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@bapake: se parah apa sih kuda nya? masih bisa dipake kan ??
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mungkin biar lebi enak nya... bisa di jabarin lebi detil gt seberapa parah nya... kalo disertain foto mungkin lebi asik lagi...

btw biasa kalo mau nyehatin mobil diesel jadul sehh, kalo utk sektor enjin, bole siapin alat2 utk purging... lalu siapin glowplug (cmiiw) setau ane kuda diesel masi pake busi pijar... trus siapin filter2 dan ganti smua fluida2... radiator jg diliat, kalo emang uda banyak keropos dan uda pada rembes sana sini, mending di ganti... skalian selang2 radiator jg uda bole diganti kalo uda berumur... termostat jg bole disiapin, siapa tau uda karatan..

kopling set jg boleh, kalo km uda tinggi dan tarikan uda ngempos... musti nya sehh ga tralu sulit sehh nyehatin kuda diesel... scara enjin disel jadul gt lohhh... kuat, ga rewel, ga nyusahin... montir pinggir jalan jg gape ngerjain nya...

yg susah kalo uda urusan body part dehh..

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VanzMatic wrote:Suhu2 diesel, mohon masukannya...

Rencananya,ane pengin bantuin babeh buat nyehatin Kuda diesel babeh di kampung, berbekal ilmu2 dari SM disini...
Yang ane tau dari emak, kondisi mobilnya emang memprihatinkan...
Sayangnya, ane belom pernah cek lagi apa aja yang parah.

Mohon masukannya, secara buta aja, apa aja spare part yg mungkin bisa ane siapin?
Kalo yg ada di kepala ane pertama, servisin radiatornya..

Yang lain, apa aja yaa?

Thanks in advance yaa..
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@VM : Udah di cek timing belt nya om? Punya kuda mayan mahal, hampir 1jt abisnya.
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ak4ng wrote:@bapake: se parah apa sih kuda nya? masih bisa dipake kan ??
Masih bisa. Hanya, bbrp bulan lalu waktu kesana, tarikan rada berat. Ngga kayak biasanya. Kayaknya kopling sih ngga berasa selip yah..

DOHC wrote:mungkin biar lebi enak nya... bisa di jabarin lebi detil gt seberapa parah nya... kalo disertain foto mungkin lebi asik lagi...

btw biasa kalo mau nyehatin mobil diesel jadul sehh, kalo utk sektor enjin, bole siapin alat2 utk purging... lalu siapin glowplug (cmiiw) setau ane kuda diesel masi pake busi pijar... trus siapin filter2 dan ganti smua fluida2... radiator jg diliat, kalo emang uda banyak keropos dan uda pada rembes sana sini, mending di ganti... skalian selang2 radiator jg uda bole diganti kalo uda berumur... termostat jg bole disiapin, siapa tau uda karatan..

kopling set jg boleh, kalo km uda tinggi dan tarikan uda ngempos... musti nya sehh ga tralu sulit sehh nyehatin kuda diesel... scara enjin disel jadul gt lohhh... kuat, ga rewel, ga nyusahin... montir pinggir jalan jg gape ngerjain nya...

yg susah kalo uda urusan body part dehh..

cmiiw..
Terus terang, ane juga ngga hapal busi pijar baeknya diganti pada brp kilometer, trus harganya berapa..
Nah, filter2, apa aja yah yg harus disiapin di Kuda diesel...? Maap agak lupa...
Kalau radiator, yaa, pernah ane post juga, waktu ane ganti tabung cadangan radiator dengan punya Kisup.
Waktu itu, sebatas ane flush radiatornya, trus isi dgn radiator coolant, berhubung radiator treatment lagi pada kosong.
Keliatannya sihh itu udh perlu banget diservis radiatornya..
Nah kalo part body, kayaknya ngga ada deh, selain mika lampu depan burem (engga parah sih), trus body udh beset2 dimana2, diperparah dulu sempet erupsi merapi, sehingga,... ya .. gitu deeeh...namanya juga abu vulkanik... Dikemoceng bisa baret parah, dicuci pake air malah jadi lumpur vulkanik..
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BADAK wrote:@VM : Udah di cek timing belt nya om? Punya kuda mayan mahal, hampir 1jt abisnya.
timingbelt seingetku udh ganti om.. barengan bearing kruk as ya om? Cmiiw..
Waktu itu aku beli parts doank, trus digantiin oleh mekanik andalan anak2 IdMOC, si om Slamet itu..
Oia, ternyata setelah beliau liat2 timing belt ama bearing kruk as, ternyata mirip ama punyanya Galant yg taun berapaa gitu, lupak, hehe... So, salah satu bukti lagi, part substitusi Mitsu itu banyak. Komponen yg kalo kita bilang punya Galant, pasti berharga lebih mahal dibanding yg punya Kuda. Padhal sama persis..

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om VM:
kuras tangki BBM, check fuel pump, fuel filter, oil filter, timing belt, kopling, dinamo starter, alternator.
purging, glow plug, service radiator, ganti oli gearbox, transmisi, mesin...
spooring dan balancing, periksa bushing, tie rod, ball join dkk..

kalo part yang bisa diservice, service aja, kalo gak bisa, mending ganti... :big_peace:
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maskopat wrote:om VM:
kuras tangki BBM, check fuel pump, fuel filter, oil filter, timing belt, kopling, dinamo starter, alternator.
purging, glow plug, service radiator, ganti oli gearbox, transmisi, mesin...
spooring dan balancing, periksa bushing, tie rod, ball join dkk..

kalo part yang bisa diservice, service aja, kalo gak bisa, mending ganti... :big_peace:
SIIP, makasih juga, om Kopat...!
Post post di atas ane juga udh ane catet, termasuk point2 dari om Kopat...!

Cuman, yang ane penasaran, kuras tangki BBM/solar ini, di bengkel biasa, berapa ongkos kira2 yah? Buat bekal tawar menawar, hehe... :mky_01:
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VanzMatic wrote:
maskopat wrote:om VM:
kuras tangki BBM, check fuel pump, fuel filter, oil filter, timing belt, kopling, dinamo starter, alternator.
purging, glow plug, service radiator, ganti oli gearbox, transmisi, mesin...
spooring dan balancing, periksa bushing, tie rod, ball join dkk..

kalo part yang bisa diservice, service aja, kalo gak bisa, mending ganti... :big_peace:
SIIP, makasih juga, om Kopat...!
Post post di atas ane juga udh ane catet, termasuk point2 dari om Kopat...!

Cuman, yang ane penasaran, kuras tangki BBM/solar ini, di bengkel biasa, berapa ongkos kira2 yah? Buat bekal tawar menawar, hehe... :mky_01:
dulu sih ane di bengkel biasa di jakarta timur kuras tangki apv waktu kasus fuel pump jebol, sekitar 50 - 100rb...
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maskopat wrote:
VanzMatic wrote:
maskopat wrote:om VM:
kuras tangki BBM, check fuel pump, fuel filter, oil filter, timing belt, kopling, dinamo starter, alternator.
purging, glow plug, service radiator, ganti oli gearbox, transmisi, mesin...
spooring dan balancing, periksa bushing, tie rod, ball join dkk..

kalo part yang bisa diservice, service aja, kalo gak bisa, mending ganti... :big_peace:
SIIP, makasih juga, om Kopat...!
Post post di atas ane juga udh ane catet, termasuk point2 dari om Kopat...!

Cuman, yang ane penasaran, kuras tangki BBM/solar ini, di bengkel biasa, berapa ongkos kira2 yah? Buat bekal tawar menawar, hehe... :mky_01:
dulu sih ane di bengkel biasa di jakarta timur kuras tangki apv waktu kasus fuel pump jebol, sekitar 50 - 100rb...
Noted bro..! :thanks:

Oia, itu bengkelnya bengkel mobil aja yah, bukan kayak bengkel spesialis kayak spesialis radiator gitu...?
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ane sih bengkel langganan aja om...
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bro kopat, kuda diesel masih pake glow plug ya??
wuzz...wuzz...wuzz nyaris tak terdengar.

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m4rio wrote:bro kopat, kuda diesel masih pake glow plug ya??
busi pemanas itu glow plug kan? di dashboardnya sih ada tanda sedang manasin gitu... lupa pastinya. soalnya si kudis dah lama dijual...
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maskopat wrote:
m4rio wrote:bro kopat, kuda diesel masih pake glow plug ya??
busi pemanas itu glow plug kan? di dashboardnya sih ada tanda sedang manasin gitu... lupa pastinya. soalnya si kudis dah lama dijual...
Masih. Confirmed.

Cara yang benar makainya saat manasin:
1. Putar kontak ke posisi ON.
2. Saat glow plug menyala pertama, tunggu. Tunggu sampai lampunya glowplug mati.
3. Saat glowplug mati, segera matikan kontak ke acc, trus puter lagi kontak ke posisi on.
4. Saat glowplug mulai nyala, langsung START your engine.

Kalau aki dan motor stater masih sehat, dijamin, langsung nyala GRENG!

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VanzMatic wrote:
maskopat wrote:
m4rio wrote:bro kopat, kuda diesel masih pake glow plug ya??
busi pemanas itu glow plug kan? di dashboardnya sih ada tanda sedang manasin gitu... lupa pastinya. soalnya si kudis dah lama dijual...
Masih. Confirmed.

Cara yang benar makainya saat manasin:
1. Putar kontak ke posisi ON.
2. Saat glow plug menyala pertama, tunggu. Tunggu sampai lampunya glowplug mati.
3. Saat glowplug mati, segera matikan kontak ke acc, trus puter lagi kontak ke posisi on.
4. Saat glowplug mulai nyala, langsung START your engine.

Kalau aki dan motor stater masih sehat, dijamin, langsung nyala GRENG!

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oh gitu ya?? pantesan supir L300 suka dua kali muter kunci... jadi kl puteran yg pertama buat aktifin glow plug nya.. lalu yg kedua baru start... kl ga salah kuda diesel and L300 ada choke nya kan??
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m4rio wrote:bro kopat, kuda diesel masih pake glow plug ya??
L300 Diesel, Kuda Diesel, Taft, Kijang Diesel, Panther 2.3 masih pake glow plug. Panther yg dibilang diesel jadul malah gak pake, karena udah pake teknologi Direct Injection.
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m4rio wrote:bro kopat, kuda diesel masih pake glow plug ya??
busi pemanas itu glow plug kan? di dashboardnya sih ada tanda sedang manasin gitu... lupa pastinya. soalnya si kudis dah lama dijual...
Masih. Confirmed.

Cara yang benar makainya saat manasin:
1. Putar kontak ke posisi ON.
2. Saat glow plug menyala pertama, tunggu. Tunggu sampai lampunya glowplug mati.
3. Saat glowplug mati, segera matikan kontak ke acc, trus puter lagi kontak ke posisi on.
4. Saat glowplug mulai nyala, langsung START your engine.

Kalau aki dan motor stater masih sehat, dijamin, langsung nyala GRENG!

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ranger wlt engine juga kl ga salah msi pake juga kan ya??
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ak4ng wrote:
VanzMatic wrote:
maskopat wrote: busi pemanas itu glow plug kan? di dashboardnya sih ada tanda sedang manasin gitu... lupa pastinya. soalnya si kudis dah lama dijual...
Masih. Confirmed.

Cara yang benar makainya saat manasin:
1. Putar kontak ke posisi ON.
2. Saat glow plug menyala pertama, tunggu. Tunggu sampai lampunya glowplug mati.
3. Saat glowplug mati, segera matikan kontak ke acc, trus puter lagi kontak ke posisi on.
4. Saat glowplug mulai nyala, langsung START your engine.

Kalau aki dan motor stater masih sehat, dijamin, langsung nyala GRENG!

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oh gitu ya?? pantesan supir L300 suka dua kali muter kunci... jadi kl puteran yg pertama buat aktifin glow plug nya.. lalu yg kedua baru start... kl ga salah kuda diesel and L300 ada choke nya kan??
Seinget ane, ngga ada ..
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BADAK wrote: Kayaknya udah gak perlu ritual kyk gini, krn udah ada komponen pengatur yg disebut controller. CMIIW
nganuu... itu trik yg ane dapet dari mekanik Mitsu langsung....hehehe... :mky_01: :mky_01:
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perasaan bis lampu glow plug mati gk usah balik ke OFF lagi deh, bisa lgsg grenggg.............
wuzz...wuzz...wuzz nyaris tak terdengar.

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m4rio wrote:perasaan bis lampu glow plug mati gk usah balik ke OFF lagi deh, bisa lgsg grenggg.............
Iya, tapi kalo engga balik ke off lagi, ntu motor stater muter mesinnya rada lama dikit, walaupun tidak kedenger indikasi motor stater maupun aki lemes.

Tapi kalo sempet di-off-kan bentar trus langsung start, sedetik langsung nyala. :mky_01:
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kl kabel / tali yg bisa di tarik di bawah stir tu apa ya?? di kuda desel seinget ane ada tuh,.
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ak4ng wrote:kl kabel / tali yg bisa di tarik di bawah stir tu apa ya?? di kuda desel seinget ane ada tuh,.
Itu tali kekang buat kuda nya k4ng :mky_07:
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ane kira tali iketan buat luwak biar jangan kabur tuh dak.. :big_weee: :big_weee:
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Pantherlah............... :ngacir:
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Kuda diesel lha.... :mky_08:

Empuk, AC bikin beku (depan fan speed 1, belakang fan speed 1, temp diset paling dingin), peredaman suara dan panas bagus banget, dan yang penting....KENCHANGNG... 130kpj sangat mudah dapetnya...plus..kaki kakinya baru sekali ini ganti sejak 2002. Ganti di taun 2011, itu pun karena bapakku pas muter balik terlalu cepat, malah hajar trotoar tinggi...
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Kalo nda hajar trotoar tinggi, mungkin masih awet tuh kaki kakinya.
Tapi udah ganti kok. Original.

Next step: Stel pompa solar, and check steering system.. Auk deh, p/s oil udah perna ganti pa blom... :big_slap:
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VanzMatic wrote:Kuda diesel lha.... :mky_08:

Empuk, AC bikin beku (depan fan speed 1, belakang fan speed 1, temp diset paling dingin), peredaman suara dan panas bagus banget, dan yang penting....KENCHANGNG... 130kpj sangat mudah dapetnya...plus..kaki kakinya baru sekali ini ganti sejak 2002. Ganti di taun 2011, itu pun karena bapakku pas muter balik terlalu cepat, malah hajar trotoar tinggi...
:big_slap:

Kalo nda hajar trotoar tinggi, mungkin masih awet tuh kaki kakinya.
Tapi udah ganti kok. Original.

Next step: Stel pompa solar, and check steering system.. Auk deh, p/s oil udah perna ganti pa blom... :big_slap:
om Vanz, Kuda ku gen 1 taun 2001 kemaren ane coba perjalanan dari kota Lamongan ke Kediri
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