sdgkan VKOOL katanya ga ada pabrik KFnya tuh, cmiiw.

Betul banget saran si bos!.. soal jenis KF ... ya ada harga ada rupa bos.
Depan emang plg cocok menggunakan KF yg memang khusus di develop untuk kaca depan >> VKOOL70, 3M CR70, Huper Optic DREI, Llumar Gold Series, Perfection New Ni65, Spectrum Premium Super Clear << ini semua jenis KF secara real life performanya mirip2 deh .. ga beda jauh. Meskipun Spec tertulis berbeda2.. tp gw percaya yg real life usage benchmark dari pada spec.
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Betul banget saran si bos!.. soal jenis KF ... ya ada harga ada rupa bos.
Depan emang plg cocok menggunakan KF yg memang khusus di develop untuk kaca depan >> VKOOL70, 3M CR70, Huper Optic DREI, Llumar Gold Series, Perfection New Ni65, Spectrum Premium Super Clear << ini semua jenis KF secara real life performanya mirip2 deh .. ga beda jauh. Meskipun Spec tertulis berbeda2.. tp gw percaya yg real life usage benchmark dari pada spec.
Kalo Johnsons ada utk kaca dpn bagus?
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Tidak dibuat khusus tp bisa dipakai >> yg silver 20 dan silver 40. Tapi tetap KF yg disebut diatas/sebelumnya lebih tepat u/ Kaca depan.
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bro maxx, kalau KF untuk SX4 samping, depan dan belakang bagusnya pake apa dan kira2 abisnya berapa ya?
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mupeng wrote:bro maxx, kalau KF untuk SX4 samping, depan dan belakang bagusnya pake apa dan kira2 abisnya berapa ya?
SX4 warna apa? .. suka yg silver atau hitam?

soal harga2.. coba di cocokan budgetnya dg yg di http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... =37&t=7775 .. nanti harga u/ sx4 .. disesuaikan dikit.
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SX4 warna grapphite grey.
Kalau dipadu dengan warna silver jadinya apa gak aneh entar?
klo liat dari milis yg laen tertariknya sih pake 3M ya..
emang bro maxx gak maen di V-Kool ya..
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mupeng wrote:SX4 warna grapphite grey.
Kalau dipadu dengan warna silver jadinya apa gak aneh entar?
klo liat dari milis yg laen tertariknya sih pake 3M ya..
emang bro maxx gak maen di V-Kool ya..
graphite grey.. pake hitam oke tuh bos.
3M itemnya bagus.. legammmm!
vkool?.. harga selangitttt.. performa mirip2 .. :capede:
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katanya di IIMS 3M lagi diskon 50% yah? wah wah... Image
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poeticmind wrote:katanya di IIMS 3M lagi diskon 50% yah? wah wah... Image
Nah tuh coba di cek harganya dan bandingkan :D
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bener ga sih? 50% ? ini katanya lho bro... namanya juga promosi kali ya... pas acara IIMS.
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Meskipun benar disc 50% saat IIMS, coba deh di cek, apakah lebih murah dari yg disini?? .. :mrgreen:
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VKOOL70 vs 3M CR70 .. setara bos.. ga akan bisa rasain beda tolak panasnya scr real-life usage.
Yang beda.. harganya.. 3M lebih murah (*setidaknya disini :D) .. selain itu 3M punya pabrik sendiri.. sdgkan VKOOL katanya ga ada pabrik KFnya tuh, cmiiw.

Betul banget saran si bos!.. soal jenis KF ... ya ada harga ada rupa bos.
Depan emang plg cocok menggunakan KF yg memang khusus di develop untuk kaca depan >> VKOOL70, 3M CR70, Huper Optic DREI, Llumar Gold Series, Perfection New Ni65, Spectrum Premium Super Clear << ini semua jenis KF secara real life performanya mirip2 deh .. ga beda jauh. Meskipun Spec tertulis berbeda2.. tp gw percaya yg real life usage benchmark dari pada spec.
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Dari alternatif yg diblg bro maxx: VKOOL70, 3M CR70, Huper Optic DREI, Llumar Gold Series, Perfection New Ni65, Spectrum Premium Super Clear untuk kaca depan paling murah yang mana?
Trus KF mana yang paling direkomendasikan neh? Thx
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Kalo menurut gw bukan plg murah yg dicari bos... tapi KF dg value terbaik >> 3M CR70 (*stdknya dr harga list di Monza :D)
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maxx wrote:Meskipun benar disc 50% saat IIMS, coba deh di cek, apakah lebih murah dari yg disini?? .. :mrgreen:
setuju bung maxx. harga2 yang katanya promosi dan discount di pameran tetep lebih mahal daripada di luar.
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Bieng wrote:
maxx wrote:Meskipun benar disc 50% saat IIMS, coba deh di cek, apakah lebih murah dari yg disini?? .. :mrgreen:
setuju bung maxx. harga2 yang katanya promosi dan discount di pameran tetep lebih mahal daripada di luar.
:D .. kan dah gw bilang juga apa he he he...
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IMHO Kemarin tgl 20 di IIMS ditanya ama SPG ,harga V kool untuk GL
"Murah" hanya 5,3 jt utk seluruh kaca ,ternyata lebih mahal dari pasaran ini sih maklum harga sewa stand IIMS yang costnya besar, jadi akhirnya tidak jadi pasang
setelah analisa seharian ternyata V kool dan Huper Optik juga merupakan produk branding yang sukses oleh branding image satu perusahaan http://www.novomatrix.com/index.html , setelah dilihat teknologinya biasa2 aja,yach,...
akhir kata yah "tergantung Budget ama kelas(level) " kata kasarnya yah kalau mau keluar duit banyak untuk prestige yah silakan,... tapi hari gini duit sulit dicari lebih baik pilih yang cost effective,karena kaca mobil juga ngak kan tahan selama itu(5-10 thn) IMHO
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Setelah riset kecil2an, hasilnya seperti dibawah ini.

Ternyata V-KOOL dan HüperOptik emang hasil satu teknologi dan produk yang sama.
Buatan pabrik milik orang USA hasil pengembangan riset MIT dan Silikon Valley,
yang diproduksi di Großröhrsdorf, dekat Dresden Jerman,
dan dipasarkan (marketing dan distribution) oleh perusahaan Singapure.
Begitu singkatnya.

Karena basisnya di Asia, makanya orang amrik nggak gitu ngerti merk VKool kali ya ...
walaupun secara review, banyak juga yang bilang OK.

anyway,
kemarin udah beli Huper Drei buat kaca depan doang.
ada yg udah make??? puas??? terlalu gelap???
Betul kata beberapa sobs di atas, di IIMS walaupun bilangnya diskonnya gede,
jatuhnya nggak lebih murah :capede:
tp, itung2 kita bisa lihat langsung, dan mbandingin banyak produk tanpa risih di-sinis-in.
lagian, spgnya juga cukup bikin enak kok diajak ngomongnya :e-naughty: ...

ok deh,
hope this helps!!!

From OEM to Aftermarket…
In 1994 Southwall introduced Solis® Heat Control window film, which is a transparent polyester film that is applied directly to windows to block approximately half of the sun’s heat and virtually all of the damaging ultraviolet radiation. Window film is an aftermarket product that is mounted onto the interior surface of the glass – either in a building or in an automobile – to reduce heat, glare and UV radiation. Southwall partnered with GlobaMatrix (GMX), a private, Singaporean-based marketing and distribution company, to create and develop the world’s first high-performance (clear but heat reflecting) product brand for this market. The business continues to expand today through an exclusive, franchised network consisting of more than 1,000 retail locations that install V-KOOL® and HüperOptik® branded products in cars and buildings in over 25 countries


About Novomatrix:
Novomatrix Pte Ltd (NVP) is a joint venture between Globamatrix Holdings and Southern Capital Group, headquartered in Singapore with regional offices in Houston, Dubai, Tokyo, Shanghai, Beijng and Shenzhen. It is a market leader in the spectrally selective window film business operating several global brand names including V-KOOL®, Huper Optik®, Nanolux® and IQue®. NVP has market presence in over 30 countries with distribution reach in excess of 1,000 outlets worldwide. In many of the markets it serve, V-Kool® and Huper Optik® are dominant with unparalleled brand awareness and loyalty. It has won numerous accolades including the Consumer Best Buy, Superbrand and Promising Franchisor of the Year awards.

About Globamatrix:
Globamatrix Holdings Pte Ltd (GMX) is a closely held entity, with key investments in the Window Film and Food & Beverage businesses. It is a brand developer, enabler and operator owning distinguished trade marks through the affiliated companies under its stable.
Apart from the window film business, the GMX group owns, operates and franchises 36 Pastamania® restaurants in Singapore, Malaysia, India Dubai, Kuwait and Indonesia. It employs in excess of 500 staff and has its headquarters in Singapore. The GMX group has won several accolades including the Enterprise50, Fastest Growing 50, Franchise Excellence and Franchisor of the Year awards over the years. Its two founding directors were named Entrepreneur of the Year in Singapore in 2004.

About Southern:
Southern Capital Group is a private equity fund which invests in leading businesses, partnering with successful management teams in differentiated high-growth companies. Founded in 2004, Southern Capital Group makes private equity investments on a pan-Asian basis, contributing both capital and management expertise with the objective of maximizing operational and shareholder value. Southern Capital Group's investors comprises of leading global financial institutions, including banks, insurance companies and government investment entities, corporate investors and high net worth individuals. Its principals and advisors include an ex-Prime Minister, former and current Chairmen and CEOs of some of Asia's largest companies, business and government leaders, senior management and strategy consultants."
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maxx wrote:
cvsmb wrote:Ok Guys. Thanks for your help.. kira2 bagus mana antara vkool dngan 3M CR70 untuk depan? ada plus minusnya??

Repotnya ditempat saya, customer ga di educate sama sekali.. cuma isinya jual2 aja.. harusnya pengalaman customer ditampung n kalo ada apa2 di bilangin plus minusnya.. Hari ini mo bongkar kaca film yg depan samping 80% jadi 60%...ga kuat terlalu gelap didalam ga bisa kelihatan luar kalo ga ada lampu jalanan yg memadai.

Pengalaman saya....pemakaian kaca film seharusnya tergantung dengan kebutuhan...
1. Plusnya pake KF gelap..sekarang lagi trend2nya punya warna mobil gelap kaca film harus gelap juga.. keren juga mobil kelihatan elegan tanpa stiker n (kalo bisa) ada velg besar, ga gitu panas2 n untuk pacaran ga ada yg ganggu hehehe...
2. Minusnya..kemaren gua mau nabrak orang dipinggir jalan yg ga ada lampu penerangan (dipinggiran desa), nabrak kayu yg ada dilantai rumah gua karena ga kelihatan dispion samping..harusnya kelihatan kalo KF depan samping ga gelap.

Saran saya..
depan kalo bisa pake 20% max 40% tp jangan pake yg spt RE35/NH35.. ga enak nyetirnya SILAU!!.. mendingan bayar 1jtan utk pake Vkool ato CR70 (gw ga ada pengalaman ama CR70) dijamin enak..
samping depan max 60% n blkg terserah berapa %....

ada yg punya pengalaman dgn CR70?
VKOOL70 vs 3M CR70 .. setara bos.. ga akan bisa rasain beda tolak panasnya scr real-life usage.
Yang beda.. harganya.. 3M lebih murah (*setidaknya disini :D) .. selain itu 3M punya pabrik sendiri.. sdgkan VKOOL katanya ga ada pabrik KFnya tuh, cmiiw.

Betul banget saran si bos!.. soal jenis KF ... ya ada harga ada rupa bos.
Depan emang plg cocok menggunakan KF yg memang khusus di develop untuk kaca depan >> VKOOL70, 3M CR70, Huper Optic DREI, Llumar Gold Series, Perfection New Ni65, Spectrum Premium Super Clear << ini semua jenis KF secara real life performanya mirip2 deh .. ga beda jauh. Meskipun Spec tertulis berbeda2.. tp gw percaya yg real life usage benchmark dari pada spec.

Ko gak ada solargard..?apa emang gak sekelas yah..?yang di gembor2in waktu pameran si sterling itu gimana kualitasnya.?
>> VKOOL70, 3M CR70, Huper Optic DREI, Llumar Gold Series, Perfection New Ni65, Spectrum Premium Super Clear << dari jejeran merk ini yang pantulan dashboardnya paling rendah yang mana yah...please urutin bagi yang udah pengalaman yah...

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abis wrote: Ko gak ada solargard..?apa emang gak sekelas yah..?yang di gembor2in waktu pameran si sterling itu gimana kualitasnya.?
>> VKOOL70, 3M CR70, Huper Optic DREI, Llumar Gold Series, Perfection New Ni65, Spectrum Premium Super Clear << dari jejeran merk ini yang pantulan dashboardnya paling rendah yang mana yah...please urutin bagi yang udah pengalaman yah...

thx
Solargard kualitas dibawah sederet nama type KF diatas yg lo tulis.

Soal pantulan di dashboard >> tanpa KF pun kalo siang hari ada pantulan di kaca depan, hal ini ga bisa dihindari dg memasang KF malah kalo pasang KF jenis yg tidak tepat bisa lebih lagi mantulnya dikaca depan. Intinya pantulan yg plg rendah (mendekati pantulan dashboar tanpa KF) adalah yg plg clear, kalo warna silver (metal) dan hitam.. pasti tambah lagi pantulan dashboard di kaca depan.
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kalo perfection bisa dipalsuin gak yah..?ciri2 yang asli apa tuh bro..?
kalo kartu garansi yang udah make perfection bentuknya gimana bro..?
kaya ATM (keras) atau kaya karton nasi.?
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abis wrote:kalo perfection bisa dipalsuin gak yah..?ciri2 yang asli apa tuh bro..?
kalo kartu garansi yang udah make perfection bentuknya gimana bro..?
kaya ATM (keras) atau kaya karton nasi.?
kalo kartu garansi perfection gue bro bentuknya kayak karton and tidak seperti ATM. tp gue yakin ini asli karena gue pasangnya di tempat langganan gue yang selalu masang di mobil gue, bokap, nyokap, ade dari tahun 2000.
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kartu garansi spt ATM cuma KF3M aja, itu juga ga jadi langsung krn harus di pesan ke pusatnya dan lama jadinya, sebelum Kartu garansi model kartu ATM ada tetap pakai kartu garansi kertas ... kadang kartu garansi model ATM ga jadi2 .. gw lihat sih lebih ke arah sales & marketing strategy aja.

Garansi bukan asuransi.. kalo kesodok sampai sobek / kesalahan pemakaian maka ga akan diganti, Garansi KF lebih ke arah pemasangan (spt gelembung, terlipat, white spot) dan cacat produksi spt Warna KF luntur.
Warna KF Luntur biasanya tidak terjadi pada KF bermerk terkenal.
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Bos maxx di tokonya jual semua jenis KF ya... kayanya yg mana aja bisa dibandingin tuh ama harga di toko si bos... Mantaaaab....
Kalo perfections sama spectrum bagusan mana bos?
Mending pake:
1. Perfections New Ni65 (Dpn) + Ni 10/Dark Crystal (Smpg+blkg)
2. Perfections New Ni65 (Dpn) + Spectrum 60/80 Silver/Steel (Smpg+blkg)
Kedua opsi di atas harganya berapa bos utk altis, tlg pm-in ya.... pastinya dengan harga diskon... hehehe....
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LeQ wrote:Bos maxx di tokonya jual semua jenis KF ya... kayanya yg mana aja bisa dibandingin tuh ama harga di toko si bos... Mantaaaab....
Kalo perfections sama spectrum bagusan mana bos?
Mending pake:
1. Perfections New Ni65 (Dpn) + Ni 10/Dark Crystal (Smpg+blkg)
2. Perfections New Ni65 (Dpn) + Spectrum 60/80 Silver/Steel (Smpg+blkg)
Kedua opsi di atas harganya berapa bos utk altis, tlg pm-in ya.... pastinya dengan harga diskon... hehehe....
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Bagusan 3M CR70 (dpn) + 3M BB5 (smpg-blkg) :D

Anyway.. cek pm
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maxx wrote:
Bagusan 3M CR70 (dpn) + 3M BB5 (smpg-blkg) :D

Anyway.. cek pm
Thanks bos pmnya....
Wah kalo 3M overbudget bos... hehehe....