All New X-Trail - PART 01

Segala mobil tipe SUV (2WD/4WD). (Cherokee, Terios, Rush, dll).

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compressor a/c global car kebanyakan model rotary daripada piston di compressor mobil lama or minibus2 model kijang dll yg sifatnya lebih universal.
compressor rotary ini konon dibuat lebih spesifik sesuai beban ke mesin.
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ya kalo rotari gampang dibikin variable displacement, jadi ga 100% kerjnya setiap kali kompresornya on..bisa variable tergantung kebutuhan pendinginan mesin
kok nissan ga pake merek2 umum kaya ND atau sanden yah? baru denger tuh calsonic, kl zexel sih pernah jg denger
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ZombiEE wrote:2-2 nya berdengung oom..malah menurut milis lebih parah calsonic..nah soal menyedot putaran mesin itu zexel lebih parah getarnya..heheheheheheh

ane jadi takut2 nih sama x-trail skg...ciak sim kua... :frm_bang_head:
sama dong ane punya juga berdengung.....nissan altima 02/03.....apalagi kalo fan nya diputer ke nomor 2 (makin kenceng putaran fan, makin kenceng dengung nya). Dibawa ke BERES, katanya gak papa.....ya udah dipake terus dah bbrp tahun gapapa sih.
Tapi ane gak berasa sih AC nya nyedot putaran mesin sehingga mesin jadi lebih boyo....getar juga kayaknya engga deh :mrgreen:
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iwang wrote:ya kalo rotari gampang dibikin variable displacement, jadi ga 100% kerjnya setiap kali kompresornya on..bisa variable tergantung kebutuhan pendinginan mesin
kok nissan ga pake merek2 umum kaya ND atau sanden yah? baru denger tuh calsonic, kl zexel sih pernah jg denger
Kalo ga salah sih itu merek jepun, Calsonic Kansel...
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iwang wrote:hmm zexel kaya ac panter kll ga salah zexel jg yeh?
mungkin variable displacement kompresor acnya, kaya mercedes2 yang rada baruan yah? bisa naik turun kinerja kompresornya sesuai dengan beban pendinginan
ya T31 masih baru aja :D :D ga getar...ntar tunggu aja CVTnya kalo ayan apa ga puyeng :e-think: :roll: hihih
Masalahnya yg T30 dari baru juga udah getar...:shrug:

Btw, T31 ane udah 1 taun umurnya om...:mrgreen: bukan baru dari showroom...:e-naughty:
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:D :D hehe wah panter aja acnya ga getar dari barunya...tapi satu mobil yang getar :D :D
T31 second harganya bagus ga...?
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iwang wrote::D :D hehe wah panter aja acnya ga getar dari barunya...tapi satu mobil yang getar :D :D
T31 second harganya bagus ga...?
Kalo di panther mungkin udah kecampur ama getaran mesinnya kali...:mrgreen:

Harga second T31 kurang tau nih..soalnya masih jarang yg jual..:shrug:
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ZombiEE wrote:org sekampung sama bos hansen nih oom alvin..hehehehe...
Kampung mana tepatnya bos?
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kampung medan bos..hehehe....
@oom iwang: 8jt>waduh.... :frm_bang_head: :frm_shock: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head: :frm_bang_head:
@oom risol: iya nih..boyo sih ngak, cuman mesin macam mau stall kalo statsioner..tapi bntr saja...hikshiks...

@oom hansen: jadi kesimpulannya t31 ini gak ada penyakit dengung dan mau mati mesin yah oom?:)

calsonic kansei kae nya partner nya nissan...jadi kebykan part juga calsonic seperti remote kunci juga calsonic kansei..cmiiw..
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ZombiEE wrote: @oom hansen: jadi kesimpulannya t31 ini gak ada penyakit dengung dan mau mati mesin yah oom?:)

calsonic kansei kae nya partner nya nissan...jadi kebykan part juga calsonic seperti remote kunci juga calsonic kansei..cmiiw..
Kalo yg ane perhatiin kompressor T31 ini kerjanya tidak on..off..on..off seperti di T30...
Sekali AC dinyalakan kerja kompressornya continuous..ga pernah mati...walaupun ane setel thermostatnya sampe ke paling gak dingin...kompressor tetep nyala tapi suhu udara juga berubah...
Sepertinya dugaan ane sih T31 pake kompressor yg kerjanya bisa variable...jadi kerjanya bisa self-adjusting tergantung kebutuhan pendinginan.


Jadi ga ada cerita kompressor idup getar dengung bla...bla..bla...neh jom...:upss:
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ya itu yang dimaksud variable displacement..setau saya new eyes 97 udah begitu..ada rangenya persentasi kerja si kompresor, tergantung beban pendinginan yang diperlukan..
jadi engage terus tu kompresor, cuma loadnya aja bervariasi..teorinya sih malah lebih cepet rusak heheh :D :D
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ooo...berarti t31 bebas masalah ini yah..hhmmmm...:)..thanks..
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ZombiEE wrote:ooo...berarti t31 bebas masalah ini yah..hhmmmm...:)..thanks..
Jom...kenapa ente ga TD ajah? :e-think: :e-think: Bawa keliling ke binjai...:upss:
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dari TD ga bisa tau sen..harus pemakaian nih..,,,dgn umur mobil minimal 1 tahun keatas..jadi ketauan penyakit2 sialannya...
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bukannya di dealer kadang ada mobil khusus TD yg sudah jalan hinggan puluhan ribu KM?
mobil yg khusus TD kadang malah sering dipakai secara kasar oleh para pencobanya
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Saya lagi pikir mau beli xTrail yang type baru tapi mungkin yg bekas. Bapak2 yg sudah beli, bisa tolong kasih review bagus dan kurang bagus tentang xtrail baru. Saya pernah punya Xtrail yg lama. Tenaga cukup lumayan, tapi suspensi di kursi penumpang agak keras. Kalau yang type baru, ada keluhan apa, atau ada kelebihan apa.

Thanks ya sebelumnya.
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evolution21 wrote:bukannya di dealer kadang ada mobil khusus TD yg sudah jalan hinggan puluhan ribu KM?
mobil yg khusus TD kadang malah sering dipakai secara kasar oleh para pencobanya
bener juga yah... :e-think: tapi yg ane TD dulunya itu barusan launching..hehehehe..n temen ane beli baru ane lgsg TD.....
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Bos2 sekalian para pakar X-Trail, denger2 pada generasi T30 tipe 2.0 M/T suspensinya beda ama yg 2.5 A/T ya? Apakah benar? Konon yg 2.0 M/T suspensinya lebih keras? Mohon pencerahan.. :ungg: :thanks:
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iwang wrote:hmm zexel kaya ac panter kll ga salah zexel jg yeh?
mungkin variable displacement kompresor acnya, kaya mercedes2 yang rada baruan yah? bisa naik turun kinerja kompresornya sesuai dengan beban pendinginan
ya T31 masih baru aja :D :D ga getar...ntar tunggu aja CVTnya kalo ayan apa ga puyeng :e-think: :roll: hihih

Hallo semuanya, salam kenal.
Awal July kemarin baru ngambil New X-Trail ST 2.5
Ini pengalaman pertama dengan Nissan maupun dengan A/T
Saat ini sdh sekitar 800 KM
Warning bro Iwang tentang CVT ini membuat tidur agak kurang nyenyak karena kyknya banyak nada2 miring tentang CVT :(
Apakah selain Nissan, di Indo ada merek lain yang sdh pakai CVT. So far bgmn? Bnyk mslh?
Will appreciate kalau rekan2 bisa share tips Dos and Don'ts agar CVT bisa awet.

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baon wrote:
iwang wrote:hmm zexel kaya ac panter kll ga salah zexel jg yeh?
mungkin variable displacement kompresor acnya, kaya mercedes2 yang rada baruan yah? bisa naik turun kinerja kompresornya sesuai dengan beban pendinginan
ya T31 masih baru aja :D :D ga getar...ntar tunggu aja CVTnya kalo ayan apa ga puyeng :e-think: :roll: hihih

Apakah selain Nissan, di Indo ada merek lain yang sdh pakai CVT. So far bgmn? Bnyk mslh?
Will appreciate kalau rekan2 bisa share tips Dos and Don'ts agar CVT bisa awet.

thanks

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diluar suv, mobil populer yg pake A/T jenis CVT kalo gasalah jazz yg pertama, cmiiw
tapi sy ga tau apakah sistem cvt-nya sama dengan yg dipake di x-trail
kalo misalnya sama, sharingnya para pengguna jazz cvt bisa dijadikan acuan utk dos/don'ts :ungg:

kalo motor, semua skutik kayaknya pake cvt tuh :upss:
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imsus2c wrote:
baon wrote:
iwang wrote:hmm zexel kaya ac panter kll ga salah zexel jg yeh?
mungkin variable displacement kompresor acnya, kaya mercedes2 yang rada baruan yah? bisa naik turun kinerja kompresornya sesuai dengan beban pendinginan
ya T31 masih baru aja :D :D ga getar...ntar tunggu aja CVTnya kalo ayan apa ga puyeng :e-think: :roll: hihih

Apakah selain Nissan, di Indo ada merek lain yang sdh pakai CVT. So far bgmn? Bnyk mslh?
Will appreciate kalau rekan2 bisa share tips Dos and Don'ts agar CVT bisa awet.

thanks

baon
diluar suv, mobil populer yg pake A/T jenis CVT kalo gasalah jazz yg pertama, cmiiw
tapi sy ga tau apakah sistem cvt-nya sama dengan yg dipake di x-trail
kalo misalnya sama, sharingnya para pengguna jazz cvt bisa dijadikan acuan utk dos/don'ts :ungg:

kalo motor, semua skutik kayaknya pake cvt tuh :upss:

thanks bro!

Boleh share linknya para pengguna jazz cvt?

:thanks: :thanks:

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^^^ banyak pak, pakai aja fasilitas search baik di google maupun di serayamotor kita ini
ketik aja cvt trus klik enter/serach

beberapa postingan lama di serayamotor:
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... f=8&t=5704
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... hlight=cvt
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... +t+cvt+cvt
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... +t+cvt+cvt

mungkin pak mods GTR bisa kasih sharing disini :ungg: salah satu narasumber transmisi si Serayamotor
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imsus2c wrote:^^^ banyak pak, pakai aja fasilitas search baik di google maupun di serayamotor kita ini
ketik aja cvt trus klik enter/serach

beberapa postingan lama di serayamotor:
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... f=8&t=5704
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... hlight=cvt
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... +t+cvt+cvt
http://www.serayamotor.com/diskusi/view ... +t+cvt+cvt
wah hasil compile dari pak imsus, bisa jadi sumber yg termasuk lengkap... :thanks:
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alvin_kiak wrote:Bos2 sekalian para pakar X-Trail, denger2 pada generasi T30 tipe 2.0 M/T suspensinya beda ama yg 2.5 A/T ya? Apakah benar? Konon yg 2.0 M/T suspensinya lebih keras? Mohon pencerahan.. :ungg: :thanks:
Nambah lg pertanyaan gw : T30 2.5 ST vs T30 2.5 XT bedanya apa aja ya selain roof lamp n panel kayu?
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alvin_kiak wrote:
Nambah lg pertanyaan gw : T30 2.5 ST vs T30 2.5 XT bedanya apa aja ya selain roof lamp n panel kayu?
Beda di jok kulit, jet washer, head unit....:upss:
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