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bener kak. rav itu lebih ke "recreational activity vehicle". emang kelasnya lebih ke cross over daripada ke SUV. tidak ada low gear, tapi ada diff lock di transfer case.

sementara terios, yang kabarnya kelanjutan dari the legend taft, masih membawa low gear di versi 4WD nya yang sayang tidak dimasukkan oleh DAM dan TAM...
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maskopat wrote:sementara terios, yang kabarnya kelanjutan dari the legend taft, masih membawa low gear di versi 4WD nya yang sayang tidak dimasukkan oleh DAM dan TAM...
aih2..coba dong dibaca lg dng seksama.... :cupss:
The Terios' full-time 4WD system provides a fixed 50:50 front-to-rear torque split. Although it lacks a proper low-range transmission, it does have an electronically-controlled locking centre differential (activated by a switch on the fascia) to assist off-road

sumber : http://www.motorbar.co.uk/terios.htm
berarti terios gak ada low gearnya mas....
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uuupsss.... :oops:
maap kak... :cupss:
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eits....kok jadi adu kumis begini...... :cupss:

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ups, ane salah inget rupanya... ternyata rushter bukan sebagai pengganti taft.. sori... :e-doh:
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seinget saya, selepas krismon harga taft rocky jadi 300jt an....... :D
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taft... itu baru namanya mobil offroad.... namanya aja uda taft, mirip ama tough.... rush terios mahhh kalah jauhhh lah lawan dia... suspensi depan blakang masi per daun, as gede, body jg mendukung buat medan offroad...
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@ nyang diatas

lu pada oon kalau ngak ngerti jangan cuap-cuap soal low gear .. stupeed

NAH SEKARANG GUE BANDINGAN X-TRAIL LAWAN LOW GEAR TERIOS APALAGI LIVINA

low gear = kemampuan merayap, nanjak dijalan offroad.
dari http://www.webejeepin.com/Gears.htm katanya "... Lower gear ratios have larger numbers (e.g., a gear ratio of 4.56-to-1 is lower than a ratio of 3.07-to-1). The lower your gear ratio, the more torque (or force) your machine will produce....:

artinya semakin besar gear rasio semaking low gear dia

"...There are 3 major gear sets in your 4x4 that define its performance: 1) the transmission, 2) the transfer case, and 3) the gears inside your axles (which are housed within the differentials). One popular measure of your rig's trail capability is its crawl ratio. A crawl ratio is the lowest combined reduction you can get from your rig by putting it into first gear, low range. Crawl ratio is calculated by multiplying your transmission's first gear, times your transfer case's low range, times your axles' gear ratio. For example: a stock TJ Sport with an AX-15 manual tranny (3.83-to-1 first gear), an NP231 (2.72 low range), and 3.07 gears in the diffs has a crawl ratio of 32-to-1 (3.83 times 2.72 times 3.07 = 31.97). The higher the numerical representation of your crawl ratio, the slower your Jeep will go.


artinya "..... semakin besar gear rasio mewakili kemampuan crawling / kemampuan offroad /nanjak mobil ente.."

PERBANDINGAN LEBIH BESAR RASIO LEBIH LOW GEAR LAGI DIA LEBIH MAMPU NANJAK (crawl rasio) meskipun akibatnya the slower your jeep (baca terios) will go

dari http://www.allpar.com/model/jeep/grand- ... -2005.html diketahui JEEP CHEROKEE RASIO LOW GEAR-NYA 1:3,5 untuk mercedes dan 1:3,0 chrysleer (cherokee)

truck sampah (penarik buatan besar) RASIO LOW GEARNYA HAMPIR SAMA DENGAN rasio low gear pada TERIOS !! LIHAT
http://www.ritchiespecs.com/specificati ... lid=104344

RASIO LOW GIR TRUCK 1 : 3.5

karena dari website diatas diketahui semakin besar perbandingan rasio gigi satu semakin TANGGUH DIA UNTUK CRAWLING UNTUK OFFROAD


SEKARANG bandingkan rasio gigi satu TERIOS yang sama sengan rasio gigi satu truk sampah !!! dengan rasio gigi satu NON LOW GEAR nisssan X-TRAIL (apalagi livina )

dari http://www.indomobilfinance.com/spesifi ... on=bandung

lihat rasio gigi satu X-TRAIL adalah cuman 1: 2,785 bandingkan dengan TERIOS yang LOW GEARNYA sama dengan TRUCK
dari http://www.daihatsu.co.id/product/05_a_ ... p?p=Terios

rasio gigi satu terios 1: 3,769 (manual)

KEMAMPUAN CRAWLING /kemampuan offroad TERIOS diatas X-TRAIL !!!

Kemampuan gigi 1 terios mengalahkan kemampuan X-TRAIL dan kemampuan gigi satu terios bahkan diatas kemampuan TRUK SAMPAH

truk sampah 1:3,5 sedangkan terios 1:3.769 bahkan mengalahkan mercedes dan jeep chrysler diatas (chrysler 1:3,0)

dari tabel http://www.webejeepin.com/Gears.htm diketahui low gir dimulai dari yang terendah 1: 3,1

TERIOS IS DA BEST 1500 cc 4X2 SUV
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berarti lebih hebat APV gen 1 yah... gear 1 nya punya rasio 4,545 (terios kabarnya "cuman" 3,769).... :frm_tumbright:
mantap, APV lebih hebat untuk nanjak daripada terios... ah, untung kemarin kakak ane ambil APV...

oh ya, koq ngebandingin gear ratio terios manual dan xtrail matik sih... kalo terios matik dan xtrail matik gimana gear ratio nya? :ungg:

APV is better than the best SUV 4x2 for 1.5L engine...
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halahhh.... brisik aja..... terios mahh apa sehh hebatnya.... sini adu lawan ama panther aja... sama2 ngangkut beban ampe 1 ton, adu nanjak di nagrek.... atau start jalan di tanjakan pake gigi 2 di lembang dalam keadaan berpenumpang...
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Sithlord Sithlord...salam dr conan - katanya kangen ngebantai ente di SM :big_weee:
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jiah....2 tret isinya sama aja. bandingin terios ama GL. pake acara test offroad segala. :e-doh:
ya jelas beda lah, jenisnya aja da beda. peruntukannya juga beda. bandingin ratio gear terios dg x trail? gak keliru tuh? yg satu manual yg satu lagi automatic. :e-naughty:
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avp ngk pernah 1:454 low girnya

dan avp didisain bukan untuk all roads /offroads ngak ada satupun SUV yang mesinnya dibawah :big_peace:
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betterworld wrote:avp ngk pernah 1:454 low girnya

dan avp didisain bukan untuk all roads /offroads ngak ada satupun SUV yang mesinnya dibawah :big_peace:
Lagi2 BW muncul.. , pertanda akan kacau nih forum...
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betterworld wrote:avp ngk pernah 1:454 low girnya

dan avp didisain bukan untuk all roads /offroads ngak ada satupun SUV yang mesinnya dibawah :big_peace:
baca disini ya om... http://suzuki.co.id/ :big_smoking:

avp memang bukan buat offroad. tapi kalo cuma lewatin jalan pedesaan (jalan semi offroad lho) masih mampu kok. gw da buktiin sendiri waktu kerja di kupang NTT. gw survey lokasi kerjaan pake mobil apv. karena mobil taft blom sampe. jalan pedesaannya gak da yg diaspal. masih batu. :big_smoking:

dah ah..closed aja ni trit. da OOT kemana2. :e-snooty:
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@ atas

tutup thread ? BIAR ENTE KETAHUAN BOONGNYA YA hahahhaha

payah marketing emang suka booong dan kebohongan ini parah !!

gue udah cek ngak ada tuh ?

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ok betul berani AVP tuh punya kekuatan daya nanjak yang bagus

tapi bukan offroad karena offroad 4X2 disamping daya nanjak harus juga independent suspensinya (terios independen suspensi depan dan pengerak roda belakang ) yang bagus untuk 4x2 offroad tapi kayaknya APV bukan untuk ini
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betterworld wrote:@ atas

tutup thread ? BIAR ENTE KETAHUAN BOONGNYA YA hahahhaha

payah marketing emang suka booong dan kebohongan ini parah !!

gue udah cek ngak ada tuh ?

BOONG DI THREAD TRUS BILANG TUTUP AJA THREADNYA
lo bacanya gak teliti ya? baca di apv GA/GE. jangan yg di apv arena /luxury.
liat 1st gearnya 4,545. bandingin dg 1st gear terios yang 3,769.
gak ketemu juga? masa perlu gw ajarin cara liatnya? :mrgreen:

kok gaya bicara lo kayak gw kenal nih.... beda sedikit dibilang sales/marketing :e-doh:

gw cuma bilang tutup aja nih tret karena da OOT. terserah momod mw ditutup apa kagak. gak sah sewot lah...pake bawa2 marketing segala. :e-naughty:
betterworld wrote:ok betul berani AVP tuh punya kekuatan daya nanjak yang bagus

tapi bukan offroad karena offroad 4X2 disamping daya nanjak harus juga independent suspensinya (terios independen suspensi depan dan pengerak roda belakang ) yang bagus untuk 4x2 offroad tapi kayaknya APV bukan untuk ini
gw gak bilang apv untuk offroad. gw cuma bilang kalo apv bisa diajak lalui jalan pedesaan yg masih batu. baca yg bener ya. :mrgreen:
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betterworld wrote:@ atas

tutup thread ? BIAR ENTE KETAHUAN BOONGNYA YA hahahhaha

payah marketing emang suka booong dan kebohongan ini parah !!

gue udah cek ngak ada tuh ?

BOONG DI THREAD TRUS BILANG TUTUP AJA THREADNYA

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@dino_lowrider : hehehe....
emang kacau bro...dari cuma minta saran sampe bahas low gear+offroad. maksud dan tujuan TS gak tercapai. :D
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eh, pertanyaan ane belum dijawab nih... terios matik, gear ratio nya berapa ya? dan xtrail matik berapa ya? :e-think:
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@ om kopat : ratio gear terios 4x2 matic : http://www.daihatsu.co.id/product/05_a_ ... p?p=Terios
gigi 1 : 2.731
gigi 2 : 1.526
gigi 3 : 1.000
gigi 4 : 0.696
Mundur : 2.290
Rasio gigi akhir : 5.857

kalo u/ xtrail matic gak nemu om. :ungg:
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Dino_lowrider wrote:
betterworld wrote:@ atas

tutup thread ? BIAR ENTE KETAHUAN BOONGNYA YA hahahhaha

payah marketing emang suka booong dan kebohongan ini parah !!

gue udah cek ngak ada tuh ?

BOONG DI THREAD TRUS BILANG TUTUP AJA THREADNYA

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@ atas

eh bener tuh APV punya low gear dengan perbandingan yang tinggi 1:4,545 dan karena terlalu tinggi range rasio girnya makanya APV rentan terkena masalah diseputar masuk gigi

gue udah browsing kalau ngak seimbang rasionya gearnya atau komponen seputar gear bisa terkena masalah silahkan ente browing


http://bengkelgratis.com/index.php?opti ... unc=fb_pdf

http://www.modifikasi.com/archive/index ... 79618.html

truck atau jeep wrangler rata-rata 1:3.5 low girnya udah lumayan, mercedes 1:3,0
terios 1:367 tapi APV KETINGGIAN 1:455 makanya APV rentan terkena masalah masuk gigi karena terlalu tinggi rangenya

saran buat pengguna APV: ganti oli transmisi jangan pernah terlambat bahkan lebih cepat lebih bagus biar ente moga-moga awet giginya

gue waktu itu browsing masalah gir rasio yang terlalu tinggi bahaya, gue lupa alamat situsnya cari sendiri karena tugas gue bukan nyari-nyari yang ngak ada hubungannya dengan boil terios gue
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betterworld wrote:@ atas

eh bener tuh APV punya low gear dengan perbandingan yang tinggi 1:4,545 dan karena terlalu tinggi range rasio girnya makanya APV rentan terkena masalah diseputar masuk gigi

gue udah browsing kalau ngak seimbang rasionya gearnya atau komponen seputar gear bisa terkena masalah silahkan ente browing


http://bengkelgratis.com/index.php?opti ... unc=fb_pdf

http://www.modifikasi.com/archive/index ... 79618.html

truck atau jeep wrangler rata-rata 1:3.5 low girnya udah lumayan, mercedes 1:3,0
terios 1:367 tapi APV KETINGGIAN 1:455 makanya APV rentan terkena masalah masuk gigi karena terlalu tinggi rangenya

saran buat pengguna APV: ganti oli transmisi jangan pernah terlambat bahkan lebih cepat lebih bagus biar ente moga-moga awet giginya

gue waktu itu browsing masalah gir rasio yang terlalu tinggi bahaya, gue lupa alamat situsnya cari sendiri karena tugas gue bukan nyari-nyari yang ngak ada hubungannya dengan boil terios gue
rasio APV 1.454 itu ketinggian (hi) atau kerendahan (low) ? hayoo jawab....?? :upss:
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PERTAMAX...dibeberapa page sebelumnya anda begitu massiv dan panjang lebar menjelaskan ttg hubungan antara crawling ability versus gear ratio.
OK, saya sependapat dng anda bahwa semakin besar rasionya (low) <------mudah2an ente gak bingung :mrgreen: , maka crawling ability makin meningkat. Tapi anda sendiri masih rancu antara crawling ability dng offroad ability... :e-snooty: :e-snooty:

offroad ability merupakan result dari beberapa aspek, seperti power mesin, ground clearance, traksi roda, dll.......crawling ability adalah salah satu aspek dr offroad ability. jadi ini berarti mobil yang jago di tanjakan blm tentu mampu offroad....tetapi mobil offroad sudah tentu kuat ditanjakan..... :off_good:

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KEDUAX... anda sendiri jg berkoar2 tentang LOW GEAR, tapi anda sendiri masih keblinger dan tidak bisa membedakan mana transmission gear, transfer case gear dan final gear. Semuanya anda claim sebagai LOW GEAR.... :mrgreen: Saking keblingernya, rasio transfer case gear truk sampah Mack anda compare dng rasio gigi 1 Terios....(transfer case gear vs transmission gear :mrgreen: ) Padahal anda sendiri blm tentu tau berapa rasio gigi 1 truk mack dan rasio final gearnya..... :e-snooty: :e-snooty:

Jika anda memang fans Terios 4x4, coba anda sebutkan berapa rasio Transfer Case gearnya.....?? Kalo memang ada opsi Hi/Lo, sebutkan rasio HI berapa dan Lo berapa....?? :D

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KETIGAX....karena Terios adalah sebuah SUV maka jangan anda anggap suspensinya sama dng SUV atau mbl yg lain :e-naughty: , Suspensi Terios itu McPherson + Coil spring (depan) dan Rigid axle + Coil spring (belakang), suspensi innova, xtrail, fortuner, landcruiser dan truk sampah Mack itu berbeda konstruksinya dng Terios. Justru malah suspensi APV yang sama konstruksinya dng Terios....*)silahkan ngolong dan buktikan sendiri.... :D

sudahlah Mas bw....masih banyak selling point lain/sisi positif dr Terios yg bs anda jelaskan disini, daripada anda menjelaskan sesuatu secara masiv tapi anda sendiri masih keblinger, ujung2nya malah memojokan diri anda sendiri...... :D
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