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Viral baru gembar gembor seperti biasa. Jd bwat apa sertifikasi uji layak jalan :mky_03:

Prediksi ane finalnya paling setuju recall, tp t&c apply. Nah t&c nya ini yg bakalan ghoib menyulitkan bwat recall :mky_03:
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Ya kalau sampe recall juga ganti nya sama toh pake Esaf juga bukan tuker ke rangka tubular. Atau bisa jadi cuman dilas ulang bagian yg rawan patah nya. Kayak mobil jepang mana gitu yg proses welding kurang titik las.
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KSG88 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:08 Ya kalau sampe recall juga ganti nya sama toh pake Esaf juga bukan tuker ke rangka tubular. Atau bisa jadi cuman dilas ulang bagian yg rawan patah nya. Kayak mobil jepang mana gitu yg proses welding kurang titik las.
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KSG88 wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:08 Ya kalau sampe recall juga ganti nya sama toh pake Esaf juga bukan tuker ke rangka tubular. Atau bisa jadi cuman dilas ulang bagian yg rawan patah nya. Kayak mobil jepang mana gitu yg proses welding kurang titik las.
raize rocky :big_grin:

itu dia kasusnya sama kyk esaf

bukan titik welding kurang, tapi QC jelek

itu di apron kan banyak titik las, cuma mencang mencong
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ini kasus sebenarnya ga ribet2 amat sih
tinggal pertebal area yg rawah patah atau perbaiki QC

paling lagi nego sama pemerintah supaya ga recall

:big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: :big_biglaugh: keingat sama Honda HRV awal2 rilis kakinya masalah, bolak balik bengkel terus solusi yang dikasih dari Honda

teknik sales marketing dalam hadapin masalah emang beda
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Salvanost wrote:
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Ya kaan yg pelihara AHM cust. sendiri... semua beli honda sampe merek sebelah megap megap. Kalo sudah dominan gini ya EGP mereka, lo mau lo beli, lo ga mau ngojek saja wkwkwk.
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Punya beat 2020, berapa kali service dibilangin diarea belakang kayak bunyi kresh2 gitu. Di cek gakpapa kok Pak, aman. Belum 3 tahun bearing cvt udah gak bisa berputar. Mana pas jauh dari AHASS lagi. Pas dikomplen bilang bapak jarang service sih. Lha tiap service dibilangin masalahnya gak ketemu. Ok2 aja katanya. Lagian memang pas service ada dicek bearing cvtnya? Padahal Mio adek daei tahun 2012 aja gak ada masalah. Sering dipake boncengan over load. Dari beli 2012 baru 2020 ganti belting cvt
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Harga motor honda 2nd yg rangka esaf turun 1juta rupiah
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Ini kasus kayaknya jadi lebih besar drpd dulu duo R R yg dudukan sokbeker depannya perlu di las ulang..mungkin dulu yg duo RR jumlah unit lebih sedikit & responsif cari solusi
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MSU wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:31 Ini kasus kayaknya jadi lebih besar drpd dulu duo R R yg dudukan sokbeker depannya perlu di las ulang..mungkin dulu yg duo RR jumlah unit lebih sedikit & responsif cari solusi
Massa pengguna AHM jauh lbh bnyk, dibanding TAM/ADM :big_biglaugh:

Mau keluar brp duit AHM? buat hire buzzerp yg bs neutralize negative sentiment di jejak digital :big_biglaugh:
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Suryaputra wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 9:57
MSU wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:31 Ini kasus kayaknya jadi lebih besar drpd dulu duo R R yg dudukan sokbeker depannya perlu di las ulang..mungkin dulu yg duo RR jumlah unit lebih sedikit & responsif cari solusi
Massa pengguna AHM jauh lbh bnyk, dibanding TAM/ADM :big_biglaugh:

Mau keluar brp duit AHM? buat hire buzzerp yg bs neutralize negative sentiment di jejak digital :big_biglaugh:
lagian itu toyodai kaga nyuruh beli sasis baru, dan lgsg kasih solusi yg bener

itu blundernya AHM, mana dia ngaku lg klo emg kualitas kurang

buktinya duo RR masi adem ayem aja kan sampe skrg :big_biglaugh:

skrg jadi pertanyaan ya plg, apakah saving cost di sisi produksi tsb worth dengan kasus segede gini :big_biglaugh:
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darrelund wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 14:45
Suryaputra wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 9:57
MSU wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 8:31 Ini kasus kayaknya jadi lebih besar drpd dulu duo R R yg dudukan sokbeker depannya perlu di las ulang..mungkin dulu yg duo RR jumlah unit lebih sedikit & responsif cari solusi
Massa pengguna AHM jauh lbh bnyk, dibanding TAM/ADM :big_biglaugh:

Mau keluar brp duit AHM? buat hire buzzerp yg bs neutralize negative sentiment di jejak digital :big_biglaugh:
lagian itu toyodai kaga nyuruh beli sasis baru, dan lgsg kasih solusi yg bener

itu blundernya AHM, mana dia ngaku lg klo emg kualitas kurang

buktinya duo RR masi adem ayem aja kan sampe skrg :big_biglaugh:

skrg jadi pertanyaan ya plg, apakah saving cost di sisi produksi tsb worth dengan kasus segede gini :big_biglaugh:
Info dr kawan yg perna kerja di sono, bagian cost control.

Goalsnya adalah: standar minimum quality tercapai.. kalau perlu standarnya turunin lagi selama warga ga sadar.

Brp orang sih yg care sama masalah sasis? :big_biglaugh:
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kasus batok geter 2jz versi motor aja ga beres beres sampe skrg , dirumah ada tahun 2015 baru pake 8 tahun aja udh berasep tuh knalpot , padahal dlu pelihara tahun 2001 aja lebih tahan lama , hadehhhh qualitynya jaman now
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Udah ada yg cek rangka yamaha juga ada silicate
Dan udah ada kok bandingin rangka Esaf sama non Esaf emang berkarat dua duanya, jadi bukan masalah rangka berkarat apa ga berkarat

Tapi kayanya rangka Esaf emang lebih gampang keropos...
Ini catnya masih nempel tapi udah keropos dalamnya...

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b0ku wrote:
bangrosi wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 15:27 Apakah versi ekspor mengalami masalah yg sama, soalnya yg rangka esaf V160 bahkan sampai di ekspor ke negara asalnya.
so far saya cari gak ada saya ud ubek2x di pridavan juga gak ada, ni motor katanya di ekspor ke philipine disana pun gak ada :big_bored:
Kalo di thailand dan Philippin namanya Click 160.tapi gk tau itu buatan lokal atau ekspor dari sini...
MSU wrote:kalo di mobil ya...harusnya kan teknik ngelas-nya sama...tp koq aman2 aja ya..
apa qc lebih bagus atau ada teknologi lainnya?
Mobil sasisnya di celup anti karat,coba aja lihat video produksi pembuatan mobil.
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Goreng terusss dalaman rangka umur 2 bulan
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Salvanost wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2023 5:27 Goreng terusss dalaman rangka umur 2 bulan
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Nah saya tadi baru aja nonton video ini..
Miris sekali rangka umur 2 bulan, sama yg scoopy baru umur 3th, tapi rangka bagian dalemnya dah muncul tanda2 karat? :e-think:

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OOT ...
Kualitas manusia jaman now aja degradasi, pastilah hasil fabrikasi ikutan degradasi :ngacir: :ngacir: :ngacir:
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bangrosi wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 19:13
b0ku wrote:
bangrosi wrote: Wed Aug 23, 2023 15:27 Apakah versi ekspor mengalami masalah yg sama, soalnya yg rangka esaf V160 bahkan sampai di ekspor ke negara asalnya.
so far saya cari gak ada saya ud ubek2x di pridavan juga gak ada, ni motor katanya di ekspor ke philipine disana pun gak ada :big_bored:
Kalo di thailand dan Philippin namanya Click 160.tapi gk tau itu buatan lokal atau ekspor dari sini...
MSU wrote:kalo di mobil ya...harusnya kan teknik ngelas-nya sama...tp koq aman2 aja ya..
apa qc lebih bagus atau ada teknologi lainnya?
Mobil sasisnya di celup anti karat,coba aja lihat video produksi pembuatan mobil.
Klo yg diekspor, beda kualitas, beda pabrik, beda QC om..
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Suryaputra wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 15:45
darrelund wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 14:45 lagian itu toyodai kaga nyuruh beli sasis baru, dan lgsg kasih solusi yg bener

itu blundernya AHM, mana dia ngaku lg klo emg kualitas kurang

buktinya duo RR masi adem ayem aja kan sampe skrg :big_biglaugh:

skrg jadi pertanyaan ya plg, apakah saving cost di sisi produksi tsb worth dengan kasus segede gini :big_biglaugh:
Info dr kawan yg perna kerja di sono, bagian cost control.

Goalsnya adalah: standar minimum quality tercapai.. kalau perlu standarnya turunin lagi selama warga ga sadar.

Brp orang sih yg care sama masalah sasis? :big_biglaugh:
Santai lah… Motor bebek sama rangkanya gitu gitu kan emang buat market third world… wajar dikasih quality ampasan trus harga mahal ..

Sama kek di otomotif kelas low low low mpv low suv. Sampe ultimatenya si yarcrot dnga 450jt wkwkwkwkk

Principal dari headquarter jg mana peduli lah, yg penting bisa peres duit semaksimal mgkn dari customer :wkkk:

Intinya sebisa mungkin jgn beli produk CKD, tkdn tkdn bullsh*t sgala macem.. banyak ghoibnya :big_weee:
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KielConstantine wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:33
Suryaputra wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 15:45
darrelund wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 14:45 lagian itu toyodai kaga nyuruh beli sasis baru, dan lgsg kasih solusi yg bener

itu blundernya AHM, mana dia ngaku lg klo emg kualitas kurang

buktinya duo RR masi adem ayem aja kan sampe skrg :big_biglaugh:

skrg jadi pertanyaan ya plg, apakah saving cost di sisi produksi tsb worth dengan kasus segede gini :big_biglaugh:
Info dr kawan yg perna kerja di sono, bagian cost control.

Goalsnya adalah: standar minimum quality tercapai.. kalau perlu standarnya turunin lagi selama warga ga sadar.

Brp orang sih yg care sama masalah sasis? :big_biglaugh:
Santai lah… Motor bebek sama rangkanya gitu gitu kan emang buat market third world… wajar dikasih quality ampasan trus harga mahal ..

Sama kek di otomotif kelas low low low mpv low suv. Sampe ultimatenya si yarcrot dnga 450jt wkwkwkwkk

Principal dari headquarter jg mana peduli lah, yg penting bisa peres duit semaksimal mgkn dari customer :wkkk:

Intinya sebisa mungkin jgn beli produk CKD, tkdn tkdn bullsh*t sgala macem.. banyak ghoibnya :big_weee:
Trus jadinya jual baling2 kampret mau beli apa om ngeliat pasaran mbl baru mengenaskan kayak sekarang :mky_03:
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