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mkgn juga bro...bbrp mm di batok lampu uda bisa meteran di jalan..
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mau nanya donk..
HID set yang bagus merk apa ya?
jangan yang tw ato cina ya..
mau minta import dari amrik neh...
disana keknya murah2 ya...
liat di ebay harganya cuma 50-100$..
berarti 500.000-1000.000 donk?

oiya kalo dasarnya H4 gimana?
apa musti diganti yang H4 juga?
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tp itu buatan china. apa gunanya bro?
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jadi yang mana yang bagus?
merk apa?
philips?
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alo, masih new nih..

aku mo nanya, kan mobil aku, aku pasangin HID.. Ford Escape.

aku ganti headlampnya, jadi H11..

seandainya headlamp aku H4 gimana??? apa klo dibuat nge-dim ga rusak tuh HID??? kan sekali nariknya gede amat.. klo dibuat ngedim n nyala gt ga masalah???

klo H11 kan lampu besar n lampu dim beda gt..

thx ya..
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H4 pada HID bukan ditarik seperti lampu halogen H4 pada umumnya, tapi ada 2 macam... yaitu H4 single beam dan motorized, H4 motorized adalah H4 dengan single dan high beam, diatur dengan motor utk menggerakan cut off... >>> jika low beam cut-off closed, jika high beam, cut off akan terbuka keatas...
jenisnya bermacam2, ada yg maju mundur dan naik turun (yg umum).
seperti begini, coba ambil senter... nyalakan dan sinari tembok, tutup setengah bagian atas dengan tangan (itu low beam), sekarang buka telapak tangan anda, nah itu high beam... jadi bukan wattnya yg ditarik.

jelas? :)

maka itu, HID dengan reflektor lampu biasa (H4 or else) sebenernya tidak cocok, karena lampu akan menyebar... dan sangat mengganggu pengendara dari lawan arah... sebaiknya dibuat retrofit, yaitu customize lampu dengan menggunakan projector yg ada cut off sheet nya, sehingga HID bisa sempurna dipasang dengan low dan high beam...
pun jika menggunakan reflektor yang ada, usahakan merendahkan kedudukan lampu sebisa mungkin lebih rendah dari batas kap mesin (pada mobil sedan) atau sejajar dengan bumper (pada SUV), utk menghindarkan silau pada pengendara mobil di depan...

nah pada ford escape, retrofit customize ada 2 cara, yaitu mengganti dengan projektor single with motorize cut off, atau 2 projektor (single cut off dan projektor without cutoff--utk high beam).
semua memang belum ada aturan jelas, bebas2 aja... yang penting hormati pengendara lain.

kalo mau tanya detail, satyr jagonya... :P

@r1210g : merek terserah, tapi yg jelas ambil range 4300-6000K saja. yg penting ada garansi... phillips bukan terbaik, termahal iya... hehehe... kalo elo ambil di US, ntar garansi claimnya gimana? nah lho... mending ambil yg deket2 aja...
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nah udah ngerti? kalo mau gw ada HID Xe Vision

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tapi bang poectic..masalahnya...mo dimana nyari tkg retrofit yg rapi>heheheh
trus kalo setelan, kalo terlalu rendah buat ukuran ketinggian mobil keqnya bakalan lebih bagus pake halogen biasa deh..lebih terang..hehehe..
eniwan know where to get a nice retrofit?thanks..
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di sini ga ada yg ahli retrofit

so far gw jual HID... ga pernah tau mana yg bagus...


tinggal atur ketinggian headlampnya aja biar ga silau .. itu jg udah ok
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retrofit memang mengorbankan head lamp/foglamp standar... so sebelum dilakukan, ada baiknya dipertimbangkan dulu... or dengan membeli headlamp 2nd utk dibongkar.
ini tidak murah lho, meskipun 2nd...tapi harus yg bagus dan berfungsi (bukan pecah). so, jika dihitung... customize retrofit memang mahal, i admit!

memakai rumah halogen standar juga bisa seperti satyr bilang, asal diarahkan lampunya sesuai ketinggian yg normal2 saja, hanya kekurangan nya lampu HID tidak fokus, tapi agak menyebar...
modifikasi nya, bisa ditambahkan eye lid, yaitu penempelan pada bagian atas lampu headlamp (sering kok pasti liat), bisa dari bahan fiber, aluminium besi dll. yg dicat sesuai dengan warna body. fungsinya agar lampu tidak menembak ke atas, tapi lurus kedepan.
penggunaan eye lid ini memang tidak terlalu maksimal, tapi tetep lumayan lah... (menghibur diri...)

retrofit keknya ada yg mengerjakan di jkt, katanya di fatmawati... gue juga ga jelas, or coba tanya di tempat modif mobil... mereka rata2 bisa (or pura2 bisa... hehehe), hasil juga gue ga tau... karena belum liat sendiri. hanya liat di majalah, ga ada keterangan itu hasil modif atau beli jadi...
saran, jangan beli retrofit buatan lokal... maksudnya projektor buatan lokal, gue jamin tahan hanya 3-5bulan, burem... projektor sebaiknya cari lepasan yg punya produk luar(spt valeo dll) , atau lepasan headlamp mobil pabrikan... (coba di trajet, terios, new CRV dll).
so, harus sabar... kalo mau maksimal, karena memang disini jarang jadi harus xtra waktu dan budget... but, ga ada yg ga mungkin... kan?!
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HID paling bagus memang untuk projektor yah, cuman cahayanya rada ketahan dikit, tp kan jadi ngga terlalu silau. Lagian sinarnya bisa focus dan tidak menyilaukan pengendara lain.

Td di DTMF ada Fort pakai HID HB4 di semua lampunya, kasian tuh yg didepannya wkwkwk... :shock:

HID paling awet dan ngga mahal apa yah?
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nop bro... justru dengan projektor cahaya ga nahan, tapi fokus dan ga buat silau pengendara di depan...
cahaya akan terarah dan ter-cut off tidak menembak ke atas, tapi terpotong setengah sejajar dengan mobil...
all i can say, projector lamp with HID jika dipasang dengan benar... jauh lebih safe (nyaman di mata, ga capek liat pada malam hari) dibanding halogen pada umumnya.

HID paling awet? wah... ga tau deh, setiap org punya pilihan sendiri2... :)
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@relisar: mau coba Xe Vision ga? ga mahal :D
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hehehehe! nyamber aja lo, tyr... ga ke ibcc? :P
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mau kayanya hari ini. hehehe. kata temen gw ada yg jaga stand cakep

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bener bang...juga lebih terang kalo memang batok nya peruntukan HID...liat cahaya nya turn on..hbuehue
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bukan batok headlampnya ya... tapi rumah projektor nya... batok headlamp semua sama saja... malah di beberapa pabrikan or modifikasi retrofit, housing (batok) headlamp tidak memakai reflektor sama sekali (or dicat gelap/hitam) or reflektor biru (seperti oddisey) or hijau/kuning (fashion).
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maybe I should make this clear..maksud nya reflektor headlamp nya peruntukan HID...mau diamond cut ato pun projector ada yg buat HID..:)
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Bang Satyr, HID Xe Xenon nya 35 watt kan ?
Harga berapa nich ? PM gue please... Thx... :D :beer:
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buat temen2 yg minat utnuk me retrofit headlightnya g ada projector RX330 2 pasang
arrived mid of May

and kalo ada yg minat untuk retrofit motornya
g ready:
sebuah projector accord euro (RHD) + xenon bulb philips 85122=1jt

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@ dexza : please put your offering in business corner.

thanks.

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Bos Moderator...

mau nanya..kalo mau bikin lampu Retrofit tau nggak dimana? mobil gue Civic Vti 2002...

thanks ya..tadi liat di atas kayaknya Bos belom tau..kali2 aja sekarang udah tau..

thanks Bos..
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di pm saja ya... karena ini bukan business corner.

thanks! silahkan dilanjutkan topicnya.
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bro2 skalian.. nglanjutin ya..

klo Ford Escape gw dipasangin proyektor gt kira2 gimana?? bisa??

jd proyektor skalian ma HID nya.. ^^

bagi yang tau isa kasi saran n PM klo ada barangnya.. berikut harga ^^

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rekan2 master HID, ada info ini dari bang savitri;
http://saft7.com/?p=304
sementara ini apa ada solusi2/alat tambahan agar ideal...