Grand Livina terbakar di Tol Kebon Jeruk

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iwang wrote:ajaib jg mubil baru sih. atau mungkin modip2 kali yeh, pengirit bbm gitu dah. kalo kelistrikan biasa (awdio atau lampu misalnya) kan paling korslet dan sikring putus. separah2nya mogok doang. kalo sampe kebakar berarti itu percikan nyampe ke bensin atau oli powersteering.
kalo saya sih ambil hikmahnya aja pak...selama itu masih "human-made", pasti ada resiko "human-error"nya juga... :shrug:
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Gout denger nih kabarnye. Pernah jg tuh liat kia carnival kebakar di tol kbn jeruk.

bisa jadi gara2 ada yg korslet nih.
yg demen modif audio, kudu hati2, cari installer yg rapih. Soalnya kan ada fuse yg ditaro di ruang mesin. Bisa jg kabel ground kendor atau gimane. Ga jauh ama yg listrik2 dah...
Belum lagi kalo kepala kabel kendor di aki, bisa mercikin api. Ngomong2, klo kendor, kepala nya bisa memerah lho..panas bgt dah, bisa nyala juga. Gout pernah kok susah distarter, ternyata kendor, terus pala aki nya panas banget.
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cruizer wrote:Gout denger nih kabarnye. Pernah jg tuh liat kia carnival kebakar di tol kbn jeruk.

bisa jadi gara2 ada yg korslet nih.
yg demen modif audio, kudu hati2, cari installer yg rapih. Soalnya kan ada fuse yg ditaro di ruang mesin. Bisa jg kabel ground kendor atau gimane. Ga jauh ama yg listrik2 dah...
Belum lagi kalo kepala kabel kendor di aki, bisa mercikin api. Ngomong2, klo kendor, kepala nya bisa memerah lho..panas bgt dah, bisa nyala juga. Gout pernah kok susah distarter, ternyata kendor, terus pala aki nya panas banget.
Ternyata peringatan nggak boleh pake HP saat isi bensin sungguh tidak boleh diabaikan, karena pada saat isi bensin itu uapnya ke mana2, dan kita nggak tahu apakah HP kita sedang fit atau tidak, bagaimana jika di HP bisa terjadi percikan bunga api kecil? Trus kena uap bensinnya, dijamin langsung menyala. :off_no:
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Di thread2 livina disebutkan klo memodifikasi khususnya yang berhubungan dengan electrical memang agak riskan, ngga bisa sembarangan dan lebih save bila dilakukan bengkel resmi. Mungkin ini salah satu dugaan penyebab terjadinya api, ada modifikasi misal penggantian HU, penambahan foglamp, audio dll yg instalasinya kurang baik.....Mungkin lho... :ungg:
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arry_b wrote:Di thread2 livina disebutkan klo memodifikasi khususnya yang berhubungan dengan electrical memang agak riskan, ngga bisa sembarangan dan lebih save bila dilakukan bengkel resmi. Mungkin ini salah satu dugaan penyebab terjadinya api, ada modifikasi misal penggantian HU, penambahan foglamp, audio dll yg instalasinya kurang baik.....Mungkin lho... :ungg:
bukan cuma Livina, semua mobil juga harus hati2 soal modif yg berkaitan dg electrical.
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iwang wrote:harus ada fuel, heat sama oxygen. di tangki bensin ga ada heat dan oxygen makanya ga pada mledak mobil di jalanan
di ruang mesin sih kemungkinan terbesarnya, ada fuel, ada oxygen and lots of heat.
apa orangnya bawa benda yg menyala di dalem mobil? rokok?
seberapa besar sih kemungkinan ini :
pompa bensin (dicelupin ke tangki) yg kumparannya overheat ?...
atau kabel2 yg menuju ke pompa bensin itu konslet ?
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ada aja kemungkinan meledak, cuma kalo semudah itu tiap hari banyak tangki mobil meledak. soal kabel konslet, itu kan mengeluarkan percikan, sedang motor listrik jg pasti ada percikan di kumparannya, cuma sealingnya yang bagus (intrinsically safe), non sparking gitu lah. tentu sudah dipikirkan kemungkinan2nya.

mungkin terjadi, tapi kecil kemungkinannya, kabel jg kan ga nggantung di dalam tangki, karena motornya nancep dari atas tangki (semua kabel dan socket diluar.

tapi mengingat fuel meter/gauge lipina sempet di recall****, mungkin aja ada defect lain di bagian lain

****yang bahaya kan ginian, orang jadi mudah hilang kepercayaan..apalagi ada kompor menyala..hehe
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tentu saja tidak sebegitu mudahnya....
tapi, nampaknya potensi/kemungkinannya menjadi lbh cukup besar, dg pompa bensin (rotax) yg model celup gitu.

omong2, kalau yg busway (diesel) kebakar itu jg kenapa ya bisa begitu ?
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busway, seems kemungkinan besar bersumber dari tabung bahan bakar gas nya
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diesel bro
kata drivernya (perempuan): udah mulai berasa ada yg gak beres di senayan, maka dia dilarikan dg tergesa2 ke blok M..begitu nyampe blok M, terbakarlah
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oh... selama ini gw kira busway yg diesel itu juga pakai bahanbakar gas lho.... :e-doh:
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ha3x... bagaimana bisa logika begitu rupa..
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kan bus2 itu perlu mesin torsi besar, jadi tetep pake diesel meskipun yg logo "BBG", gitu deh...
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oo..kalau itu, berarti kebalik dong.... seharusnya "selama ini gw kira busway yg BBG tu mesinnya diesel juga".

anyway, kalau yg terbakar (terakhir) itu adlh busway gen-1 warna merah dr koridor I (blokM-sudirman-kota).. dg mesin & bahanbakar diesel.
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iya, udah diralatin deh sama bos..
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memang pake hp sewaktu isi bensin ga bisa diremehkan. pernah kejadian pom bensin terbakar di aussie, oleh krn pemakaian hp. sejak itu di sana tiap pom lsg ada sticker hp di coret.
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IMO bila diesel sampai kebakaran itu benar2 parah deh, bukannya solar itu selain tidak bisa terbakar langsung juga harus ada medianya baru bisa kebakar. CMIIW

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Mungkin gara2 niru2 pelem Death Race, jadinya kebakaran beneran....


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esh wrote:IMO bila diesel sampai kebakaran itu benar2 parah deh, bukannya solar itu selain tidak bisa terbakar langsung juga harus ada medianya baru bisa kebakar. CMIIW

Bagaimana pendapat pakar minyak kita? :mrgreen:
Gw dulu waktu SMA pernah sebentar pake taft GT...dan kalo ngisi solar mesin gak pernah dimatiin. Yg jaga juga gak pernah ngomong apa2 lagi.......
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maka dari itu....
benar2 menjadi mengherankan melihat ada busway dg BBM solar kok bisa terbakar .... :e-think:
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Hoi.. hoi... ini kan bahasan ttg grand livina, koq jadi buswae sih....

Momod.. Back to topic please...

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wakakakkakakakkaka....
dimarahin sama mr posting euy !
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Bukannya masih dalam topik mobil terbakar om anjas? :shrug:
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Pegimane nih ada kelanjutan dari info soal kebakaran ini? Penasaran pingin tau kenapa.