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conan wrote: Mr. Datsu, kalau Anda perhatikan, model2 Scion adalah versi rebadged dari model2 unik Toyota JDM, kecuali Scion Tc yang khusus untuk pasar USA dan sepertinya dirancang oleh tim design disana.

Untuk Land Cruiser, kalau untuk generasi sebelumnya Lexus LX adalah LandCruiser Cygnus tapi untuk generasi sekarang design mereka berbeda, new Lexus LX sudah diumumkan sementara Land Cruiser belum.
Hmm, Bung Conan, kalau Scion generasi terbaru 2008 Xb dan Xd masih model JDM apa sudah americanized ya ? Xb terbaru sepertinya sudah lebih besar ya dengan mesin 2.4l milik toyota camry... Tapi Scion itu unique juga ya positioningnya di US, kalau masuk indo bisa laku tidak ya kira2 ?
Betul Mr. Boilers, sudah Americanized, tapi kalau diperhatikan, basisnya adalah model2 JDM Toyota.
Kalau untuk pasar Indo, TAM akan sulit memposisikan Scion. Kalau di USA, Scion ditujukan untuk pasar anak muda, dan harganya relatif lebih murah daripada Toyota. Kalau di Indo, Toyota termurah adalah Avanza yang kelasnya jelas di bawah Scion. Jadi, boleh dibilang bahwa yang menjadi 'Scion Indonesia', tidak lain adalah Daihatsu.

Btw kalau Anda tertarik Scion, bisa cari model JDM yang menjadi basisnya, dan bisa cari apakah ada IU yang menjual model tersebut. Rasanya aku ingat pernah lihat iklan salah satu IU.
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Scion setau gw ada yg Toyota Ist... xA kalo ga salah

ga tau deh..kurang minat ama Scion

lebi minat lexus. hihihi
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Cakep ya. Tapi design belakang masih kaya altis lama.
Saatnya konsumer lebih kritis.....beli sesuai dengan hati nurani...biarpun bermerek tapi mahal tidak sesuai harga.....dan jangan pernah dibohongin dengan alasan2 yang aneh lagi.....go konsumer Indonesia
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Toyota memang sedang mengembangkan beberapa model individual dengan beberapa merek juga.

Scion berbasis JDM dan untuk pasar USA, dan Lexus tidak lagi berbasis mobil Toyota JDM.

Scion untuk pasar Asia Tenggara kemungkinan tidak direncanakan, atau setidaknya tidak dalam waktu dekat
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Lampu belakangnya sich bener..masih bagusan Altis Skr..Anyway, Toyota skr ngegedein Grill yak, trus lampunya jg mulai sipit2x tuw..Untuk interior sich memang sudah ciri khas Toyota..agak konservatif, memang kurang cocok kl sama yg suka dengan "keajaiban", lagian Toyota ga terlalu expert buat bikin "keajaiban", ga kaya Honda...Pokoknya ni boil Corolla banget deh, utk Body ga terlalu banyak berubah dr Altis skr..Bener, ni mobil lawan berat All New Civic, kl buat Tenaga sich paling mirip2x lah, kl lbh gede pasti hrg lebih mahal..Liat aja civic 1.8 dgn 2.0..kita liat aja TAM mau ngeluarin ga..BTW, gw sich lg ngimpi punya All New Civic Sedan TYPE-R yg belum lama ini di launch nich, itu baru Sedan ha..ha.... :e-clap:
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bagus... cuma belakangnya aja altis look
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patut ditunggu nih... :mad: tapi kapan yah? :roll:
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Rencananya akhir tahun semester 2 TAM masukkin. MOga2 ada disc besar2an untuk altis lama untuk buang stok.
Saatnya konsumer lebih kritis.....beli sesuai dengan hati nurani...biarpun bermerek tapi mahal tidak sesuai harga.....dan jangan pernah dibohongin dengan alasan2 yang aneh lagi.....go konsumer Indonesia
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darimana lu denger? :roll:
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Dari sales AUTO2000 di Amplas. Oh ya anda di medan juga kan.
Saatnya konsumer lebih kritis.....beli sesuai dengan hati nurani...biarpun bermerek tapi mahal tidak sesuai harga.....dan jangan pernah dibohongin dengan alasan2 yang aneh lagi.....go konsumer Indonesia
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iya bener, gw di Medan...

wah berarti dah mo masuk donk Altis barunya? :e-clap:
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makin mahal aja pastinya....
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Pasti ada spec down agar bisa bersaing dengan harga all new civic ntar
Saatnya konsumer lebih kritis.....beli sesuai dengan hati nurani...biarpun bermerek tapi mahal tidak sesuai harga.....dan jangan pernah dibohongin dengan alasan2 yang aneh lagi.....go konsumer Indonesia
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Omongan sales jangan dipercaya.. sales auto2000 sunter bilang mau keluar di IIMS.. sales auto2000 asaf bandung bilang tahun 2008.. ah.. mending tunggu berita di thailand dulu aja.. kalo udah kelaur di thailand, spek bagus, baru inden.. paling lama 2 bulan udah launching di indo..
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i'm waiting........ :p
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menurut gue,design sedan line up toyota dagangan tam sekarang jelek2.....yaris,vios & new altis bentuknya aneh.....bentuknya masih lebih bagus versi lamanya......yang jadi lebih baik cuma camry doang.......
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ween wrote:menurut gue,design sedan line up toyota dagangan tam sekarang jelek2.....yaris,vios & new altis bentuknya aneh.....bentuknya masih lebih bagus versi lamanya......yang jadi lebih baik cuma camry doang.......
Considering all the cars above are huge sellers di mana mana (bukan di Indonesia saja), mungkin selera anda yg "unik" hehehe...
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FortunerMan wrote:
ween wrote:menurut gue,design sedan line up toyota dagangan tam sekarang jelek2.....yaris,vios & new altis bentuknya aneh.....bentuknya masih lebih bagus versi lamanya......yang jadi lebih baik cuma camry doang.......
Considering all the cars above are huge sellers di mana mana (bukan di Indonesia saja), mungkin selera anda yg "unik" hehehe...

Yup..gw setuju sama pendapat diatas..Toyota memang mobil sejuta umat..biarpun beberapa modelnya menurut gw agak nyeleneh
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Toyota kok nyeleneh? bukannya 'main aman' dan cenderung konvensional? kecuali beberapa model seperti Sera, Prius, pokoknya yg jarang saingan langsungnya
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Bukan begitu memang desain TOYOTA sedan terlepas dari CAMRY memang biasa2 aja. Apalagi new Altis ntar hanya biasa2 aja dibanding CIVIC. Yang menjadi poin huge selling TOYOTA mungkin durable, image dan resale valuenya
Saatnya konsumer lebih kritis.....beli sesuai dengan hati nurani...biarpun bermerek tapi mahal tidak sesuai harga.....dan jangan pernah dibohongin dengan alasan2 yang aneh lagi.....go konsumer Indonesia
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justru civic yg kata gw jadi jelek2 modelnya

gak semanis generasi ferio
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Post by boilers »

Iya, imo juga design Toyota itu kurang bagus ya (except new camry :)), apalagi model barunya dengan logo yang seperti benjolan itu, hehehe :D ...

Tapi kalau ngomong design emang susah sih, kan subjektif bgt... Soalnya Toyota itu memang modelnya laris manis di mana2....
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Hmm...
Bentuknya makin Elegant yah....

Kayaknya Corolla dah mulai diposisikan utk konsumen yg lebih Mature.
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