[Tanya]Head-to-head Toyota New Vios G A/T vs Chevrolet Optra

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[Tanya]Head-to-head Toyota New Vios G A/T vs Chevrolet Optra

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Rekan2 SM-ers, di harga yg sebanding sudah ada belum ya yg mereview head-to-head New Vios 1.5 vs Optra Magnum 1.6?
Kalo menurut rekan2 di sini, bagaimana kualitas mesin, interior, fitur & biaya maintenance selama berjalan untuk kira2 5 tahun? (ga niat jual jg sih, jd niat pake truss :D)

Paling engga, afaik:
Mesin menang vios baik dari segi performa dan keiritan bahan bakar (ada yg tau performa optra magnum & konsumsi BB-nya,sama2 diisi premium, klaim GM sih 1:15, yah anggep aja 1:9-10 kali ya)... btw, VGIS itu apa ya? apa semacam VVT-i di Toyota?
Trus, matic-nya vios ama optra canggihan mana ya? atau sama2 aja?

Interior keliatannya lebih bagus Optra deh? bener ga? karena saya hanya liatnya sekilas aja...

Fitur & safety keliatannya sebanding (ABS, EBD, Airbag)... bahkan mungkin lebih banyak vios dengan HID dan immobilizer...

Biaya maintenance... ada yg tau biaya Optra? seberapa bedanya dibanding vios? semisal dibandingkan selama 3 tahun, ketika service xx ribu KM, vios mengeluarkan sekian dan optra sekian...

karena sebenarnya kalo optra ga beda jauh ama vios, saya lebih naksir optra...
Tidak memikirkan resale value... bahkan kalo ada diskon gede dari GM, maka optra bisa jd murah meriah...

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klo boleh tau, optra diskon brapa?
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-=dobel post, sorry=-
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MasterzerO wrote:klo boleh tau, optra diskon brapa?
pm sent... :)

btw, ayoo donk bro2 semua ngasih masukan... biar lebih afdhol nih... :D
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pm read..
Gw pribadi sih lebih milih optra soalnya lebih 'sedan' dibanding vios.
Cman di tempat gw ga ada BeRes Chevrolet.

Lagian dalemnya optra lebih mewah mnrt gw..
Klo diskonnya gedean optra, gw ambil optra deh..
Dgn catatan ga mikirin resale value.

Vote for Optra deh..
Optra Magnum kan?
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yup betul optra magnum...
seep deh, masukannya pas banget ama pikiran gw...
thx u ;)
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Ternyata kita sehati bro.. :big_peace:
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boss, kalo boleh tau, emang optra diskon brapa yah? thx
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sampe saat ini baru 5 jt... :(
padahal merk laen aja udah sampe belasan jt... ready stock pula...
jaah kayak begini bisa2 ambil merk laen nih...
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Pantesan minggu lalu liat taksi selebriti pakai Optra baru..
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di india laku banget tuh optra (soalnya ga ada vios) :D :D
dimana2 ada, dan relatif badak lah


disini persepsinya aja buruk..padahal mah kuat2 aja namanya mobil pasaran/ekonomi, sudah seperti komoditi..kurang lebih aja kualitasnya.

saya ke mesir juni lalu (cairo), 504 masih sliweran di padang pasir. padahal dsini image peugeot mah ancur2an.
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y_anjasrana wrote:Pantesan minggu lalu liat taksi selebriti pakai Optra baru..
jaah serius lu?? wadaow... rada ga enak jg nih...
tapi kalo beneran jd taksi rada lega juga, at least tanda nih mobil gampang maintenance dan cukup irit...
gila aja kalo ada taxi biasa pake mesin boros n spare part mahal...
iwang wrote:di india laku banget tuh optra (soalnya ga ada vios) :D :D
dimana2 ada, dan relatif badak lah

disini persepsinya aja buruk..padahal mah kuat2 aja namanya mobil pasaran/ekonomi, sudah seperti komoditi..kurang lebih aja kualitasnya.

saya ke mesir juni lalu (cairo), 504 masih sliweran di padang pasir. padahal dsini image peugeot mah ancur2an.
hoo vios ga masuk sana ya? di india jazz juga ga ada... :D :D
optra emang banyak ok-nya sih, cuman bayarannya itu (dibanding vios) konsumsi bensin ama resale value...
jd kalo emang mau pake ini emang bener2 buat dipake lama...
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btw, ada yg udah baca autocar juli 2008, optra vs vios vs baleno?
kalo ada yg punya, tolong post hasilnya donk, pengen tau jg nih komentar dari autocar...

gw cari majalahnya udah ga ketemu... :(
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wah, edisi lama y?
Susah nih nyarinya.. Gw jg ga langganan autocar..
Tar pulang nyari di toko koran deket rumah deh..
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evolve ini goro yah? pantesan nanya2 ama gw di YM.. hehehe...

skrng udha bisa tau jawabannya kan?
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MasterzerO wrote:wah, edisi lama y?
Susah nih nyarinya.. Gw jg ga langganan autocar..
Tar pulang nyari di toko koran deket rumah deh..
majalahnya udah dapet, dan hasilnya standar-lah, pasti udah pada tau jawabannya... ;)
datsu wrote:evolve ini goro yah? pantesan nanya2 ama gw di YM.. hehehe...

skrng udha bisa tau jawabannya kan?
ahahaha.. iya, gw liat ym lo, lhoo kok ym-nya familiar... tau-nya emang elo.. ahahaha... :D :D
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Chev optra? .. sbg option alternatif .. bisa pertimbangkan juga Proton Persona feature komplit harga 150jtan
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wah itu malah dari awal ada gen2 hatchback udah naksir berat...
bentuk eksotis banget... hanya gara2 liat ada gen2 parkir doank lngsng naksir n cari2 info...
taunya... yaah gitu dehh... :D :D

pa lagi selain eksterior, gw lebih mentingin interior & kenyamanan berkendara, 2 hal terakhir ga bs diakomodir ama gen2 baik versi hatchback maupun versi sedannya... kualitas interior payah, jok dlsb-nya kurang nyaman, keras...

kenapa optra masuk banget jadi pertimbangan, eksterior jelaslah, sedan banget...
interior paten banget... disain & kualitas material dasboard ok banget...
walau ga penting2 amat, cuman ac yg digital dan otomatis serta adanya coolbox itu bener2 asyik banget...:D mana ada 2 hal itu di mobil dibawah 200jt-an??

trus kenapa mempertimbangkan vios?? (yg dari eksteriornya, IMHO, ga banget..)
yg nyubyidi gw bilangnya vios aja... semua org sekitar dari bonyok, kk, om, temen, semua-lah... jelaslah mereka melihat value, after sales, resale value, kemudahan perawatan, FC dll (beda-lah penilaian ama gw yg berdasarkan nafsu semata )

yah sud-lah... :big_slap:
(lhoo malah jd curhat...)
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yaudah... ambil new city aja... *tapi gw bakal langsung bilang lo orang terkaya yang pernah ada, mau beli mobil kaleng mahal minim fitur, huehehe...*
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kalo mobil tua malah mahal om kalo dibilang bodi kaleng...hehehe (bd klg orisinil sp lr kt khusus penggemar bhs poskotanya :D)

mobil baru makin kaleng malah makin murahan..gampang peotlah, kempot, brisik di dalem dsb

makanya kemana2 saya parkir kl bawa merc e320 atau corona 72 pasti jadi tempat senderan tukang parkir..soalnya plat tebel ga bakalan penyok dan kang parkir tau, pasti ga pake alarm..hehe...

back to comparison, mending vios lah kemana2. mobil beginian desainnya bukan buat dinikmatin, lebih fokus ke fungsi dan biaya..dan financingnya (bisa kridit, syarat gampang).

vios baru ganteng ah, garis2nya bagus.fitur jg ok..irit dah pasti mesin 1NZFE. optra desain generik daewoo , dah mayan usang..yg baru VGIS. mesin jauh dah toyota lebih efesien, kaizennya jepang..ga bisa dilawan sama gm yang lamban.
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datsu wrote:yaudah... ambil new city aja... *tapi gw bakal langsung bilang lo orang terkaya yang pernah ada, mau beli mobil kaleng mahal minim fitur, huehehe...*
ahahaha... sayang gw masih waras... :big_peace:
iwang wrote:back to comparison, mending vios lah kemana2. mobil beginian desainnya bukan buat dinikmatin, lebih fokus ke fungsi dan biaya..dan financingnya (bisa kridit, syarat gampang).

vios baru ganteng ah, garis2nya bagus.fitur jg ok..irit dah pasti mesin 1NZFE. optra desain generik daewoo , dah mayan usang..yg baru VGIS. mesin jauh dah toyota lebih efesien, kaizennya jepang..ga bisa dilawan sama gm yang lamban.
yup, klo masalah praktisnya emang bener, dari fungsi, financing, maintenance dll...
masalah mesin pa lagi, vvti lah kemana2... (walau gw lebih suka mesin nissan yg ada di vina sih sebenernya... :D)

cumaan... klo masalah selera ini om yg sulit... namanya jg selera, maennya nafsu (*ahahahaha*), suka aja ama bentuknya optra, sedan banget, trus walau minim fitur (dibanding vios G A/T), cuman interiornya ok banget... vios lewat lah...
besides, gw udah mutusin kok, pilih vios (udah keren2 bandingin optra, baca2 review, nanya sana nanya sini eeh akhir2nya teteepp... vios lg vios lg... :big_slap: dasar gw ga punya pendirian... ahahaha... :big_peace: )

magnum... kutunggu jandamu... ahahaha... :big_peace:
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Good decision.
1. Optra ini Daewoo yang sudah usang, namanya di Amerika Suzuki Forenza. http://www.edmunds.com/suzuki/forenza/review.html
2. GM lagi diambang kebangkrutan.

Kalo mau real American sedan yang good value, lebih bagus (jauh) Ford Focus. Kalo mau sedan GM yang sudah jauh lebih bagus, tunggu Chevrolet Cruze aja.
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FortunerMan wrote:Good decision.
1. Optra ini Daewoo yang sudah usang, namanya di Amerika Suzuki Forenza. http://www.edmunds.com/suzuki/forenza/review.html
2. GM lagi diambang kebangkrutan.

Kalo mau real American sedan yang good value, lebih bagus (jauh) Ford Focus. Kalo mau sedan GM yang sudah jauh lebih bagus, tunggu Chevrolet Cruze aja.
waduh bukan yg itu, itu versi lama-nya, generasi 1 2003-2007...
baik chevrolet optra maupun suzuki forenza memang ngambil dari disain daewoo nubira/lacetti... cuman mesin beda aja, kalo optra dari holden pake 1.8...
nih mesin holden yg dipasang di bodi optra lebih banyak mudharatnya ketimbang manfaatnya... :big_peace:

kalo optra terbaru, generasi ke-2, dinamain optra magnum, bentuk lebih eksotis (IMO) ketimbang yg lama yg lebih bapak2 dan lebih serius... yg sekarang lebih "muda" dan elegan...
eksterior:
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interior:
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selain eksterior yg lebih ok, mesin juga jauh lebih bagus (baca:irit & performa ok :D) dibanding optra lama yg 1.8, cuman kalo dibanding mesin jp macam vvti, i-vtec masih kalah jauh sih...

kalo pengen liat2 lg yg lebih lengkap ada di situs india, cuman ati2 bandwith killer, full flash: http://www.chevroletoptramagnum.in/

sebagai pembanding, sekalian nampilin vios-lah :D
eksterior:
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interior:
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Ford Focus emang ok, cuman harganya yg ga oke... ahahaha... salah satu alasan optra magnum masuk pilihan karena harganya lebih murah dari vios... sama2 seri tertinggi matic beda 12jt-an... besides, budget rules... kudu dibawah 200jt... :D

cruze emang mantap (eksteriornya, ntah yg lain :p), lebih sporti, gw rasa bakal banyak yg suka (ama bentuknya), cuman gw pribadi malah kurang in, soalnya gw lebh prefer elegan ketimbang sporti...
cuman nih mobil gara2 krisis, launchingnya diundur jd 2010-2011... :big_slap:
btw, cruze:
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itu console tengah dashboard optra bentuknya setengah lingkaran, persis kaya mercedes ML :D :D
vios aja udah paling bener. tadi ada orang di tol bawa optra, zig zag ga jelas, gua pk allnew, akhirnya lewat jg padahal gua tertib2 aja ga zig zag :D :D keki gitu orangnya haha

kalo bwa vios jangan lupa taro aqua botol gede di dashboard...kaya supir taksi ...:D :D
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nah .. kalo cruze keren tuh :D
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